Islamic extremist kills 50 at Orlando gay nightclub

[parocks]

The most revealing company name on the list was G4S Wackenhut Pakistan. G4S is a British-based behemoth in the industry with a troubling human rights record. Its presence in countless countries is ubiquitous and it remains the world’s largest security firm on revenues, operating in 125 nations and employing over 650,000 people. Countless men in G4S uniforms are employed across the country.

In Islamabad the G4S manager, retired from the air force, is Muhammad Alamgir Khan. “I wasn’t really working before [in the army],” he said, “but now I’m working for G4S. Army is a way of life.”


http://antonyloewenstein.com/2012/04/17/private-militias-polluting-pakistan/

Interesting old article talking about G4S, where the shooter worked, and Pakistan, who his dad has been posting about on Facebook.

People should be looking very closely at G4S.

People talk about some sort of Sandy Hook, didn't happen, type scenario - who is in the middle of this - G4S. Did the shooter use G4S guns?


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In a statement on Sunday evening, the North American CEO of G4S emphasized that Mateen “was not on duty” when he attacked the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

(Or, he was) Someone asked the question. "So, G4S, was he working at the time?" "Nope, just clocked out". He was in the movie "The Big Fix" (interesting title within this context) where he was praising how disasters mean work and money and money is good. Shootings in clubs mean more security hired, more money for G4S. We know already that that's how the shooter thought. The shooter is getting the hero award in the boardrooms of the big security firms, and G4S is the biggest.

 

[Weston White]

Just wanted to quickly note, if nobody else has yet, the new terminology they are rolling out since this newest incident; the new talking point is no only "assault weapons", but WEAPONS OF WAR.

Also they are really pushing the emotional appeal that if they do not take real action on "common sense" gun regulation, then this these types of incidents are going to keep occurring.

 

[parocks]

And that's assuming anyone was shot and this isn't just a psy op drama. In the people were really shot theory, the killer could have been mind controlled. I don't think anyone was shot, though and the killer could be some guy living in Afghanistan, long dead, or some Jew in Tel Aviv. Dunno.

I heard some whiny guy on TV, in the other room, and went to see. He was recounting the horror and fake crying (no tears, but pulling a face and whimpering), just like all of the other fake drama witnesses.

He worked for G4S. One of the things that G4S does is mercenary work. In places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. That AR-15 - was that a G4S weapon? Isn't it the US Government who is giving G4S money to essentially be terrorists in the middle east? This seems to me to be something that should be pushed to the forefront of the discussion.

 

[pcosmar]

Also they are really pushing the emotional appeal that if they do not take real action on "common sense" gun regulation, then this these types of incidents are going to keep occurring.

They will do so regardless. There is no such thing as "common sense" gun regulation.

Regulation is prohibition.

and these events will keep occurring until one of two thing happen.

Guns are outlawed and collected to the point that TPTB no longer feel threatened.

Or men get off their asses and take the country back.

I am a Prohibited Person. (something that should not exist,, and yet I speak)

I am waiting on ya'all.

 

[susano]

Just wanted to quickly note, if nobody else has yet, the new terminology they are rolling out since this newest incident; the new talking point is no only "assault weapons", but WEAPONS OF WAR.

Also they are really pushing the emotional appeal that if they do not take real action on "common sense" gun regulation, then this these types of incidents are going to keep occurring.

IOW, until we get extreme gun control, we're going to keep on orchestrating these dramas (real killings of not). Too bad our side doesn't have the means to pull a reverse fake drama where terrorists invade a public place and well armed citizens take them all out.

Whenever they talk about weapons of war - though I didn't catch that that's their new phrase - I come right back at them (forums, chat sites, YT, etc) with the biggest killers are military and police so they best get busy disarming them.

 

[susano]

The most revealing company name on the list was G4S Wackenhut Pakistan. G4S is a British-based behemoth in the industry with a troubling human rights record. Its presence in countless countries is ubiquitous and it remains the world’s largest security firm on revenues, operating in 125 nations and employing over 650,000 people. Countless men in G4S uniforms are employed across the country.

In Islamabad the G4S manager, retired from the air force, is Muhammad Alamgir Khan. “I wasn’t really working before [in the army],” he said, “but now I’m working for G4S. Army is a way of life.”


http://antonyloewenstein.com/2012/04/17/private-militias-polluting-pakistan/

Interesting old article talking about G4S, where the shooter worked, and Pakistan, who his dad has been posting about on Facebook.

People should be looking very closely at G4S.

People talk about some sort of Sandy Hook, didn't happen, type scenario - who is in the middle of this - G4S. Did the shooter use G4S guns?


