Leave the Party Now!!!

[nate895]

They have just demonstrated their lack of concern for fairness. They just made a nomination unanimous when it was not for the first time in Party history, and I believe United States history. Once upon a time, that convention hall would be burning. They will not accept us. They will deny us entry. They will refuse to announce our votes. They will nominate other candidates. They will rig the vote. They will do ANYTHING to get you to shut up and your voices quieted. We don't have the time to change their leadership, for they won't even let us vote on it. We would have to wait years until they died before they'd even let us have the chance. Trying to take this party will be like trying to take over the Communist Party of China.

 

[Mahkato]

The party is a vehicle. It goes where it is driven. If you let other people drive, you will not like where it goes.

Stay in the GOP and change it FROM THE BOTTOM UP. You need to actually get involved in your LOCAL party, make friends, and win leadership positions. The neocons took decades to achieve this much power in the GOP; don't think that you can get it back in a single year. And don't delude yourself into thinking that leaving the neocons in the driver's seat of a major political party is somehow okay.

 

[nate895]

The party is a vehicle. It goes where it is driven. If you let other people drive, you will not like where it goes.

Stay in the GOP and change it FROM THE BOTTOM UP. You need to actually get involved in your LOCAL party, make friends, and win leadership positions. The neocons took decades to achieve this much power in the GOP; don't think that you can get it back in a single year. And don't delude yourself into thinking that leaving the neocons in the driver's seat of a major political party is somehow okay.

Well, the driver is surrounded by a bunch of goons. I have been involved locally. They shut us down, everytime. It would be easier to win by getting out and assembling our own vehicle.

 

[hopeforamerica]

The party is a vehicle. It goes where it is driven. If you let other people drive, you will not like where it goes.

Stay in the GOP and change it FROM THE BOTTOM UP. You need to actually get involved in your LOCAL party, make friends, and win leadership positions. The neocons took decades to achieve this much power in the GOP; don't think that you can get it back in a single year. And don't delude yourself into thinking that leaving the neocons in the driver's seat of a major political party is somehow okay.

Awesome post! In my little corner in AZ we had a minor victory today. We had a State Rep win his primary. He is a fairly solid Ron Paul type, and we have recruited many PC's to start getting things back on track.

Thanks for your wisdom. I wish more people could see it like this.

 

[nate895]

Awesome post! In my little corner in AZ we had a minor victory today. We had a State Rep win his primary. He is a fairly solid Ron Paul type, and we have recruited many PC's to start getting things back on track.

Thanks for your wisdom. I wish more people could see it like this.

Did he come from Ron Paul's ranks, or was he just an opportunist like the bozos that represent me.

 

[hopeforamerica]

Did he come from Ron Paul's ranks, or was he just an opportunist like the bozos that represent me.

Neither. The guy has been a Republican for a long time, he just happens to agree with Ron Paul. Believe it or not, there are a few of them out there

 

[cswake]

Well, the driver is surrounded by a bunch of goons. I have been involved locally. They shut us down, everytime. It would be easier to win by getting out and assembling our own vehicle.

Look at the Libertarian Party. They've been driving for decades are now being filled with Neocons.

 

[nate895]

Neither. The guy has been a Republican for a long time, he just happens to agree with Ron Paul. Believe it or not, there are a few of them out there

Does he promote his agenda? Mine are longtime, and I do mean longtime, GOPers who sound great, and even told me in person they liked Ron Paul. They go to the legislature and merely vote in a slightly conservative way. They do not act to see REAL ID stopped, they just occasionally vote "No" on a budget bill that's too overblown. They do not ask for nullification of the PATRIOT ACT, they simply vote against bills that would see animals regulated.

 

[nate895]

Look at the Libertarian Party. They've been driving for decades are now being filled with Neocons.

Form a new party, the other third parties are already tarnished. Unite the Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Reformers, and conservatives of all stripes.

 

[Rangeley]

My reaction isnt to give up and leave the party - after seing such a despicable thing unfold on live television, I am determined more then ever to stay involved and remove these people from power.

 

[libertythor]

One can be a registered Republican AND participate in Libertarian conventions! Ron Paul is an LP member and a Republican.

I will not give up.

 

[Dequeant]

We would have to wait years until they died before they'd even let us have the chance

I vote we help hurry their deaths along, all in favor say "OH SHIT WE'RE GOING TO JAIL!"

 

[hopeforamerica]

Does he promote his agenda? Mine are longtime, and I do mean longtime, GOPers who sound great, and even told me in person they liked Ron Paul. They go to the legislature and merely vote in a slightly conservative way. They do not act to see REAL ID stopped, they just occasionally vote "No" on a budget bill that's too overblown. They do not ask for nullification of the PATRIOT ACT, they simply vote against bills that would see animals regulated.

Time will have to tell when he starts voting (He is new). However, I do think our group will have a huge impact on how he votes. He is a good guy, that listens to us and we will hold him accountable for how he votes. This is the job of a PC, and we have had one guy change his vote on the NAU after listening to what we had to say. I'm not saying we've made huge progress, but we are chipping away at it. The bottom line is that the neocons would just love it if we went away. Ha! Not a chance in hell. I plan on being a thorn in their side as long as I can.

 

[nate895]

One can be a registered Republican AND participate in Libertarian conventions! Ron Paul is an LP member and a Republican.

I will not give up.

Well, I am going to focus on the third party effort, and not in the LP. The LP's name has been tarnished by perennially losing with horribly cheesy commercials, and nearly nominating a pot smoker (I don't care what his illness) for VP.

 

[jbuttell]

I see no reason for most people here to stay in the GOP. I've been registered independent/libertarian since I was first able to vote - and just registered Republican to vote for Ron Paul.

At this very moment, what good does it serve me or the country to be counted in the statistics of the Republican Party? Unless I'm going to run for office, why should I stay a Republican?

I'd much rather help show the GOP how much they're in for a major defeat by leaving the party that doesn't represent me at all.

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

My reaction isnt to give up and leave the party - after seing such a despicable thing unfold on live television, I am determined more then ever to stay involved and remove these people from power.

This.

Would it be right to turn our backs on these poor souls who are so strongly held by the chains of darkness and ignorance?

Everyone should remember that our bulk (no proof here, just assumption) comes from former neocons, diehard republicans and/or democrats, advocates of big government, soldiers of the drug war, or *insert any anti-ron paul philosophy*.

Three years ago I would've hated you all with a passion and cringed at the thought of my future self being anything but a GWB sympathizer.

 

[raiha]

Chipping away at the neocon machine strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. For a start chipping involves something living as opposed to a machine. I don't think the bloatocracy will ever yield.
Good luck people with your chipping. I call it denial!

 

[RoamZero]

Unless I'm going to run for office, why should I stay a Republican?

Do more than vote, plan to become a delegate or try to go for a chairmen position for 2012.

Chipping away at the neocon machine strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. For a start chipping involves something living as opposed to a machine. I don't think the bloatocracy will ever yield.
Good luck people with your chipping. I call it denial!

And the alternative is? Third parties are an even bigger denial if you ask me. The masses won't suddenly "wake up" and do the right thing. Hope all you want but the way things are set up there can only be two shepards for the sheople.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Chipping away at the neocon machine strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. For a start chipping involves something living as opposed to a machine. I don't think the bloatocracy will ever yield.
Good luck people with your chipping. I call it denial!

One thing is for sure, quitting, will certainly not yield anything.

 

[raiha]

Who said anything about giving up?