India attacked!

[Dsylexic]

some of the tasteless posts in this forum amaze me. are these people really lovers of liberty? i think they are into the RP thing because of misguided zeal.if the US were noninterventionist,pakistani terrorists would have been wiped out long back.
i live in mumbai and it is pretty horrifying to realize that these are the places i hang out on weekends. the trauma will linger for long
but nothing is going to change. the same old socialist and fascists(bjp/congress) will fight over identity politics and terrorists will continue to prosper.

 

[ShaneC]

some of the tasteless posts in this forum amaze me. are these people really lovers of liberty? i think they are into the RP thing because of misguided zeal.if the US were noninterventionist,pakistani terrorists would have been wiped out long back.
i live in mumbai and it is pretty horrifying to realize that these are the places i hang out on weekends. the trauma will linger for long
but nothing is going to change. the same old socialist and fascists(bjp/congress) will fight over identity politics and terrorists will continue to prosper.

Theres enough bad news in the world that sometimes people just need to find a way to make light of the situation. Unfortunatly, its sometimes in bad taste.

This is very sad and shocking news with great potential for even more disaster in the "War on Terror". This means that not only is terrorism not declining, but that in turn, the great leaders of the world will need to "do more" to prevent this sort of thing from happening. ...and we all know what happens when leaders "do more to protect us"....

So, while in bad taste, it did make me chuckle.

 

[t0rnado]

There government has confirmed that there was months of planning and reconnaissance. The terrorists had stayed in the hotel multiple times over the last month and it's an extremely expensive hotel.

The guns they used weren't AK-47's, they were MP6s and MP5A5s. This wasn't just some crazy cave dwellers. It was well planned and well funded. There has to be some larger sponsor.

 

[BlackTerrel]

some of the tasteless posts in this forum amaze me. are these people really lovers of liberty? i think they are into the RP thing because of misguided zeal.if the US were noninterventionist,pakistani terrorists would have been wiped out long back.
i live in mumbai and it is pretty horrifying to realize that these are the places i hang out on weekends. the trauma will linger for long
but nothing is going to change. the same old socialist and fascists(bjp/congress) will fight over identity politics and terrorists will continue to prosper.

First of all as an American let me apologize. I have quite a few Indian friends here in the states, some of them with friends and family in Mumbai and my thoughts and prayers are with them. Know that most Americans understand that this is a serious matter.

I will ask how you think India would have wiped out Pakistani terrorists if not for the US? Do you mean an outright war between India and Pakistan would have occurred if not for the US?

 

[youngbuck]

This is probably manipulated...to crank up the unrest surrounding pakistan..tones

Yes that is correct..Obama will get us into pakistan...pakistan and india have nukes. people will long for bush when obama gets through with his warmongering. tones

That's what I perceive to be most likely at first sight.

 

[sidster]

Yes that is correct..Obama will get us into pakistan...pakistan and india have nukes. people will long for bush when obama gets through with his warmongering. tones

This is probably manipulated...to crank up the unrest surrounding pakistan..tones

That's what I perceive to be most likely at first sight.

ditto!

 

[american empire]

leave the passion in India or better take the patriotism back there...

one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.....the founder of America were known as terrorist ....similarly some of the seperatists are fighting th eIndian Government for Independence....

Before you go around looking for sympathy on this forum....tell me how many people have been killed by the Indian Army in Kashmir where the people are killed by the army just for protesting .....women raped and children killed .....everything is reactionary....although all this looks staged with the excessive amount of coverage with bullshit CNN reporting Iit would take an ass to beleive this operation .....

I dont know which crack you crawled out of but Musharraf is not the president of Pakistan its this corrupt US puppet Zardari who was living in the US after fleeing Pakistani Courts....

You sound like a real Obama supporter asking for change .....aka a war in another area ....isnt that what Obama will want to kick start the economy?

I the "terrorist" are no match for Indian Army then why is the Kashmir Insurgeny still High and what about the one in the northwest ....besides India are supporting Tamil terrorists who have killed more people than the Terrorists in India....please get your facts straight before you go around talking about the holiness of your country India.....

We just signed a nuclear deal with India which is WRONG since they never signed the Non proliferation Treaty...its the same as the Israel Palestinian issue where we side with Israel....this is what Ron Paul says....DONT SIDE WITH ANYONE......we shouldnt be siding with India like we did with teh nuclear deal as it antagonizes the other side....

besides have you heard the quote by samuel jackson "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" ...your country isnt an angel as it has been trying to dominate their region and to do so has been staging false ops so quit with the BS....