*****************************

In a statement on Sunday evening, the North American CEO of G4S emphasized that Mateen “was not on duty” when he attacked the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

(Or, he was) Someone asked the question. "So, G4S, was he working at the time?" "Nope, just clocked out". He was in the movie "The Big Fix" (interesting title within this context) where he was praising how disasters mean work and money and money is good. Shootings in clubs mean more security hired, more money for G4S. We know already that that's how the shooter thought. The shooter is getting the hero award in the boardrooms of the big security firms, and G4S is the biggest.

But, parocks, it could just easily be this:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ay-nightclub&p=6240094&viewfull=1#post6240094

Also in the UK and note that they say they work with security contractors. As you point out, G4S will benefit from increased security contracts but they would in a staged drama, that people thought was real, too.

ETA: OMG, I just looked at that page again and it says right there they work with G4S!

 

[enhanced_deficit]

A writer at NBC analyzes this changing story:

Commentary: The Intersection of Sexuality, Self Hatred & Terror

by Jason Page


Omar Mateen in this undated photo from his Myspace page. MySpace via AFP - Getty Images
"Was Omar Mateen gay?"
The answer to the above question will never be known. But the question being asked is one that again paints the media in a negative light as far as this writer is concerned. Because to ask the question is to show a lack of understanding of sexual discovery and the difficulties that come with it for so many boys, girls, men and women across this country and around the world.
As a teenager, I was what many would consider a typical guy. I dated the captain of the cheerleading team and plenty of other girls throughout my high school years. After high school, I started to experiment with other men Still, I was engaged at 20 (to a woman.) That relationship would eventually end when my fiancé realized who I was before I had even realized it. Even after coming out privately to my family in 2000 and having many relationships of the lengthy and not so lengthy variety, I would have one more relationship with a female in 2009. I was honest with this woman about my sexual orientation, but I decided to give heterosexuality one more shot. That relationship would end after just a few months. The point of this isn't to catalogue my sexual escapades of the past 20 years, it's to make the point that sexuality has many shades of gray.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-o...mateen-n593226



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[parocks]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/omar-mateen-worked-department-homeland-security-contractor/

G4S receives, according to one report, $234 million in security contracts from DHS, but not without major controversy. According to Paul Sperry of Counter Jihad, “Judicial Watch revealed G4S has been quietly moving and releasing van loads of illegal aliens away from the border to interior American cities.”

Sperry writes G4S works with other federal agencies, as well, “including the departments of State, Interior, Labor, Justice and Energy, and the IRS and Drug Enforcement Administration. The security firm also partners with the U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force and NASA.”

 

[pcosmar]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/omar-mateen-worked-department-homeland-security-contractor/

G4S receives, according to one report, $234 million in security contracts from DHS, but not without major controversy. According to Paul Sperry of Counter Jihad, “Judicial Watch revealed G4S has been quietly moving and releasing van loads of illegal aliens away from the border to interior American cities.”

Sperry writes G4S works with other federal agencies, as well, “including the departments of State, Interior, Labor, Justice and Energy, and the IRS and Drug Enforcement Administration. The security firm also partners with the U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force and NASA.”

OK
So how many people were shot by police?

 

[susano]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/omar-mateen-worked-department-homeland-security-contractor/

G4S receives, according to one report, $234 million in security contracts from DHS, but not without major controversy. According to Paul Sperry of Counter Jihad, “Judicial Watch revealed G4S has been quietly moving and releasing van loads of illegal aliens away from the border to interior American cities.”

Sperry writes G4S works with other federal agencies, as well, “including the departments of State, Interior, Labor, Justice and Energy, and the IRS and Drug Enforcement Administration. The security firm also partners with the U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force and NASA.”

By hook or by crook they're bringing in as many immigrants as they can. When they encounter resistance, they sneak 'em in.

I wonder if anyone has caught this bringing them in vans on video.

 

[susano]

OK
So how many people were shot by police?

If it really happened, probably most or all of them. Is it known if all of the "police" at the scene were actually local?

 

[pcosmar]

If it really happened, probably most or all of them. Is it known if all of the "police" at the scene were actually local?

IF if it started as an "exercise" then most of the cops would be local with a few others as observers or training coaches.

Who would be in full WTF/CYA mode at this point.

do folks even know what a blank expended brass looks like?

 

[susano]

IF if it started as an "exercise" then most of the cops would be local with a few others as observers or training coaches.

Who would be in full WTF/CYA mode at this point.

do folks even know what a blank expended brass looks like?

