Libertarian Gary Johnson in double digits in race against Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump: poll

[afwjam]

I voted for Johnson in 2012, will do it again. I think I might have been right about the timing being good for a coalition this election, Gary Johnson post easily made the front page on Reddit today.

 

[Champ]

I think it would be wise to get Gary Johnson or whoever the Libertarian candidate ends up being, that needed 15% to be included in the debates. Even if you disagree with these guys, we need to start unraveling the Demo/Repub duopoly on the system, especially the election process, which they have full and 100% control of.

Granted, Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul, but he is no Clinton/Trump either. This isn't voting a lesser of 2 or 3 evils, this is giving legitimacy to 3rd/4th/5th party candidates. These numbers are encouraging enough to see a non-establishment person actually have a chance to make it into the debates.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

in what number base? :o

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

What are the two digits, zero and one?

lol, i just made the same joke reading this

 

[hells_unicorn]

Well said. I, too, do not understand the Gary Johnson hate here. I voted for Johnson in 2012, and will likely do so again.

Don't hate him, though I will not be voting for him again, I held my nose once for someone who supports infanticide, that's quite enough for me. Maybe the Constitution Party will offer up something sensible, we shall have to see.

 

[ghostofbort]

I wonder if he'll be included in the debates?

I assume that was meant to have quote marks to indicate sarcasm. Highly doubtful (as in "no chance").

 

[ghostofbort]

I doubt there's much hope that TPTB will allow a 3 person debate with a LP candidate, but I guess a ruckus could be raised if he were to continue polling highly

Or the rules will be changed to exclude him with the usual "it's a private organization so they can make their own rules" excuse. This kind of stuff needs to be exposed anyway though so even if they do change the rules, it'll be a good thing. Basically we need as much shenanigans exposed as possible. That's why I hope Trump does well but they still deny him the nomination.

 

[klamath]

I don't like GJ abortion stand but considering that Trump and Hillary are hardcore abortionist despite what trumps says now to suit his "Flexibility". I could enthusiastically support GJ.
In 40 years of politics I have never seen as much visceral dislike of the likely R nominee, ever by republicans I know. I know I have a far higher dislike of Trump than I had for Romney and McCain and I didn't vote for either of them. I might even donate to him to GJ.

 

[RJ Liberty]

Or the rules will be changed to exclude him with the usual "it's a private organization so they can make their own rules" excuse.

That is what will happen. The GOP and Democratic parties have set the rules about debates. They work closely with the media. If the media says a candidate must be polling at at least 10%, they will choose which polls to make certain that a third party can't get in. The polls selected will not be revealed until a third party candidate fails to make the 10% in the rigged poll. It's a shell game, and it's been happening regularly since 1996 (second Perot campaign, when Perot was excluded from the debates).

 

[RJ Liberty]

Don't hate him, though I will not be voting for him again, I held my nose once for someone who supports infanticide, that's quite enough for me. Maybe the Constitution Party will offer up something sensible, we shall have to see.

The CP ran Virgil Goode in 2012; Goode voted to authorize the Iraq War and supported the so called "PATRIOT" Act. Goode has already endorsed Drumpf. Let's hope the CP comes to their senses this time around.

 

[hells_unicorn]

The CP ran Virgil Goode in 2012; Goode voted to authorize the Iraq War and supported the so called "PATRIOT" Act. Goode has already endorsed Drumpf. Let's hope the CP comes to their senses this time around.

Hence why I voted for Johnson in 2012, I made a decision that time around that tolerating infanticide was a lesser offense than promoting genocide and tyranny, and in retrospect I think the proper course of action may have been to just abstain from voting altogether as both stances are equally repugnant, which I plan to do this time around if someone similar to Goode is selected.

 

[idiom]

Hence why I voted for Johnson in 2012, I made a decision that time around that tolerating infanticide was a lesser offense than promoting genocide and tyranny, and in retrospect I think the proper course of action may have been to just abstain from voting altogether as both stances are equally repugnant, which I plan to do this time around if someone similar to Goode is selected.

Infanticide is the de facto Libertarian position, up until age 5.

 

[otherone]

Infanticide is the de facto Libertarian position, up until age 5.

"Infanticide" is a euphemism for "strawmanicide".

 

[afwjam]

 

[trey4sports]

GJ doesn't have the charisma or charm to make prime-time. I really like him but we have a fusion of president and celebrity and he doesn't really fit the mold.

 

[alucard13mm]

GJ doesn't have the charisma or charm to make prime-time. I really like him but we have a fusion of president and celebrity and he doesn't really fit the mold.

He does this weird twitching thing as well when he talks heheh. Voters fixate on everything these days hehe.

 

[Snowball]

Gary Johnson is a clown. I saw him on MSNBC a couple days ago, what he made
clearest is that he's "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal". Johnson supports
total amnesty and open borders. He somehow believes open borders and unmanaged
"free" trade is complimentary to small government. Nothing could be further from the
truth. The welfare state is getting bigger and bigger. Amnesty for 11-30 million illegals
and open borders for untold millions more will only expand welfare dependency.
Thusly, his position is untenable and moronic.
I also cannot support him on moral issues, you know what those are.

 

[Thor]

Gary Johnson is a clown. I saw him on MSNBC a couple days ago, what he made
clearest is that he's "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal". Johnson supports
total amnesty and open borders. He somehow believes open borders and unmanaged
"free" trade is complimentary to small government. Nothing could be further from the
truth. The welfare state is getting bigger and bigger. Amnesty for 11-30 million illegals
and open borders for untold millions more will only expand welfare dependency.
Thusly, his position is untenable and moronic.
I also cannot support him on moral issues, you know what those are.

Going hand in hand with open borders is eliminating the welfare state. Understand the big picture before calling someone a clown and moronic. Of course open borders and amnesty for all would lead to massive financial ruin if we continued with the welfare of today. Duh....

 

[acptulsa]

And of course if this happens and Hillary wins the idiots in the GOP will blame the LP for their loss rather than the fact that they picked a crappy candidate.

Naturally. And the media will, too. But regardless of all that, it will still be a third GOP loss--in a cycle they should have won. It will still be pitiful results by a gang that could have found a way to keep their peeps at home.

And that will only make them less attractive, and the LP more attractive.

 

[Origanalist]

"Infanticide" is a euphemism for "strawmanicide".

50 million dead babies agree.