Islamic extremist kills 50 at Orlando gay nightclub

[susano]

Something I'm curious about is the shooter was reported (not sure if this accurate) sitting at the bar having last call. Then he exists the bar (to get a weapon(s) presumably). A shoot out occurs outside. What is the timeline on that? Was there any outside shooting before the shooter came back into the bar or did cops arrive after 911 calls? Also, did anyone identify the shooter after he came back into the bar? IOW, is there any video (bar front door, especially) or eyewitness account that the man we've been told did it and who had been at the bar is the same guy who came back in?

 

[Ender]

Something I'm curious about is the shooter was reported (not sure if this accurate) sitting at the bar having last call. Then he exists the bar (to get a weapon(s) presumably). A shoot out occurs outside. What is the timeline on that? Was there any outside shooting before the shooter came back into the bar or did cops arrive after 911 calls? Also, did anyone identify the shooter after he came back into the bar? IOW, is there any video (bar front door, especially) or eyewitness account that the man we've been told did it and who had been at the bar is the same guy who came back in?

Good questions with no answers at the moment.

 

[lilymc]

Something I'm curious about is the shooter was reported (not sure if this accurate) sitting at the bar having last call. Then he exists the bar (to get a weapon(s) presumably). A shoot out occurs outside. What is the timeline on that? Was there any outside shooting before the shooter came back into the bar or did cops arrive after 911 calls? Also, did anyone identify the shooter after he came back into the bar? IOW, is there any video (bar front door, especially) or eyewitness account that the man we've been told did it and who had been at the bar is the same guy who came back in?

Good questions with no answers at the moment.

I'm glad that curious, inquisitive people still exist in this world.

The lack of curiosity I see from some, I find sad. I mean, the government and media would never lie or deceive people, right?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Early MSM/CNN/Drudge/Obama handlers reporting has outdone thier previous ISIS=RM1.0 reporting it seems.

So he was a gay "Islamic extremist":

Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
The Palm Beach Post
2 hours ago - A former classmate of Omar Mateen's 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/

Obama and US Senator Bill Nelson called it a hate crime and terrorism.

Does this mean a person can be gay and "radical muslim"?

Was this shooting hate crime and terrorism?

 

[Ender]

I'm glad that curious, inquisitive people still exist in this world.

The lack of curiosity I see from some, I find sad. I mean, the government and media would never lie or deceive people, right?

NEVER.

i'm shocked you even mentioned that- SHOCKED, I tell ya.

 

[Ender]

Obama and US Senator Bill Nelson called it a hate crime and terrorism.

Does this mean a person can be gay and "radical muslim"?

Was this shooting hate crime and terrorism?

And hate gays?

Somethin' ain't jivin'........

 

[susano]

Obama and US Senator Bill Nelson called it a hate crime and terrorism.

Does this mean a person can be gay and "radical muslim"?

Was this shooting hate crime and terrorism?

Oh, wow! I'd love to hear what his wife (current one) has to say about that.

What I would like to know is about his and his family's history. We've heard bi-polar woman beater with serious anger issues and now this but I mean psychiatric treatments, hospitalizations, connections to the military industrial complex (which is there with this GS2 or whatever it is). Anything like that could have provided an opportunity for someone to screw with his head and mind control him. How did his parents come here from Afghanistan? CIA or some intel connected Muslim organization?

An aside: Isn't it strange that SJWs use the word "trigger" (and they use it constantly)? I spent years researching mind control and being triggered is, of course, what's done with the mind controlled subject. Remember the Beltway shooters and that bizarre presser from Chief Moose where he talked about "a duck in a noose"? I'm certain that was a trigger - perhaps to signal it was time for the shooters to cease and make themselves available to be caught.

 

[Danke]

Russian made aircraft. Syrian flown.

 

[puppetmaster]

Obama and US Senator Bill Nelson called it a hate crime and terrorism.

Does this mean a person can be gay and "radical muslim"?

Was this shooting hate crime and terrorism?

Police Academy......did not know that.

 

[pcosmar]

Survivors are saying that there was more than one shooter & that it seemed they were using machine guns.

Likely they were the police.

 

[TheCount]

Survivors are saying that there was more than one shooter & that it seemed they were using machine guns.

I'm not normally one to stereotype, but forgive me if I'm hesitant to trust the firearms knowledge of the patrons of a gay night club in Orlando.

 

[Ender]

I'm not normally one to stereotype, but forgive me if I'm hesitant to trust the firearms knowledge of the patrons of a gay night club in Orlando.

Especially if they were the one's being shot at- could bring up a bit of anxiety and confusion.

 

[alucard13mm]

I think the dad has something to do with it. The dad most likely goaded his son to do this. Why? To restore the family honor, to prove he is not gay, only way to enter heaven by going on a jihad. His son is a martyr, which means the father scores points with taliban/isis for his son's martyrdom.

Most likely his dad gay shamed his son into doing it.

 

[TheCount]

I think the dad has something to do with it. The dad most likely goaded his son to do this. Why? To restore the family honor, to prove he is not gay, only way to enter heaven by going on a jihad. His son is a martyr, which means the father scores points with taliban/isis for his son's martyrdom.

Most likely his dad gay shamed his son into doing it.

I'm not so sure that it was the dad, but I do think that this is the case. Son 'absolves' himself of the sin of being gay through martyrdom.

I think I read that he went on the Hajj a few years ago, which would have made him what... 21-ish? That absolves sin too. So, you're a gay Muslim, you go on the Hajj, but you come back and you're still gay, struggle with it for a few years, marry a woman you don't care for and beat the shit out of her, don't have any kids... and then shoot up a nightclub.

 

[pcosmar]

I'm not so sure <>

then shoot up a nightclub.

I think the handlers got really sloppy with this one..

a rush job.

questions are accumulating quickly.

someone is going to have footage on a cell. Perhaps some of the wounded start talking.

it will unravel.

 

[wizardwatson]

I think the handlers got really sloppy with this one..

a rush job.

questions are accumulating quickly.

someone is going to have footage on a cell. Perhaps some of the wounded start talking.

it will unravel.

I've seen this said numerous times for other incidents. Nothing unraveled with Sandy Hook, Oregon refuge, etc. Not even the big kahuna 9/11.

The story only has to have enough legs to outlast our collective attention span. And purportedly, "they" control that too.

Next.

 

[acptulsa]

I think the handlers got really sloppy with this one..

Is that the most logical explanation? Or is the most logical explanation that the father, in a state of denial, lied, the media ran with that in their rush to push their usual agenda, and the whole thing looks sloppy because they built their usual propaganda castle on the foundation of a lie?

 

[Ender]

I think the handlers got really sloppy with this one..

a rush job.

questions are accumulating quickly.

someone is going to have footage on a cell. Perhaps some of the wounded start talking.

it will unravel.

Agree-

 

[Ender]

Is that the most logical explanation? Or is the most logical explanation that the father, in a state of denial, lied, the media ran with that in their rush to push their usual agenda, and the whole thing looks sloppy because they built their usual propaganda castle on the foundation of a lie?

Follow the money- who's benefiting and what is being justified into action?

 

[pcosmar]

Is that the most logical explanation? Or is the most logical explanation that the father, in a state of denial, lied, the media ran with that in their rush to push their usual agenda, and the whole thing looks sloppy because they built their usual propaganda castle on the foundation of a lie?

No Idea,, but it ain't what it was presented as.

And How many people were shot by police?