Joe Rogan : "You gotta get scared that people who are not criminals are being set to El Salvador prisons."

[acptulsa]

Tell it to Rand, and everyone else who isn't fantasizing or weasel wording.
That's exactly what is being demanded, and they are already getting everything they could but that.

I don't take your word for what Rand Paul wants. These things happen when you tell baldfaced lies about what I want every blessed morning.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't take your word for what Rand Paul wants. These things happen when you tell baldfaced lies about what I want every blessed morning.

Fortunately I posted the article to you, but you are pretending to have forgotten, just like you pretend it's not what you are demanding.


Appearing with professional narrative engineer Margaret Brennan, Senator Rand Paul discusses his DC perspective on the need to protect criminal aliens from excessive deportation action.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/24/sunday-talks-rand-paul-discusses-deportation

Sunday Talks - Rand Paul Discusses Deportation Conflict with Constitutional Protection - The Last Refuge

Appearing with professional narrative engineer Margaret Brennan, Senator Rand Paul discusses his DC perspective on the need to protect criminal aliens from excessive deportation action. Senator Paul agrees with Mrs Brennan that all persons, including illegal alien entrants into the United...

theconservativetreehouse.com

SEN. PAUL: So no, I- well, I think you’re answering for me. I think there is going to be some process afforded by the courts for representation before you’re deported in most cases.

 

[acptulsa]

The Treehouse lied in their spun headline, and as usual, desperate to think ill of and libel and slander Ron and Rand, you bit the bait and the hook.

SEN. PAUL: I think the courts will rule that there has to be some process. I don’t think you are going to be able to deport people–

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, yes, you are comfortable with it?

SEN. PAUL: So no, I- well, I think you’re answering for me. I think there is going to be some process afforded by the courts for representation before you’re deported in most cases. I don’t know about the ones under the Alien and Enemies Act, and I’m not sure anybody knows that. And while I love constitutional law, I’m not a constitutional lawyer.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

SEN. PAUL: I do think it goes to the Supreme Court. And there are arguments to be made on both sides of this question.

He thinks there will be some. He never even said if he thinks it's good or bad.

It's hilarious in a pitiful sort of way that you accuse people of not reading, or not being able to read, then point to the world's most misleading alt-right-MSM headlines.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The Treehouse lied in their spun headline, and as usual, desperate to think ill of and libel and slander Ron and Rand, you bit the bait and the hook.

SEN. PAUL: I think the courts will rule that there has to be some process. I don’t think you are going to be able to deport people–

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, yes, you are comfortable with it?

SEN. PAUL: So no, I- well, I think you’re answering for me. I think there is going to be some process afforded by the courts for representation before you’re deported in most cases. I don’t know about the ones under the Alien and Enemies Act, and I’m not sure anybody knows that. And while I love constitutional law, I’m not a constitutional lawyer.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

SEN. PAUL: I do think it goes to the Supreme Court. And there are arguments to be made on both sides of this question.

He thinks there will be some. He never even said if he thinks it's good or bad.

It's hilarious in a pitiful sort of way that you accuse people of not reading, or not being able to read, then point to the world's most misleading alt-right-MSM headlines.

You failed at reading again: process afforded by the courts for representation before you’re deported

And earlier he claims (laughably) that the Alien Enemies Act is unconstitutional and should be overturned, he just isn't sure if it will be.

He wants representation in COURT before deportations even though we have tens of millions of invaders just from Biden stacked on top of the tens of millions already here.

And he makes it clear he's advocating for it.

 

[Swordsmyth]

SEN. PAUL: So we have a contradiction. We basically have the Constitution that says everyone, persons in the United States have due process rights, have the Bill of Rights on their side, but we also have law that has been in power for 200 years saying, oh, well, except for when the president wants to deport people. So these are in conflict.

 

[acptulsa]

You failed at reading again: process afforded by the courts for representation before you’re deported

You failed at reading, chump. He didn't call for it. He said he believes it's already there, built in. He's saying it's existential in your buddy Trump's own plan.