At Sandy Hook they had outside actors (DHS, BATF, DEA) and actors, descend on the school and, I think, they took over from or pushed out real local first responders to make sure they didn't see what was going on (nothing!). They (the feds and/or state) had also commandeered communication channels prior to the show. In that case, I get the sense that anyone who was wise to the BS was threatened or afraid to speak out. I recall reading that there were some cops who had to take time off due to the "trauma" of that day and later one filed a disability claim but was immediately denied. I wondered if he was playing trying to shake down the city since they'd put him in that position. Anyway, I'm sure there are people who are not in these deals (hoaxes or not) who never get to do their own jobs because of the inside players who barge in and take over. In this Orlando deal, I wonder if there were any outside players, like maybe the SWAT teams.

 

[angelatc]

If someone knows a person has weapons, knows their intention to kill people and has strong reason to believe they are serious, should they have any responsibility if the murders occur?

If someone knows a person has drugs, knows their intention to distribute them, and has strong reason to believe they are serious, should they have any legal responsibility if someone else ODs?

 

[wizardwatson]

If someone knows a person has weapons, knows their intention to kill people and has strong reason to believe they are serious, should they have any responsibility if the murders occur?

I sure hope not. Or we all goin' to hell.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Ok, I posted. Don't know if it will last or if it will be deleted...

I went back there to see if there are any responses to my post but I'm lost... How do I find my comment among the thousands? I went to my account settings to see if there was a way to find it there but that didn't help either...

 

[timosman]

Orlando mom Christine Leinonen's son listed among victims of nightclub massacre

http://www.today.com/news/mother-missing-man-holding-out-sliver-hope-he-survived-orlando-t97876

 

[devil21]

He worked for G4S. One of the things that G4S does is mercenary work. In places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. That AR-15 - was that a G4S weapon? Isn't it the US Government who is giving G4S money to essentially be terrorists in the middle east? This seems to me to be something that should be pushed to the forefront of the discussion.

Probably was a G4S gun. Its been identified (for whatever that's worth) as not just a plain jane AR but the much more expensive Sig Sauer MCX. Those big budget pros don't mess with low end Bushmasters and the like, only the finest rifles $$$ can buy.

I read an interesting report over on a different website that said the guy captured in LA with a car load of rifles and explosives, heading to their gay pride parade, told the police he was part of an orchestrated CIA plot and when Mateen was reported dead and his handler contact in LA had disappeared, he called the cops saying he feared he would end up dead too. Notice how that story got dropped like a hot potato by the media.

Here's the initial media report
http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/armed-man-headed-to-la-gay-pride-parade-said-he-wanted-to-do-harm/

Here's the link on the rabbit hole - interesting read and definitely fits
http://getoffthebs.com/five-suspects-involved-in-planned-attacks/

Sources within the Santa Monica police department claim that James Wesley Howell, an Indiana man who was caught with explosives and weapons on Sunday Morning, told the Santa Monica police that as many as five people were involved in planned attacks on gay communities in both Florida and California.
.............
Finding his contact missing when he got to LA and having heard that Omar Matteen had been killed by a FBI SWAT teem in Orlando, Howell determined he had been double crossed by the CIA and feared for his own life.

Howell was taken in to custody by the FBI before Santa Monica police officers could further question him about the motives behind killing gay people on both coasts of the US on Sunday.

more at link

This raises the possibility that the 'pop star shooting' the night before was a "go signal", based on rough non-stop travel times between IN and CA.

 

[Ender]

Probably was a G4S gun. Its been identified (for whatever that's worth) as not just a plain jane AR but the much more expensive Sig Sauer MCX. Those big budget pros don't mess with low end Bushmasters and the like, only the finest rifles $$$ can buy.

I read an interesting report over on a different website that said the guy captured in LA with a car load of rifles and explosives, heading to their gay pride parade, told the police he was part of an orchestrated CIA plot and when Mateen was reported dead and his handler contact in LA had disappeared, he called the cops saying he feared he would end up dead too. Notice how that story got dropped like a hot potato by the media.

Here's the initial media report
http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/armed-man-headed-to-la-gay-pride-parade-said-he-wanted-to-do-harm/

Here's the link on the rabbit hole - interesting read and definitely fits
http://getoffthebs.com/five-suspects-involved-in-planned-attacks/



This raises the possibility that the 'pop star shooting' the night before was a "go signal", based on rough non-stop travel times between IN and CA.

From the 2nd link:

Howell and Four Other Suspects Involved in Planned Sunday Massacres

James Howell - Get Off The BS

Sources within the Santa Monica police department claim that James Wesley Howell, an Indiana man who was caught with explosives and weapons on Sunday Morning, told the Santa Monica police that as many as five people were involved in planned attacks on gay communities in both Florida and California.

According to the LA Times, Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks initially said on Twitter that the 20-year-old Indiana man (James Howell) told one of her officers after he was arrested that he wanted “to harm the Gay Pride event.”

