If what's happening in Portland happened in 2013

[nikcers]

The CARES Act was ~$2 trillion of cash gifts and subsidized loans (many of which will become gifts).

Here's a nice visual representation of where the money went.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-anatomy-of-the-2-trillion-covid-19-stimulus-bill/

As for "tax cuts," the one's Trump's proposing (payroll), there's no such thing without spending cuts.

If he cuts the payroll tax, all that does is increase the inflation tax, since the lost revenue will be covered by Fed money printing.

The Trump checks were a tax credit. You are now conflating Obamas bail outs with the tax credit people who pay taxes received. It was a tax refund. Dont move the goalposts.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The Trump checks were a tax credit. You are now conflating Obamas bail outs with the tax credit people who pay taxes received. It was a tax refund. Dont move the goalposts.

Okay, nevermind.

Go Trump!

 

[TheCount]

The Trump stimulus is a tax credit. Why are you against tax cuts?

It's not a tax credit if people who didn't pay taxes can still get a check from the government.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Reminds me of the Ron Paul skit SNL did.

I was surprised that Rand Paul was standing with the rioters who had being rioting for 50 days. So Rand Paul doesn't want federal buildings to be protected?

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Rand still mowing his own lawn ?

 

[Anti Globalist]

I have no sympathy for these Leftists/Communists/Marxists. Conservatives and Libertarians warned these people about the police state for years and they never took it seriously. The only reason they seem to care now, is because this is happening to people of their political ideology, where as if this was happening to Conservatives and Libertarians, they'd be all for it. Then the Left tries to accuse us of being supporters of the police state, when we really aren't taking sides to either opposition. It's better to sit back and watch as these ginnygoats destroy each other.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I have no sympathy for these Leftists/Communists/Marxists. Conservatives and Libertarians warned these people about the police state for years and they never took it seriously. The only reason they seem to care now, is because this is happening to people of their political ideology, where as if this was happening to Conservatives and Libertarians, they'd be all for it. Then the Left tries to accuse us of being supporters of the police state, when we really aren't taking sides to either opposition. It's better to sit back and watch as these ginnygoats destroy each other.

owe ya a rep

 

[nikcers]

It's not a tax credit if people who didn't pay taxes can still get a check from the government.

? Most of it went to people who pay tax. I know you are splitting hairs here but what a joke. It was pretty much an across the board tax refund for most people and businesses that pay tax.

 

[Anti Globalist]

 

[TheCount]

? Most of it went to people who pay tax. I know you are splitting hairs here but what a joke. It was pretty much an across the board tax refund for most people and businesses that pay tax.

Of course it did; most people pay tax, and therefore most people who got it are tax payers. But what about everybody else?


Here's you saying the completely opposite thing just a couple of posts up in the thread:

The Trump checks were a tax credit. You are now conflating Obamas bail outs with the tax credit people who pay taxes received. It was a tax refund. Dont move the goalposts.

It can't be a tax refund if the person never paid taxes in the first place. The one splitting hairs is you.

I'm sorry that it hurts your feelings that Orange Daddy gave out bailouts the same way that Black Daddy did, but pretending otherwise to make yourself feel better is just sad.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'm sorry that it hurts your feelings that Orange Daddy gave out bailouts the same way that Black Daddy did,...

But you voted for Obama 2x and supported him. So why is this different?

 

[Pauls' Revere]

owe ya a rep

covered.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

I have no sympathy for these Leftists/Communists/Marxists. Conservatives and Libertarians warned these people about the police state for years and they never took it seriously. The only reason they seem to care now, is because this is happening to people of their political ideology, where as if this was happening to Conservatives and Libertarians, they'd be all for it. Then the Left tries to accuse us of being supporters of the police state, when we really aren't taking sides to either opposition. It's better to sit back and watch as these ginnygoats destroy each other.

^^this^^

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Many neocons have marxist backgrounds, so no surprise that neocons funded likud-republicans are taking strong lead to bring order and enforce freedoms by strong force. Who knows, this may boost the sinking morale a bit.

