Indefinite detention amendment to be voted on soon [update: PASSED 67-29]

[tsai3904]

I think that's why Graham and McCain voted for this. Is this amendment really that good when it contains that provision?

No it's not that good. It all boils down to the court's interpretation of the Hamdi case.

 

[Brett85]

Demint voted the right way. That's good.

 

[JJ2]

I sure hope Rand remembers to hold this against Rubio in 2016.

 

[tsai3904]

This amendment isn't going to solve anything because it is ambiguous. However, we weren't expecting to repeal Section 1021 of NDAA anyways because the House didn't pass their amendment and there's no support for it in the Senate. This was just to get a debate and hopefully get more people to support it in the next Congress or have the courts rule on it.

 

[sailingaway]

tweeted https://twitter.com/usernamenuse/status/274353740822241281

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

It's small, but it's still an example of what bipartisanship can produce when it's for the right reason.

 

[1836]

Demint voted the right way. That's good.

DeMint cosponsored the amendment.

 

[1836]

And it's going to win

 

[Pisces]

Why did Graham change his vote?

Worried about being primaried? That clip of him from last year's NDAA debate where he shouts about not allowing detainees access to an attorney looks pretty bad. Maybe he and McCain are going to come up with another amendment to water this one down?

 

[tsai3904]

Worried about being primaried? That clip of him from last year's NDAA debate where he shouts about not allowing detainees access to an attorney looks pretty bad. Maybe he and McCain are going to come up with another amendment to water this one down?

No. Graham thinks this amendment authorizes indefinite detention. He didn't vote for it because he changed his views on detention.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

67-29: the amendment is adopted.

 

[Pisces]

No. Graham thinks this amendment authorizes indefinite detention. He didn't vote for it because he changed his views on detention.

But he didn't believe that before right? He was opposing it yesterday. Was the amendment changed today? I've been on the road most of the day today so I'm just catching up on this.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

67-29, the amendment is adopted.

 

[tsai3904]

But he didn't believe that before right? He was opposing it yesterday. Was the amendment changed today? I've been on the road most of the day today so I'm just catching up on this.

The amendment was not changed. He opposed it but Levin made an argument on the floor that this amendment authorizes indefinite detention and was able to change Graham's mind. They both still support indefinite detention though.

 

[Pisces]

The amendment was not changed. He opposed it but Levin made an argument on the floor that this amendment authorizes indefinite detention and was able to change Graham's mind. They both still support indefinite detention though.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[Spoa]

67-29, the amendment is adopted.

PASSED!!! I'm excited to see the official roll call vote.

 

[sailingaway]

The amendment was not changed. He opposed it but Levin made an argument on the floor that this amendment authorizes indefinite detention and was able to change Graham's mind. They both still support indefinite detention though.

It wasn't changed? I thought there was an amendment to it that Feinstein approved. No?

 

[tsai3904]

It wasn't changed? I thought there was an amendment to it that Feinstein approved. No?

I don't believe so because that clause they used for their argument was in the original amendment.

 

[sailingaway]

I don't believe so because that clause they used for their argument was in the original amendment.

ok, thanks.

 

[Pisces]

DId anyone hear how Cornyn and Hutchinson voted? Or is their a breakdown yet of who made up the yeas and nays?