Islamic extremist kills 50 at Orlando gay nightclub

[Ranger29860]

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[susano]

I want to know why we have videos of supposedly injured people being carried from up the block TOWARD the night club by groups of civilians (actors?)? And if you find the video of Mr or Ms red shoes, as soon as they think they are out of camera shot the set him down on his feet and start standing around and joking with each other, WTH?

Do you have a link to any of those videos? I've seen very little. If that's the case then something isn't right. I was also struck by one I saw on TV where somebody was catching the shootout with a cell phone saying something like, "Due, they're shooting people". I found that suspect in that when bullets are flying people usually run for cover. That same thing happened in the Paris November deal.

 

[libertyjam]

Do you have a link to any of those videos? I've seen very little. If that's the case then something isn't right. I was also struck by one I saw on TV where somebody was catching the shootout with a cell phone saying something like, "Due, they're shooting people". I found that suspect in that when bullets are flying people usually run for cover. That same thing happened in the Paris November deal.

 

[pcosmar]

Obfuscation.

I make no claim of knowing exactly what happened..
Something happened.
Deliberately.

and we get the False Story,, and random bits of investigative theory. and some deliberate junk just to clutter the mind.

With a big gaping blank spot.

How Many were shot by Police? (i do keep asking this)








any? (some say no) I believe so.










,,









and the answer is... ALL of them..
All shot by police. From start to finish. Everyone there with a gun was a Government Agent.

 

[Ender]

Obfuscation.

I make no claim of knowing exactly what happened..
Something happened.
Deliberately.

and we get the False Story,, and random bits of investigative theory. and some deliberate junk just to clutter the mind.

With a big gaping blank spot.

How Many were shot by Police? (i do keep asking this)








any? (some say no) I believe so.










,,









and the answer is... ALL of them..
All shot by police. From start to finish. Everyone there with a gun was a Government Agent.

Plus any names released? Families coming forth about their heartbreak?

 

[pcosmar]

Plus any names released? Families coming forth about their heartbreak?

I would expect silence there. and respect their privacy.
Many likely came from conservative homes. Families may not want to advertise how they died.

The same will easily believe the story of terrorism (regardless of how flimsy).

 

[dannno]

Orlando shooter’s wife knew about his plot

Stefan Molyneux Defends Trump on "Terrorist families" Remark and Others
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...uot-Terrorist-families-quot-Remark-and-Others

 

[acptulsa]

Orlando shooter’s wife knew about his plot

Stefan Molyneux Defends Trump on "Terrorist families" Remark and Others
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...uot-Terrorist-families-quot-Remark-and-Others

Oh, yeah, she's a big threat.

 

[pcosmar]

Orlando shooter’s wife knew about his plot

uh huh,,
Wives and ex-wives say a lot of stuff.
Not high on my list of credibility though.

 

[susano]

I didn't find the first video very convincing of anything. Maybe they put him down because he was heavy and the guy hopping on one foot may have been doing that because the other foot hurt, HOWEVER, video #2 makes zero sense. I can't think of any reason they would be coming from the other direction toward the crime scene. In a stretch you could speculate that there was ambulance down that way but that's pushing it. I agree it's very fishy.

That Australian guy did lots of great YTs on the November Paris event.

 

[susano]

Plus any names released? Families coming forth about their heartbreak?

I've seen links with the names of the alleged victims. Didn't look. The thing is, if it's some kind of psyop, names and faces of victims don't mean anything (Sandy Hook being a good example). If the alleged victims were current residents of Orlando they could have been paid off and relocated. Some faces could be people alive and who live other countries who were given fake names for the story. It would take a good private investigator (or a few) to confirm the identities.

IMO, it would be relatively easy to stage such a fake drama, if that's what it was. The Brussels airport would have been even easier.

 

[susano]

Heh

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One of many around the western world, I suppose. Lucrative racket.

 

[dannno]

Oh, yeah, she's a big threat.

She could have stopped over 50 people from being murdered and she didn't. You don't think there should be any repercussions for that?

 

[timosman]

She could have stopped over 50 people from being murdered and she didn't. You don't think there should be any repercussions for that?

She probably will settle out of court. A trial would bring too much light into the event.

 

[angelatc]

She could have stopped over 50 people from being murdered and she didn't. You don't think there should be any repercussions for that?

No, I don't. The precedent of being able to make someone criminally liable for not doing something is dangerous.

"See something, say something. It's not just for volunteers."

 

[acptulsa]

She could have stopped over 50 people from being murdered and she didn't. You don't think there should be any repercussions for that?

What do you suggest? Killing her and her family--even though they were divorced--as a way to deter other terrorists from committing acts of terror as Molyneux and Trump suggest?

Are you sure killing ex wives is a deterrent?

Have you reported everyone you ever heard threaten to kill someone in your whole life?

 

[susano]

No, I don't. The precedent of being to make someone criminally liable for not doing something is dangerous.

I think that's exactly what is trying to be established with this part of the story.

I'm still not convinced any of it is the truth, either.

 

[Danke]

No, I don't. The precedent of being to make someone criminally liable for not doing something is dangerous.

Hasn't that been the case for a long time? At least it is in government and military work.

 

[angelatc]

Hasn't that been the case for a long time? At least it is in government and military work.

Perhaps. But I'm pretty firmly in the "never call the police" camp, and this does not change that.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Perhaps. But I'm pretty firmly in the "never call the police" camp, and this does not change that.

Ya, I'm afraid I'm on your side. You can't tell if someone is actually going to kill someone or just full of sheit. There have been many times in my life when I stated that I wish someone were dead or perhaps even said I'd kill them and nothing ever came of it. I'm sure that 99.99% of the time that's exactly the outcome. Whereas going to the goons has often resulted in harm coming to the one trying to help. I think I'd only resort to talking to the goons if I saw someone with weapons in hand and intention to kill...