 

[jmdrake]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1285270380127629315

Good job Rand!

Should I oppose this measure because it's coming from the "wrong team"?


https://www.thenation.com/article/society/aoc-bill-federal-identification/

The "wrong team" are the people supporting the goon squad.

You should check it very carefully for poison pills.

I'll wait to see if Rand or Massie support it.

Donald Trump could end this shyt with the stoke of a pen.

My prayer:

Dear Lord. It's not too late. Please incapacitate both of the two old men currently in lead for the race for president. You don't have to end their lives. Just make it so that neither can legally serve as president and its obvious to everybody. Then let the country have enough sanity to draft Ron Paul to be president. I know this is a hella long shot but I'm desparate. Amen.

Edit: God's reply.

Remember how I said in Matthew and Revelation that things are going to go to hell in a handbasket before the end of time? Well....I keep My promises. Suck it up and get used to it. Love you! Coming to get you soon!

 

[jmdrake]

The CARES Act was ~$2 trillion of cash gifts and subsidized loans (many of which will become gifts).

Here's a nice visual representation of where the money went.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-anatomy-of-the-2-trillion-covid-19-stimulus-bill/

As for "tax cuts," the one's Trump's proposing (payroll), there's no such thing without spending cuts.

If he cuts the payroll tax, all that does is increase the inflation tax, since the lost revenue will be covered by Fed money printing.

Wow! Thanks for posting this. This deserves its own thread. Notice that only a fraction of the spending had anything to do with COVID-19. They could have taken one trillion, bought everybody PPE, and kept the economy open.

Notice how only a few weeks after the CDC reversed itself on masks there were masks all over the place? Free market for the win! The lying experts at the CDC and Dr. Fauci suppressed the free market response to the need for masks by declaring masks for the public verboden.

 

[nikcers]

Wow! Thanks for posting this. This deserves its own thread. Notice that only a fraction of the spending had anything to do with COVID-19. They could have taken one trillion, bought everybody PPE, and kept the economy open.

Notice how only a few weeks after the CDC reversed itself on masks there were masks all over the place? Free market for the win! The lying experts at the CDC and Dr. Fauci suppressed the free market response to the need for masks by declaring masks for the public verboden.

masks dont stop viruses that would of been a waste. Flu virus have killed 30x the amount of people in recent history and they have never found that masks would prevent or slow the spread of flu when studied.

 

[nikcers]

Of course it did; most people pay tax, and therefore most people who got it are tax payers. But what about everybody else?


Here's you saying the completely opposite thing just a couple of posts up in the thread:




It can't be a tax refund if the person never paid taxes in the first place. The one splitting hairs is you.

I'm sorry that it hurts your feelings that Orange Daddy gave out bailouts the same way that Black Daddy did, but pretending otherwise to make yourself feel better is just sad.

Some people get to not pay tax. I am not going to hate on them. I guess haters are gonna hate. To me the less tax the better.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

I'm sorry that it hurts your feelings that Orange Daddy gave out bailouts the same way that Black Daddy did, but pretending otherwise to make yourself feel better is just sad.

It does often but ideally skin pigments should not have a role in politics. Comments like this can also cause unneccessary controversies given what is going on in pop culture.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Wow! Thanks for posting this. This deserves its own thread. Notice that only a fraction of the spending had anything to do with COVID-19. They could have taken one trillion, bought everybody PPE, and kept the economy open.

Notice how only a few weeks after the CDC reversed itself on masks there were masks all over the place? Free market for the win! The lying experts at the CDC and Dr. Fauci suppressed the free market response to the need for masks by declaring masks for the public verboden.

They could have sent every unemployed person $1500/month for the year for less than a quarter of what the Please Vote For Me CARES Act cost.

...not that I'd favor that, but it would have been much less bad than what actually happened.

...nevermind what the Fed's done.