The term "Hindu extremists" is a joke...as an Indian,I was shocked by the news...and it took me some time to respond to this...I am enraged by this...it is the 8th or 9th attack this year...innocent civilians killed...people using public transport are being killed...kids,women,foreigners,tourists...innocent lives...!!!

I would like to know Ron Paul's response to this...I still believe his foreign policy of non-intervention is the best possible response from the US,for India...India has the military might to take care of itself...It wont take much time for the Indian army to wipe out the terrorist camps in Pakistan...many a times before the US has intervened and acted as a check to the Indian response...

US must stop funding Pakistan.Considering a military dictator,Musharaff, as its ally against the global war on terror is a big joke...Musharaff himself admitted to have started the kargil war...there is no difference between pakistani terrorists and pakistani army...all work together and it has been known for years...

Ron Paul is right ...the best thing the US can do is respect India's sovereignty and allow it to care of the problem itself...the pakistani terrorists will be wiped out in no time...they are no match for the mighty Indian army.

US foreign policy is a mess...fighting a phony war in Iraq...ignoring the real war...taking one of the culprits as an ally...needs change...real change.

Jai Hind!!!
Satyameva Jayate(Truth alone triumphs)

Would like to know the response of others.

 

[Monolithic]

a couple UK news sources like The Guardian and the evening standard are saying that one or a couple of the attackers were british born pakistanis

 

[acptulsa]

You sound like a real Obama supporter asking for change .....aka a war in another area ....isnt that what Obama will want to kick start the economy?

Perhaps you have a point. But he's not asking it of us:

"Ron Paul is right ...the best thing the US can do is respect India's sovereignty and allow it to care of the problem itself...the pakistani terrorists will be wiped out in no time...they are no match for the mighty Indian army."

You quoted this. Did you read it?

 

[Sandra]

There is NO WAY any news source can have confirmed reports at this time. I have to wonder who the "government sources" are and why the term is thrown around so loosely. At this point papers can make up anything to appear to be the first in the know and blame the anonomous sources when the news accounts are proved false. The first reports do create the most sway.

 

[american empire]

Perhaps you have a point. But he's not asking it of us:

"Ron Paul is right ...the best thing the US can do is respect India's sovereignty and allow it to care of the problem itself...the pakistani terrorists will be wiped out in no time...they are no match for the mighty Indian army."

You quoted this. Did you read it?

yes I read it beause historically and geographically its illogigical.....yes we must stay out of it (dint we just sign a nuclear pact) does the poster think thats wrong tooo...if he does then maybe I would agree with him....besides the insurgency in Kashmir aka "terrorist" has been going on for 50 yrs....its a joke when he says the "mighty" Indian army can wipe them out....there are over 100,000 soldiers in Kashmir to quell the independence movement...they havent been able to do that for 60 yrs much less now.....

a couple UK news sources like The Guardian and the evening standard are saying that one or a couple of the attackers were british born pakistanis

so which one are they Pakistani or Brtitish....besides why do they even call them Pakistani when tthey were born and I assume grew up in Britain....British terrorists....Pakistani puts a nice spin for the sheep...

 

[rsvforronpaul]

leave the passion in India or better take the patriotism back there...

one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.....the founder of America were known as terrorist ....similarly some of the seperatists are fighting th

eIndian Government for Independence....

Before you go around looking for sympathy on this forum....tell me how many people have been killed by the Indian Army in Kashmir where the people are killed

by the army just for protesting .....women raped and children killed .....everything is reactionary....although all this looks staged with the excessive

amount of coverage with bullshit CNN reporting Iit would take an ass to beleive this operation .....

I dont know which crack you crawled out of but Musharraf is not the president of Pakistan its this corrupt US puppet Zardari who was living in the US after

fleeing Pakistani Courts....

You sound like a real Obama supporter asking for change .....aka a war in another area ....isnt that what Obama will want to kick start the economy?

I the "terrorist" are no match for Indian Army then why is the Kashmir Insurgeny still High and what about the one in the northwest ....besides India are

supporting Tamil terrorists who have killed more people than the Terrorists in India....please get your facts straight before you go around talking about the

holiness of your country India.....

