Islamic State fighters: "We will drown all of you in blood.''

So go do it, you bunch of murderous bastards. And pay for it out of your own pockets....and if there is a hell, expect to rot in it.
Hoping that someone rots in hell for all eternity is a lot worse than wanting to kill people. There's no excuse whatsoever for that comment.

Try as I might, I do not see where Amy expressed any particular "hope" at all - let alone a hope that "someone rots in hell for all eternity."

I do see where she expressed that (given certain conditions) some should expect to rot in hell - but that is not even remotely the same thing.

If she had said, "if you whack your head with a hammer, expect to get a headache," would you accuse her of "hoping that someone gets a headache?"
 
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And I've already demonstrated by example and in the first person that argument from authority can help create a cogent inductive argument a few pages ago. How do you think you got to where you are in the discussion now? :)

What?
 
I think there is a huge difference between intentionally slaughtering children and doing it accidentally in an effort to save some. I also have not heard that we have been targeting school rooms. You have taken your stand and I have taken mine, and I doubt it has any effect one way or the other except to make us enemies.

I don't think there is much difference at all between deliberately slaughtering children and undertaking military operations KNOWING that innocent women and children will be killed in the process and just chalking it up to collateral damage. You are advocating murder, plain and simple.
 
Dirty bomb would be the thing that concerns me most about these threats of harm to us that we are hearing from those abroad. And it's the most likely scenario, unfortunately. Scary stuff. Sometimes we'd do well to put politics aside and revert to common sense.

Not really, unless you can get a lot of plutonium. The dirty bombs that are likely to be used would be such low levels of radioactivity as to be purely psychological. In any event, killing MORE people who have nothing to lose will only increase the risk.

The best thing to do is come home and let the Shiites and Sunnis and Israelis and Pakistanis and Indians and Kurds and Turks and Chinese etc. all fight it out. I will weep for the carnage, but there is nothing I can do about it.
 
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I don't think there is much difference at all between deliberately slaughtering children and undertaking military operations KNOWING that innocent women and children will be killed in the process and just chalking it up to collateral damage. You are advocating murder, plain and simple.
You are assuming far too much here Acala to be anywhere close to being correct IMHO. First of all, you assert, with enthusiasm I might add, that the combat operations which are targeted against enemy combatant(s) is done in a manner which is indifferent and wanton in respect to the lives of innocents. I happen to know for a fact that is simply not true. Every reasonable and sometimes even unreasonable effort is made to avoid the killing of any innocent. Granted, it does regretfully occur but not at the frequency that you suggest. And furthermore it is NOT the same thing as the intentional decapitation and spiking of those little heads or the burying alive of so many, as you say. You sir should be ashamed.
Now if you oppose the war fine, I can certainly respect that. But I don't respect your ignorant assumptions based on enemy propaganda.
 
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I don't think there is much difference at all between deliberately slaughtering children and undertaking military operations KNOWING that innocent women and children will be killed in the process and just chalking it up to collateral damage. You are advocating murder, plain and simple.

It certainly won't make one damn bit of difference to the corpses of the slaughtered innocents.

Nor is it likely to matter much to their surviving dear ones - or even to strangers who possess an ounce of empathy and a shred of decency.

And to whatever extent it does matter to them, it will almost certainly serve only to foster a bright & burning hatred for their "humanitarian benefactors," who speak so glibly of the necessary (but "accidental") carnage that was required in order to "save" them ...

Pax Americana gloriosa!
 
You are assuming far too much here Acala to be anywhere close to being correct IMHO. First of all, you assert, with enthusiasm I might add, that the combat operations which are targeted against enemy combatant(s) is done in a manner which is indifferent and wanton in respect to the lives of innocents. I happen to know for a fact that is simply not true. Every reasonable and sometimes even unreasonable effort is made to avoid the killing of any innocent. Granted, it does regretfully occur but not at the frequency that you suggest. And furthermore it is NOT the same thing as the intentional decapitation and spiking of those little heads or the burying alive of so many, as you say. You sir should be ashamed.
Now if you oppose the war fine, I can certainly respect that. But I don't respect your ignorant assumptions based on enemy propaganda.

You can make all the lame apologies you like. We kill innocent people on a regular basis in pursuit of our dubious global ambitions. I will grant you that in war, innocents are always killed. And that is exactly why war is only appropriate when the liberty of the American people is at stake - and it isn't. It hasn't been in my lifetime of 57 years (from an outside source that is). Any innocent person killed in an immoral war is a murder victim and supporters of that false war are supporters of murder. That means you.

And the US murdering children is not propaganda. I've seen the films and heard the US soldiers excusing it: "That's what happens when you bring your children to the battlefield". Except, of course, WE brought the battlefield to their front yards.

I am not defending ISIS or anyone else. That isn't the point. The world is full of people behaving in ways that I cannot endorse but cannot stop. I just hope I can stop my own government from being yet another such entity.

And, by the way, I AM ashamed. I am ashamed that my country has become a corrupt, brutal, immoral, mercenary bully concerned primarily with putting money in the pockets of government contractors and playing a global game of Risk with real human lives.
 
I don't think there is much difference at all between deliberately slaughtering children and undertaking military operations KNOWING that innocent women and children will be killed in the process and just chalking it up to collateral damage. You are advocating murder, plain and simple.

Does that still hold true if we took military action after we were attacked and there was collateral damage?
 
You can make all the lame apologies you like. We kill innocent people on a regular basis in pursuit of our dubious global ambitions. I will grant you that in war, innocents are always killed. And that is exactly why war is only appropriate when the liberty of the American people is at stake - and it isn't. It hasn't been in my lifetime of 57 years (from an outside source that is). Any innocent person killed in an immoral war is a murder victim and supporters of that false war are supporters of murder. That means you.