However, after the FBI quickly took over the case, a Santa Monica police spokesman Saul Rodriguez indicated that Seabrooks was mistaken and offered that the Santa Monica detectives who were working the case are “not aware of what the suspect’s intentions were at this point.”

The official version of this story released by the LA Times falsely claims that on early Sunday, Santa Monica police received a call about a suspected prowler who was knocking on a resident’s door and window about 5 a.m. in the 1700 block of 11th Street, Santa Monica police said.

Patrol officers responded and encountered Howell, who was sitting in a car registered in Indiana, police said. Officers inspected the car and found three assault rifles, high-capacity ammunition and a 5-gallon bucket containing “chemicals capable of forming an improvised explosive device,” police said.

A law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity said the contents of the bucket included Tannerite, an ingredient that could be used to create pipe bombs.

The source, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing investigation, said authorities also found camouflage clothing in the car.

Los Angeles County sheriff’s officials said the suspect told police he was going to the Pride parade to look for a friend. Authorities were looking for that individual.
Really? Police chiefs make these kind of errors everyday - LMAO

Do police chiefs make these kind of errors everyday? Get off the Bullshit

The real truth of the story was released to a former Los Angeles County prosecutor who works for Get Off the BS by two Santa Monica police officers that have been issued gag orders under threat of Federal prosecution for talking further talking about the incident.

According to two department sources, Howell called the Santa Monica police on Sunday morning claiming that he needed protection from the CIA. Howell further elaborated to the dispatcher stating that he “had been set up by the CIA – they are going to kill me.”

According to Howell, he was in LA to meet with another person in a collaborated attack on the gay communities in both Florida and Los Angeles.

Howell additionally stated that, “everything has gone south. Dan was gone when I got here. They killed the leader of the Florida attack this morning. They are going to kill me. I need protection.”

According to sources within the police department’s investigation Howell indicated to officers who first made contact with him that Howell claimed he was one of five people involved in a planned Sunday attack on both the east and west coasts.

Howell stated that he was suppose to “hook up” late Saturday night with his contact in LA who was suppose to have more weapons and chemicals to mix with the Tannerite he was in possession of.

“When I got here, Dan was gone. I went to his apartment and he had cleared out….I tried calling him but he never answered me,” said Howell.

When questioned about the other four people involved in the plot, Howell was only familiar with the first names of three of the alleged suspects, naming his contact in LA – Dan and two of the three contacts in Florida, Omar and Brandy

Speaking of the suspect killed in the Pulse Bar massacre in Florida, Howell stated, “Omar was not suppose to be killed. They lied to us – Omar and Brandy were suppose to get away.”

When Howell was questioned about how he and his conspirators knew each other, he said that,

“We were all familiar with each other through an online fundamental Islamic knowledge seminary course[1] – we were recruited through the course and trained together at a camp in Virginia – we were taught how to shoot and make bombs – everyone knew their part – something went wrong….”

Before the officers could further question Howell, agents working for the Los Angeles office of the FBI quickly swept in and took over the case. Santa Monica detectives were never allowed to talk with Howell.

In summary, it appears that Howell was on his way to “hook up” with another conspirator (Dan) to set off explosives and shoot people at the gay pride parade in Hollywood California on Sunday.

Finding his contact missing when he got to LA and having heard that Omar Matteen had been killed by a FBI SWAT teem in Orlando, Howell determined he had been double crossed by the CIA and feared for his own life.

Howell was taken in to custody by the FBI before Santa Monica police officers could further question him about the motives behind killing gay people on both coasts of the US on Sunday.

However, in absence of further information and or anyone who will officially go on the record, there is no doubt that the America public is not being told the truth about the Orlando Florida shooting and the arrest of Howell on Sunday.

It is a shame that the Fed’s got to the Santa Monica police chief on Sunday before she was silenced, however we are very thankful that at least two officers have risked their jobs and freedom to reveal what she would of most likely Tweeted had the Fed’s not got to her.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

At least some people in the homosexual community are starting to get it...

"On Wednesday morning, posters suddenly appeared in West Hollywood, California featuring a gay version of the Gadsden Flag featuring a rattlesnake on top of the gay rainbow. The flags also had the hashtag #ShootBack indicating a more proactive approach to gay self-defense. The posters were attracting attention in front of the Pacific Design Center, The Abbey, West Hollywood City Hall and in front of artist Chad Michael Morrisette's house. Morrisette had covered the roof of his house with 50 mannequins to make a statement about the Orlando shootings."

more below...



http://www.dailywire.com/news/6612/west-hollywood-inundated-poster-rainbow-gadsen-hank-berrien