If what's happening in Portland happened in 2013

Why the hatred against libertarians? I don't see any jumping for joy over this.
 
It’s super mysterious why libertarians aren’t enraged about militarized state overreach on individual rights unless libertarianism was actually in the end mainly about white property owners not wanting any regulation or having to pay a lot of tax.

It's super mysterious why the left never get's onboard the side of Liberty and always reverts to race as a talking point, oh, and more taxes.

Besides, OR voted for this crap (see post #7) soooo guess what? I have no love lost for Oregon at all.

Let the Commies and Fascist bash each other.
 
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Lots of rioting and looting and a secret police force is arresting people.

People keep using that word ”secret". What exactly is secret about it when everyone knows about them, we know who they are with, we know they are tasked with protecting federal buildings, criminal suspects that they apprehended have been released, and cases and evidence turned over to the FBI.
 
He's right. Just because it's coming from a leftist doesn't make it wrong.
Libertarians SHOULD be freaking out about the Jacobin/Bolshevik mobs in Portland and they should cheer when law enforcement arrests them for crimes.
 
All these countless predictions about how the Patriot Act/indefinite detentions part of NDAA would be used against us, and then it is, and because it is orange man being a tyrant, it's apparently okay? I don't know. This should be time to join with everyone else who is horrified by what these two things have allowed for.

This is not only Trump but Trump is the one actually dictatorial enough to use the oppressive powers they were given and not just keep them in their back pocket.

The bright side is this:
People hate Trump. This could be a movement against these things that we have hated so long because so many people don't want someone like Trump to have those kind of powers.

Let's take advantage of people's hate of Trump to actually get them to care about liberty issues. How about it?

Am I reading this right? You are thinking that you could get Marxists to care about liberty issues? You can't possibly be thinking that Marxists would make good allies in the quest to increase liberty.
 
Am I reading this right? You are thinking that you could get Marxists to care about liberty issues? You can't possibly be thinking that Marxists would make good allies in the quest to increase liberty.
Trump is a much better liberty ally but he's not interested in him.

Leftarians have always had a secret crush on the far left and are always looking for any excuse to get into bed with them no matter how much damage it does to liberty.
 
Am I reading this right? You are thinking that you could get Marxists to care about liberty issues? You can't possibly be thinking that Marxists would make good allies in the quest to increase liberty.
Exactly. If these protests we're about liberty, ending police brutality, etc. BLM would have worked with Copblock, etc. But, No! They teamed with Antifa, told us to shut up, and ignored those issues and promoted commie nonsense while committing crimes.

NCLiberty is exactly correct in calling out The Count.
 
Oh, they're getting spooked by some feds shoving them into vans?

Its kind of like how Atheists cynically try to guilt Christians over not living up their Marxist interpretation of Jesus Christ, I do not take seriously the crocodile tears of violent insurrectionists over their deprivation of "constitutional rights" whatever they think those are here. What part of the constitution or libertarian principles allows looting, arson, destruction of private property amounting in the billions, the armed occupation of interstates/neighborhoods/cities, the assault/rape/murder of innocent people, and all the other wonders of Maoist Cultural Revolution? The entire reason the state exists is to protect us from people like this, I do not care about their false equivalencies and veiled threats of retribution about "when the shoe is on the other foot". These same people have been calling liberty minded people terrorists for decades and now they expect them to rush to their defense? The tyranny of "Karens" wanting to get haircuts, to send their kids to school, to return to work, to not be forced fed mandatory vaccines & masking is "domestic terrorist" in their minds but these Antifa/BLM freaks are "peaceful protesters" being unfairly oppressed by the state? Give me a fucking break. I'm tired of their Brownshirt-like attempts at intimidation, I'm tired of them always playing the victim, I'm tired of the constant gaslighting, I'm tired of them. As far as I'm concerned they can go to hell, in the progressive communist utopia they wish to force upon us protesters would be lined up against a wall and shot for far less.

Furthermore, rioters who claimed they "didn't do anything" need to understand that it doesn't matter if they didn't personally shine the laser or throw the Moltov cocktail because the entire purpose of them being there is to give cover to the ones that are. That's black bloc tactics 101 and the people organizing these people aren't likely they ones getting their hands dirty, that's for expendable foot soldiers but they are just as guilty if not more.
 
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He's right. Just because it's coming from a leftist doesn't make it wrong.

Why aren't Oregonians more outraged that their Democrat representatives voted for the NDAA? Then act surprised when they show up on your doorstep? and rail at Libertarians for not being outraged?

His point about Federal Law Enforcement isn't wrong, he needs to place the blame where it belongs.

They piss in the wind and tell me its raining on them. Come to think of it, maybe that's why it rains so much there.
 
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Why aren't Oregonians more outraged that their Democrat representatives voted for the NDAA? Then act surprised when they show up on your doorstep? and rail at Libertarians for not being outraged?

His point about Federal troops isn't wrong, he needs to place the blame where it belongs.

They piss in the wind and tell me its raining on them. Come to think of it, maybe that's why it rains so much there.

It's not federal troops, it's federal law enforcement.
 
Decent article here: https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/...t-becomes-a-national-story?wallit_nosession=1

Protesters have been going for 50 straight days & involves Federal buildings & Courthouse. I see a blurry line between Feds taking back their property & individual right to protest . I’m sure some of the protest are just criminals

From picture of article I posted their is graffiti in Federal Courthouse & I wonder if this building has been closed because of protests

Interesting sh*t show
 
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