We just signed a nuclear deal with India which is WRONG since they never signed the Non proliferation Treaty...its the same as the Israel Palestinian issue

where we side with Israel....this is what Ron Paul says....DONT SIDE WITH ANYONE......we shouldnt be siding with India like we did with teh nuclear deal as

it antagonizes the other side....

besides have you heard the quote by samuel jackson "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" ...your country isnt an angel as it has been trying to

dominate their region and to do so has been staging false ops so quit with the BS....

Who are you to ask me to leave my passion for my country...I am from India...I have relatives back in India and I do have relatives who are now American
citizens...I havent asked for any sympathy,I just wanted to know what kind of response ppl in this forum would give,coz RP advocates a different kind of
foreign policy from the others....I got some responses echoing RP's policies...I got the truthers' responses...and then there is YOUR response...

Let me clear up a few things....I am not an Obama supporter...I simply hate the way he has fooled ppl not just in the US but around the world with the help
of his frnds in the media...I dont expect the US to intervene in an Indo-Pak relation...I heard about Ron paul first at a GATA-seminar,about his support for
the gold standard and then from a relative in the US and I got interested in his policies...I study US politics and economics...Your post shows how ignorant

you are about the India-Pakistan war...as far as your pathetic rant goes...stop watching FOX and CNN and start studying India-Pakistan post-independence
relations if you want to further comment on it...i have been seeing FOX and it is quite clear they are trying to scare americans with this chance...

"holiness of my country"???...where did I say that...whoa...buddy non-intervention also means respecting others countries but I forgive you for the comment since you seem to have zero-understanding of India's foreign policy...I dont support the LTTE's activities in Sri Lanka...the Indian govt doesnt...there are
a few who do sympathize out of regional fanaticism(yes,thats there in India unfortunately)...Indian army raping women and killing children and
protesters???...Boy that is outrageous...you seem to be reading the AlQaeda's monthly magazine...India is suffering because of Pakistan's encouragement of
grooming terrorism on its soil...

You sound like Obama...a stupid rant with no history or facts backing it up...
And...are you a mutt??...(when did I say that Musharaff is still the president...but there is a very good chance of another military coup on Zardari)
Stop watching michael moore's films and stop going around quoting samuel jackson by quoting in-appropriately...you're giving him a bad name...the only scoundrel here is you...and if any sympathy accidentally came out of you...plz take it back and shove it up your...

And BTW there was a great deal of opposition to the nuclear deal...I dont support it...it was passed by a 275-256 majority...about 50 MPs were BOUGHT by the governing party to pass it...a shame for India

And finally abt the Indian army...It is in fact mighty...I used the word mighty not to provoke anyone but to describe its strength when compared to the pakistani army in terms of troop numbers,navy combat,aerial-combat,weapons,tanks etc...google it...oops...i forgot that you dont like to read...And as far as curbing terrorism goes...the army has been stopped many a times in waging a full-scale attack on terrorism,they are on the defensive...have never been allowed to go the offensive and end this once and for all...the shackles on the army are bcoz of a number of reasons...part of it is US intervention,part of it is the policy of political parties which are scared of losing the muslim vote-bank...you know nothing abt it but still venture to comment on it and make unnecessary personal attacks...you'r a f***ing moron...I pity a non-interventionist movement that includes idiots like you
READ a post slowly and clearly,relax,THINK and then respons...ok?
Phew...what did i get into...ahh the words of the wise..."Don't argue with an ignorant fool, he will drag you down to his level"...I am stopping right now...

 

[Flash]

Funny that "Hindu extremists" never commit terrorism in Pakistan.

Muslims especially Pakistani ones are extremely radical. The Pakistani immigrants into certain European nations are also extremists.

 

[american empire]

how absurd ....what do you call your piece of junk...if not a rant...

btw you just didnt even talk about the Kashmir issue...which is vital for this mess...

labelling me an "obama"a "fox/cnn" watcher or even a #!@$# moron might make you feel better...and I am glad that I can help you ease the pain....

but last I remember the Kasmir territory was supposed to be a disputed area and ruled by a UN resolution to have a plebicite...the people of Kashmir according to your beloved google is ethinically muslim population and was supposed to go to Pakistan but was attacked by Indian troops and is still under occupation....

all I am saying is these are insurgents in Kashmir...they breed children who hate the Indian government who restrict their freedom....if you have occupation people will retaliate and other idiots will use this hate to kill people....

what I do want is the same amount of coverage when a tamil tiger blows his brains out killing more than 300 SriLankans...I bet the CNN and ffox will have a 5 minute peice much less than a three day extended coverage.....besides why dont the reporters there bring about the military and finacial support from India...