Try again, you're still flunking.

It frankly scares me that you're even easier to brainwash and manipulate than liberals are.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You failed at reading, chump. He didn't call for it. He said he believes it's already there, built in. He's saying it's existential in your buddy Trump's own plan.

Try again, you're still flunking.

It frankly scares me that you're even easier to brainwash and manipulate than liberals are.

He is calling for his false interpretation of the Constitution to be followed, or are you arguing that he doesn't want the Constitution (as he sees it or claims to) followed?

Your gaslighting is getting weaker.

 

[acptulsa]

He is calling for...

... nothing, in the part we both quoted (me with context, you without). He's just saying what he thinks is the policy and what the courts may well examine. You and the Treehouse are using that to try to read his mind and judge his loyalty to Trump from that, and since he didn't give you enough data, you and the Treehouse are doing what you both do best: Making asses of yourselves.

The Alt-Right Division of the MSM is on an active campaign against Paul and Massie. And you're insane enough to think, one, we will swallow it without giving it any more critical an examination than you do, and two, that we will appreciate you for it. Get a grip. You've lost it.

 

[familydog]

No citizen has been deported. Citizens are the highest order of status in society. If you're a legal non-citizen, you are here at the pleasure of your host. When the host revokes your status, you have no legal light to be here, thus no legal right to Constitutional protections. If you don't like that arrangement, then go somewhere else where they will treat you worse.

It's unproven beyond intimations and allegations that any "innocent" legal/illegal persons here have been deported unlawfully or unethically. And frankly, even if they were, I don't care. If you are not a citizen, you have no legal right to be here.

 

[Swordsmyth]

... nothing, in the part we both quoted (me with context, you without). He's just saying what he thinks is the policy and what the courts may well examine. You and the Treehouse are using that to try to read his mind and judge his loyalty to Trump from that, and since he didn't give you enough data, you and the Treehouse are doing what you both do best: Making asses of yourselves.

The Alt-Right Division of the MSM is on an active campaign against Paul and Massie. And you're insane enough to think, one, we will swallow it without giving it any more critical an examination than you do, and two, that we will appreciate you for it. Get a grip. You've lost it.

Sure, Rand says something is Constitutional or unconstitutional but he isn't demanding that the Constitution (according to him) be followed.

Makes sense.
You will literally say anything to cover for the agenda to keep the invaders here by giving each of the tens of millions of them individual court hearings for years.

 

[acptulsa]

No citizen has been deported.

You can't guarantee that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You can't guarantee that.

The burden of proof is on you.

 

[acptulsa]

Sure, Rand says something is Constitutional or unconstitutional but he isn't demanding that the Constitution (according to him) be followed.

He talked about the Bill of Rights. What specifically does the Bill of Rights say about deportation?

 

[acptulsa]

The burden of proof is on you.

The burden of proof is on the person who makes the guarantee, jackass.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The burden of proof is on the person who makes the guarantee, jackass.

No, it is on the person making the charge in the absence of any evidence.
Until you prove otherwise we have no knowledge of any citizens being deported.
The statement that none have been deported is presumed true until someone makes a credible claim with evidence that it is not.

 

[Swordsmyth]

"Trump is training flying pigs to attack people"

"There are no flying pigs"

"Prove it"

On which side is the burden of proof?

Aside from what was already explained, the burden of proof is always on the positive claim because it is impossible to absolutely prove a negative.

 

[acptulsa]

No, it is on the person making the charge in the absence of any evidence.

Yeah. Like when he flatly said that absolutely no citizen has been deported.

Having fun arguing in favor of my point?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah. Like when he flatly said that absolutely no citizen has been deported.

No, like when it was claimed they had been, would be, or might be.

He only stated the obvious assumption that none had been, that's not a charge, claiming citizens have been deported is a charge.
I don't have to prove flying pigs don't exist either, anyone who wants to dispute my statement that they do not is required to prove they do.

 

[acptulsa]

No

Yes.

Child.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes.

Child.

LOL

Pathetic.

Prove that flying pigs exist or shut up.