And the US murdering children is not propaganda. I've seen the films and heard the US soldiers excusing it: "That's what happens when you bring your children to the battlefield". Except, of course, WE brought the battlefield to their front yards.

I am not defending ISIS or anyone else. That isn't the point. The world is full of people behaving in ways that I cannot endorse but cannot stop. I just hope I can stop my own government from being yet another such entity.

And, by the way, I AM ashamed. I am ashamed that my country has become a corrupt, brutal, immoral, mercenary bully concerned primarily with putting money in the pockets of government contractors and playing a global game of Risk with real human lives.
Where on earth did you get that I was offering you an apology from? And you watched a few you tube videos and that is where you saw all these children being targeted and slaughtered...
Are you a commune product by chance?
 
According to many on this forum we should shut down immigration and/or go after illegal immigrants until the welfare state is ended.

Can we have some consistency and call for the end of federal taxes before more military actions are carried out? I'm tired of funding the murder machine.
 
You are assuming far too much here Acala to be anywhere close to being correct IMHO. First of all, you assert, with enthusiasm I might add, that the combat operations which are targeted against enemy combatant(s) is done in a manner which is indifferent and wanton in respect to the lives of innocents. I happen to know for a fact that is simply not true. Every reasonable and sometimes even unreasonable effort is made to avoid the killing of any innocent. Granted, it does regretfully occur but not at the frequency that you suggest. And furthermore it is NOT the same thing as the intentional decapitation and spiking of those little heads or the burying alive of so many, as you say. You sir should be ashamed.
Now if you oppose the war fine, I can certainly respect that. But I don't respect your ignorant assumptions based on enemy propaganda.

http://collateralmurder.com/

I can see why you would develop boils on your ass, speaking out of it so frequently. Bombing a town in which children live, and also "combatants" is just as deliberate. It's worse, because the murders occur under false pretenses. And that is what is going to happen is the US decides it's turrist stomping time in the desert again.
 
I like what Chuck Baldwin had to say in his most recent column.

Have ISIS terrorists already crossed the southern border into America? Texas Governor Rick Perry thinks so and said so in an address in Washington, D.C., a few days ago. It is very likely Gov. Perry is right.

But the fact is there could be a variety of terrorists that have slipped across the border into the U.S.--not just Sunni terrorists. So many tens and hundreds of thousands of illegals have been allowed to sneak into America, we have no idea how many terrorists are now among us. And there is no question in my mind that that is exactly the way the globalists in the shadows of power want it. They WANT another 9-11-type terrorist attack in America. If the powers that be wanted to stop the flow of violent illegals into this country, they could stop it anytime.

Democrats may want votes, and Republicans may want cheap labor, but the globalists want to dismantle U.S. sovereignty and independence. And that cannot happen with an armed citizenry.

They have tried everything to disarm us, and nothing has worked. So, they have constructed a giant Police State that is poised and ready to turn their guns (and attack helicopters and tanks and machine guns and internment camps) against the American citizenry. Boston and Ferguson are just two tiny examples of how this Police State has already been formed. All they need now is another terrorist attack on U.S. soil with thousands of casualties. Allowing unlimited numbers of illegal gang members and terrorists into the country is just the ticket to launch this diabolical attack against the American people.

Ask yourself this question: how many forces of the U.S. military would refuse orders to disarm the American citizenry? How many police officers and sheriff's deputies would refuse?

I would like to think that in many locations around the country our local police and sheriff's deputies would refuse such orders. I would like to think that the vast majority of lawmen in states such as Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Texas, Arizona, Kentucky, New Hampshire, etc., would refuse such orders. But you know as well as I do that in the vast majority of big cities and states that are already unfriendly to the 2nd Amendment, the vast majority of lawmen would obey without hesitation. Don't believe it? Again, look at Boston and Ferguson.

And what about our military? Last year, Marines at 29 Palms, California, were asked that very question in a survey, and two-thirds of them said they WOULD turn their weapons on the U.S. citizenry if ordered to do so. TWO-THIRDS!

Not very encouraging, is it? All that is needed is a trigger-event. That's what the porous southern border is all about.

The 9-11 attacks produced the PATRIOT ACT, DHS, and a gigantic surveillance society and police-state apparatus. Imagine what the next one will do!

Gov. Perry's solution is for the U.S. military to attack ISIS in the Middle East. Just what we need: another foreign war. No! The answer is an armed American citizenry, constitutionalist sheriffs, chiefs of police, police officers, sheriff's deputies, and elected civil magistrates--including those in Washington, D.C.

Our meddling in foreign affairs is a CAUSE of the problem, not a solution. And our politicians in Washington, D.C., FROM BOTH PARTIES are more interested in advancing their own careers than they are following the Constitution. And for the most part, our pastors are little more than pawns of the state--even if that state is a tyrannical one (per their erroneous teaching of Romans 13). If civil government demanded the American people to disarm, the vast majority of pastors would echo those demands in the pulpits of their churches. Heil, Hitler!

I guess this post has become a rant. But, folks, whatever "get ready" means to you, you need to do it--and do it quickly!
 
Liberals are a bit crazy believing only the military and police should have military weapons.

Conservatives are flatout suicidal. On one hand they say we need armed civilians to defeat a tyrannical government and then want to arm a potentially tyrannical government to the teeth. They then complain about a too powerful government, and are shocked when other countries don't like our too powerful government and try to kill our government employees when we send them over to occupy their countries. Blowback anyone?
 
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Killing leads to killing leads to killing. And everyone thinks, stupidly, that if we just have a really BIG killing, just this one time, just these evil people, then the killing will stop.

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