You dont want to talk about the Kashmir issue then dont rant....what defensive are you talking about...the military is patrolling the streets of Kashmir...what other offensive do you want....crescents on clothes to mark muslims and id numbers engraved on their skins?....if you mean go to war...well great thats always the answer to every problem ....killl more of the brain washed youth in the name of "protecting the mother land"...you should watch the movie All quiet on the western front....it shows how patriotism brainwashes you....but hey ill now be called a mutt for ranting....

so long and plese go enlist in the mighty "Indian " army....protect your country only to realize like everytime in history you have been used to make money for some the guys who lend money for wars...

 

[rsvforronpaul]

how absurd ....what do you call your piece of junk...if not a rant...

btw you just didnt even talk about the Kashmir issue...which is vital for this mess...

labelling me an "obama"a "fox/cnn" watcher or even a #!@$# moron might make you feel better...and I am glad that I can help you ease the pain....

I would call my post a fitting response...not a rant like yours...
I was actually feeling bad for my previous post...I looked at ur profile...400+ posts..."senior member" of the forum...and thought that maybe you reacted out of frustration and I shudnt have made that post...well..I was WRONG...and I am glad that I made that post...thank you for helping me ease my pain...I will continue easing my pain...talk what about Kashmir you moron....Kashmir belongs to India...with this post of urs,you just confirmed and reassured me that you know nothing about the Kashmir issue...your a ranting pathetic moron....with 400 posts of crap and junk

but last I remember the Kasmir territory was supposed to be a disputed area and ruled by a UN resolution to have a plebicite...the people of Kashmir according to your beloved google is ethinically muslim population and was supposed to go to Pakistan but was attacked by Indian troops and is still under occupation....

Kashmir attacked by Indian troops???...stop subscribing to the AlQaeda weekly buddy...UN resolution???...hello...is this the Ron Paul forum or the Neocon headquarters...Ron Paul wants a non-interventionist foreign policy...he doesnt support the UN resolutions(or even,nafta...he often reminds us of Mr.Republican Robert Taft who didnt even want the US to be in NATO...google Robert Taft...it wont hurt)... and maintains that everyone should respect a country's sovereignty...same applies to India...you are the wrong guy for this forum...obviously with whatever shitload of semi-neocon knowledge that you have...you might have wrongly felt that you are a ron paul supporter...sorry buddy...you should bailout...btw it never helps making fun of a useful tool(google)...learn to use it properly and you might actually gain some knowledge on vital issues and one day...may actually understand ron paul's foreign policy

And about Kashmir's population...kashmir had a lot of kashmiri pundits...it was found by Sage Kashyap...was ruled for many years by Hindu kings...before the muslim rulers invaded India...
http://www.geocities.com/narenp/history/history/kashmir.htm
the pandits after partition moved away because they were being attacked...they want to go back but cant...sadly only 5% constitute kasmiri pundits...and another message...
EARTH to MARS...
HUMAN to ALIEN...
Muslim does not equal Pakistan...just because there are areas with higher muslim population...doesnt mean they should goto Pakistan...India is a secular country...thats the beauty of the country...I agree that muslims are a minority...but they are a part of India...our Constitution clearly states that... and they add to India's diverse culture..consider this...if the african americans start a civil war again in the US and the UN passes a resolution asking part of the US with a high black population to be considered as a seperate union territory... are you ok with that...thats how fking stupid your argument is...your a pathetic fool...

all I am saying is these are insurgents in Kashmir...they breed children who hate the Indian government who restrict their freedom....if you have occupation people will retaliate and other idiots will use this hate to kill people....

You sound like an anarchist...ur applying the principles incorrectly and to inappropriate regions...So what do you suggest...give up kashmir which actually is a part of India??The stupidity of your argument increases when you make a longer post...keep it shorter and people may actually like you on this forum

what I do want is the same amount of coverage when a tamil tiger blows his brains out killing more than 300 SriLankans...I bet the CNN and ffox will have a 5 minute peice much less than a three day extended coverage.....besides why dont the reporters there bring about the military and finacial support from India...

why do you want coverage for the ltte...they are fighting an unjust war and are a threat to srilanka just like how the islamic terrorists are to India...when you know that cnn and fox dont cover anything that will not scare american people,thats good enuff...whats ur fing problem...India actually sent its military to help lanka and Prime minister Rajiv Gandhi was assasinated because of that...ahh...makes me wonder whether I am giving a good history lesson to an ignorant fag

You dont want to talk about the Kashmir issue then dont rant....what defensive are you talking about...the military is patrolling the streets of Kashmir...what other offensive do you want....crescents on clothes to mark muslims and id numbers engraved on their skins?....if you mean go to war...well great thats always the answer to every problem ....killl more of the brain washed youth in the name of "protecting the mother land"...you should watch the movie All quiet on the western front....it shows how patriotism brainwashes you....but hey ill now be called a mutt for ranting....

