Leave the Party Now!!!

Ron Paul is a Republican. So am I. He's voted the constitution, and against the party line, for decades. Our voice in the party is needed now more than ever. Do not be bullied, do not be thwarted.

If you quit the party now, you're just playing into their hands. It's much easier for them to marginalize you if you're outside the party than if you bear the same name.

Remember, we are the Real Republicans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXE7Q_fIZkE
 
Feenix566 said:
I'm staying in the Republican party. I'm voting for Barr. Believe it or not, you're allowed to do that.
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That's understandable, and perfectly valid. However, (IMO) staying in the party is equivalent to being an enabler. The only message the GOP cares to listen to is when people just leave. They have a propaganda/media machine designed to quiet dissent, you see. (again, just MHO based on observation)
 
I say stay in ....but maybe we should show them that they messed up. It obvious that we are not gonna vote Mccain, so lets make it very clear.

Start a group like this and piss them off.
REPUBLICANS for BOB BARR?
REPUBLICANS for BALDWIN?
If bumper stickers and signs were to appear nationwide showing that the republicans support another candidate besides their own....what would happen?

They might not be the best but they are way better than MCBAMA!
 
Madsci30 said:
I say stay in ....but maybe we should show them that they messed up. It obvious that we are not gonna vote Mccain, so lets make it very clear.

Start a group like this and piss them off.
REPUBLICANS for BOB BARR?
REPUBLICANS for BALDWIN?
If bumper stickers and signs were to appear nationwide showing that the republicans support another candidate besides their own....what would happen?

They might not be the best but they are way better than MCBAMA!
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+1

I think "Real Republicans" could get some folks attention, too.
 
The Ron Paul movement is now and will big time be infiltrated and destroyed like all other third parties. The &^% er's morph and shape shift into every group of dissenters. face the facts. the tree of liberty is dried up and the top is wilted.

They are hoping you keep on keeping on and plan for 2012.....NOT!! There will not be a 2012 because this last bunch will finish the nau off in less than 24 months.

Sorry folks it is over and now lets move back out of the way and let GOD do what has to be done. This country deserves his wrath but I am so sorry that a bunch of good people will also be caught up in GODS blades. For those of you that don't believe that GOD sees and he is pissed, this ones for you. You wonder about the Hurricanes and earthquakes.....take a look........

Global warming my arse......it's Global judgement. O and McSame and DC will not skate on this one. Somehow it is such a good feeling knowing they will get theirs.


http://www.propheticwatchmanvine.com/watch13.htm

http://www.propheticwatchmanvine.com/map.htm
 
georgiaboy said:
Ron Paul is a Republican. So am I. He's voted the constitution, and against the party line, for decades. Our voice in the party is needed now more than ever. Do not be bullied, do not be thwarted.

If you quit the party now, you're just playing into their hands. It's much easier for them to marginalize you if you're outside the party than if you bear the same name.

Remember, we are the Real Republicans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXE7Q_fIZkE
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Sorry mate,

Ron Paul is a Republican due to convenience.

There is no love lost between the two.

Stop bullshitting.
 
After a couple of glasses of red, Ron Paul would prefer the conservation of Kucinich...

No matter their differences.
 
jonathan kovaciny said:
the party is a vehicle. It goes where it is driven. If you let other people drive, you will not like where it goes.

Stay in the gop and change it from the bottom up. You need to actually get involved in your local party, make friends, and win leadership positions. The neocons took decades to achieve this much power in the gop; don't think that you can get it back in a single year. And don't delude yourself into thinking that leaving the neocons in the driver's seat of a major political party is somehow okay.
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+1776
 
Leaving is exactly what 'they' want us to do. Staying and working for change from the inside is what Ron Paul wants us to do. RP learned the hard way back in 1988 how the deck is impossibly stacked against third parties. Just because you're registered as a Republican doesn't mean that you have to actually vote for neocons or socialists. Ever since I was first able to vote, I've always been registered as "Libertarian" or "other" or "independent" (depending on which state I was living in at the time). Upon joining the Republican party for the first time for RP's 2008 run, and supporting him openly, my "conservative credentials" were of course challenged / questioned by some of the neocons within the local party - my response was always that "I've never ever voted for a liberal in my entire life", which was of course the complete truth, and seemed to be good enough for them. The Republican party is still now at the weakest point it's been in a long time. We need to concentrate now on getting our people in for the midterm elections (as well as getting our people who made the 2008 ballot in), and educating those in your local party that following the Constitution is the most conservative position to possibly have: the key to success here is to bring them to realize on their own that you are actually more conservative than they are, when that happens, they will stop and think for a while, and eventually come around. Arguing and attacking isn't the way to do it. Finding out what issues you agree on and building from there is key. I'm staying - I didn't come this far and do all this hard work for nothing.
 
heavenlyboy34 said:
That's understandable, and perfectly valid. However, (IMO) staying in the party is equivalent to being an enabler. The only message the GOP cares to listen to is when people just leave. They have a propaganda/media machine designed to quiet dissent, you see. (again, just MHO based on observation)
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It doesn't do any good to leave now, we just got there. We'll get a lot of "Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out".

We are the rookies in the Republican league, a championship wasn't a realistic goal on the first try. What you do now is wait until next year's off-year conventions when no one cares anymore. Bring all your friends that you can beg, plead, or bribe along to the local conventions, and get elected as delegates to the state level. Then you vote out the corrupt party machines that thwarted us this time around and replace them with Ron Paul-friendly types. Then next time around we'll be playing on a level playing field. In a few years it will be us that can have the coronation and ignore/expel our opponents. (Of course we wouldn't ignore procedures like they do; we're the good guys. But it's fun to imagine.)
 
Mine is an Australian experience.(I lived in America for 17 years.)

I had a 14 acre property running a successful plant nursery for 15 years.

Dogs, horses, goats, chooks. pretty much self-sufficient.

One day I got a knock on my door from the Power Company informing me that they were going to build a power plant on Crown land with 80 metre transformers and generators imported from Denmark to supply the energy requirements of 200,000 people.

Next door to my environment.

I united my neighbors, organized meetings, started writing, researching, map reading, and being a total wanker.

Learned how not to be intimidated by public speaking, and confront the multi-levels of bearocracy.

To make a 18 month journey short, my neighbors and I got a fair result which involved substantial monies. Not bad.

I encourage others to put their toe in the water.

It feels good.
 
Ozwest said:
Libertarians will never win general elections.

Voters are generally apathetic and prone to false promises.

Grass roots is where to start. Sound management which produces results for communities.
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this thread is about leaving the republican party. the C4L is about engaging the republican party at the grassroots level producing results for communities.

Your tripe about Libertarians not winning elections is the same stuff we have come to expect from you.

It was so great meeting up with the other non-wall flowers this week, sadly I am back to dealing with the full of shit contingent again.
 
ARealConservative said:
this thread is about leaving the republican party. the C4L is about engaging the republican party at the grassroots level producing results for communities.

Your tripe about Libertarians not winning elections is the same stuff we have come to expect from you.

It was so great meeting up with the other non-wall flowers this week, sadly I am back to dealing with the full of shit contingent again.
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I must apologize.

It is important to remain focused.

John McCain is my hero.
 
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