Ken Buck leading organization to oppose marijuana legalization in Colorado.

[ninepointfive]

His wife Perry Buck is a candidate for some office. forget which one

 

[DamianTV]

Big Pharma is at it again.

 

[angelatc]

This comes as no surprise. He is a DeMint Republican - extremely socially conservative, but good on a number of other issues.

Tom Tancredo on the other hand SUPPORTS marijuana legalization! and we're +10 right now!

Isn't Tancredo a hawk, though?

 

[wrestlingwes_8]

He supports a state's right to choose it's drug policy under the 10th amendment. He doesn't want his state to legalize pot, but he respects other state's rights to do it if they do wish.

A.K.A. - He doesn't support a person's freedom to do whatever he wants with his body as long as he doesn't harm anyone else. So yeah go ahead, keep pretending this guy is a defender of freedom

 

[Keith and stuff]

A.K.A. - He doesn't support a person's freedom to do whatever he wants with his body as long as he doesn't harm anyone else. So yeah go ahead, keep pretending this guy is a defender of freedom

Isn't Rand Paul opposed to legalizing marijuana. I'm not sure but I heard he was even opposed to medical marijuana and decrim. Some liberty people don't understand the concepts or do but like to go along with party leaders to get along.

 

[wrestlingwes_8]

Isn't Rand Paul opposed to legalizing marijuana. I'm not sure but I heard he was even opposed to medical marijuana and decrim. Some liberty people don't understand the concepts or do but like to go along with party leaders to get along.

Not sure. Voting for sanctions and endorsing Mittens are enough for me to not count him as a defender of liberty either. Though, he did do well with his last vote to not continue war-like aggressions against Iran

 

[Shane Harris]

if it passes then it will be more trouble than its worth for the feds to fight it, imo. it is more manageable for them to fight medical marijuana because it is easier to pinpoint. they wouldn't even be able to begin fighting back with this amendment, because the ramifications will be so far spread and people will fight back against them legally. they can't afford it.

 

[youngbuck]

Arresting federal agents.

I would quit school and my related career and become a cop just to do that.

 

[LudwigVonMisoSoup]

To me, this issue defines whether you're a true liberty candidate or not. Do you believe it is fundamentally wrong to use state force to cage non-violent marijuana/drug users in prison or not? If he's doing it for money, that makes Ken Buck a political opportunist. It also calls into question whether Buck was trying to ride the liberty coattails of Ron Paul/Tea Party to get into the senate. This is a cautionary tale to vet which candidates to support. Reminds me all too much of Bob Barr. Too many statists in sheep's clothing.

 

[Sola_Fide]

i don't see how a person can call themself a christian, and then go on to innitiate violence against their neighbor because of what they see as sinful behavior.
is this what christianity become? a lynch mob to use government violence against sin? doesn't sound like something jesus would do... but oh well, jesus is just a word that is used to fill the coffers.

Why do you assume that every Christian who is involved politically supports government force like that? It doesn't seem right to me for you to make those kind of generalizations. For every Christian who supports intervention, I can show you one who is fighting intervention. Take Back Kentucky is full of Christians and they are about as non-interventionist as you can get for a politically active organization. Again, this is just my experience...

 

[torchbearer]

Why do you assume that every Christian who is involved politically supports government force like that? ...

i don't assume every christian who is involved politically support force. that is why i asked:

why can't the christians who understand the violence involved in this matter reach out to their christian brothers who don't see it and ask them to stop the madness in a direct and meaningful manner? this is not cool.

in post number 14.

 

[ninepointfive]

I would quit school and my related career and become a cop just to do that.

Run for Sheriff, and yes - you can arrest federal agents if you and your deputies have got the balls to do it.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

SIMPLY: 10th Amendment should trump No Amendment


They had an amendment to ban alcohol... if they want to ban MJ, then, they can get the states to ratify one... until then, 10th Amendment SHOULD overule.

 

[The Free Hornet]

He supports a state's right to choose it's drug policy under the 10th amendment. He doesn't want his state to legalize pot, but he respects other state's rights to do it if they do wish.

Then fuck him. Clearly Ken Buck is not a liberty candidate by any stretch of the imagination. He is actively supporting prohibition which is different from supporting someone's right to pursue those policies in their jurisdiction. There is no freedom or political philosophy by which people are free from judgement, only that they are free from outside forces interfering. The hell with Ken Buck.

Also, I doubt that Ken Buck supports states' rights. It is clear he doesn't give a fuck about individual rights, but his organization "Colorado Smart" has urged additional Fed intervention into states like California:

The Smart Colorado letter to Holder:

May 11, 2012

The Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General of the United States
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Re: Colorado Legalization of Marijuana Initiative

Dear Mr. Attorney General:

...

We commend the Department of Justice public opposition to California’s Proposition 19. As you stated in an October 13, 2010 memorandum to DEA Administrators: “Let me state clearly that the Department of Justice strongly opposes Proposition 19. If passed, this legislation will greatly complicate federal drug enforcement efforts to the detriment of our citizens”. In November 2010 you also noted that if California voters were to approve Proposition 19, the Department of Justice would “vigorously enforce the CSA against those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture, or distribute marijuana for recreational use, even if such activities are permitted under state law.”

http://coloradoindependent.com/1221...legalization-group-asks-ag-holder-for-support

Seriously, fuck this guy.

 

[AFPVet]

aren't the social conservative the christian right? why can't the christians who understand the violence involved in this matter reach out to their christian brothers who don't see it and ask them to stop the madness in a direct and meaningful manner? this is not cool.

I try to man... some people are just sheep. I also point out that God said that every seed bearing plant (cannabis) shall be food for you. There are also other references to cannabis being used in biblical times. I hope there are other Christians who are trying to get through the sheep. It's the generations of propaganda and false teachings which are largely responsible.

 

[DeMintConservative]

aren't the social conservative the christian right? why can't the christians who understand the violence involved in this matter reach out to their christian brothers who don't see it and ask them to stop the madness in a direct and meaningful manner? this is not cool.

I think the question could and should also be directed towards non-Christians, irreligious and atheists.

In fact, that should be your priority: they tend to vote for anti-liberty policies and candidates in a much higher proportion and it's not even close. Check the exit polls for guys like Rand Paul and the other guys named "liberty candidates" in this forum.


And no, social conservatives aren't the christian right. Even though I'm not really sure what the Christian right is. Just a liberal talking point with no substance.

 

[DeMintConservative]

I don't agree with the prohibition of this kind of recreational drug, but people who don't believe states have the right to prohibit them are much more dangerous to the cause of liberty than Ken Buck and it's not even close. They're "useful idiots" (not a personal offense, no insult meant, just the political term from the cold war era).

 

[Jumbo Shrimp]

I don't agree with the prohibition of this kind of recreational drug, but people who don't believe states have the right to prohibit them are much more dangerous to the cause of liberty than Ken Buck and it's not even close. They're "useful idiots" (not a personal offense, no insult meant, just the political term from the cold war era).

+rep

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

He supports a state's right to choose it's drug policy under the 10th amendment. He doesn't want his state to legalize pot, but he respects other state's rights to do it if they do wish.

And that actually hurts his position, but he has the principle to stand by that.

 

[Brett85]

I can vote for someone like Ken Buck who I disagree with on this issue, but it does seem strange that he's actually focusing so much on this issue and becoming an advocate on this issue. I can understand people opposing marijuana legalization, but to be so strongly opposed to it that you would spend all your time and money opposing it seems really strange to me. I haven't met very many people who have marijuana prohibition as one of their top issues.