There you go with your provocative rants...patrolling your own streets when there is terrorist infiltration puts you on the defensive bcoz u are defending a piece of land that belongs to you...if the army enters PoK(google it...i am telling you what that means...do ur homework) and wipes out the terrorist camps for good which the Pakistan govt is not doing...that would be offense...putting crescents and ids on muslims??...haha...thats not INDIAN...thats not our culture
...stop reading Jihadi weeklys...I dont need to call you a mutt for your ranting...you are a mutt...i guess most people on the forum know it.
get this...the phony war has fucked your mind and you seem to be thinking that every war is bad...Just wars are to be fought...Iraq war is not a just war...an attack on Iran wouldnt be just...but India needs to finish this war on terrorism...on its own...War is good for a nation when it helps in protecting its national sovereignty,pride...dont be a fucking truther...be a Ron Paul republican...Ron Paul voted to go after Al Qaeda which Bush didnt do properly...stop watching michael moores movies buddy...again ur the ranter...better change ur profile name to american_ranter...lol...and I guess I have talked enough about Kashmir

so long and plese go enlist in the mighty "Indian " army....protect your country only to realize like everytime in history you have been used to make money for some the guys who lend money for wars...

I will enlist if my country needs me...India has always fought just wars to protect its national pride,security and sovereignty...I think the phony wars have got to your head...visit a psychiatrist...google for a good one.And BTW...patriotism in the right form is a good thing...dont watch movies that do too much damge to your brain.

 

[Chosen]

Theres enough bad news in the world that sometimes people just need to find a way to make light of the situation. Unfortunatly, its sometimes in bad taste.

This is very sad and shocking news with great potential for even more disaster in the "War on Terror". This means that not only is terrorism not declining, but that in turn, the great leaders of the world will need to "do more" to prevent this sort of thing from happening. ...and we all know what happens when leaders "do more to protect us"....

So, while in bad taste, it did make me chuckle.

Of course I am just joking and not insensitive to the tragedy.

Let's be honest here, do you think American tech support would have done something like this? That's right, it would not have happened.

I have studied this...I think this was the original plan:

sudo mv: tech_support_customers_in_hotel to /dev/null

However, the H1B terrorists did not have elevated privileges initially.

Then they tried:

killall tech_support_customers_in_hotel

They only found a few folks who were CHMOD'd to 777

The indian commandos figured this out eventually and entered:

sudo rm /dev/null
sudo mknod /dev/null c 1 3
sudo chmod 666 /dev/null

So in the end, as this was in escalation, the tier 4 tech support finally won. We just have to keep our eye on the H1B terror cells already here in the US.

 

[Chosen]

I just heard that Scotland Yard arrived and entered:

% ps aux | less

 

[M House]

Good Point, they need to get back to DOS. They could just search the directory and get to the bottom of this shit.

 

[FountainDew]

This is why the attacks in India happened(but of course main stream media does not know how to use google, rather they want fire and blood splashed all day across the screen)

This article from Sept. 18th

http://www.deccanherald.com/CONTENT/Sep152008/scroll2008091590090.asp?section=frontpagenews



They said they were going to target the Anti Terrorism Squad and they have killed its head. They said they were going to target local police and have killed the commissioner.

This is an internal India squable.

--Dustan

Excellent reply. This war between India has nothing to do with the US. They were fighting the Kashmire conflicts for a long time and blood from that struggle has never stopped dripping.

 

[FountainDew]

Seems like it was very well organized. Is the US next?

That is EXACTLY what the media wants you to think. When in all fact of the matter, the US is in no danger until it chooses a side in the conflict between Pakistan and India. The media loves feeding this unfounded terrorist shit to sheeple.

When the question of "Why did this attack happen?" Has a very specific answer. Like others have said, it is a reactionary response to the way India has slaughtered civilians (mostly Muslim) of Pakistan along the borders of Kashmire and is now terrorizing Muslims living inside India as well. Can anyone tell me what that has to do with the US? Nothing, that's what.