I find it hard not to call non-Ron Paul supporters stupid.

It's years of Brainwashing but concentrate on those whose ears and eyes are partially open. I made it through 9 of 12 pages of cold calling in my precinct and only got into 1 debate just to keep my skills honed but it's very exhausting.

My precinct did 6.44% vs FL's 3.whatever.

Nicodemus was a big-time Pharisee but eventually he saw the Light!
 
It's years of Brainwashing but concentrate on those whose ears and eyes are partially open. I made it through 9 of 12 pages of cold calling in my precinct and only got into 1 debate just to keep my skills honed but it's very exhausting.

My precinct did 6.44% vs FL's 3.whatever.

Nicodemus was a big-time Pharisee but eventually he saw the Light!

here it is, difficult, and not impossible!
 
I converse with many citizens of foreign countries who have been following the campaign with much interest . They all tell me how fortunate we are and that they would love to have such a leader for their country . In fact there are about 30 meet up groups consisting of these foreigners that can't even vote . Some have offered to send me money to donate on their behalf . I don't dare lest it cause problems for his campaign .

The entire World is watching
 
It's kinda like the stockholm syndrome. After being beat down, tortured, taxed to the hilt, suppressed, beat down some more, you begin to enjoy the status quo, and people in this belief system and mind frame fall victim to how things can't possibly change, they have always been like this, so I will vote for the status quo/media candidate. To them it is comforting, and no amount of rationalization can break this thought process. That my friends is the unfortunate mind-set of the majority of Americans. It's a sick self-fulfilled prophecy. The utter hatred, contempt, and irrational fear I have seen around this election from people all around says more about the human condition than it does about Ron Paul's message. People prefer to be led over freedom. Doesn't matter who is leading, as long as they are being led. If we want real change, you have to deprogram people from a reality they have been living in their entire lives, not this illusion we have today, but alas, the illusion will soon be shattered, and I fear only then will the people fully realize what transpired, and only then will the real revolution begin.
 
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unfortunately, i think the stockholm syndrome idea is true. how do people get out of that?
 
As long as i can remember, ive always said that the THREE things stupid people SHOULD NOT DO yet they do at alarming amounts are the following :

Breed

Drive

Vote

Its amazng that people have these rights just as equal as the educated

LOL, and we are desperately fighting to preserve those rights. :D
 
Ron Paul did well in university towns. Ames Iowa area. On berkeley Campus we won 45% of GOP voters.

We are not paultards.
 
I know some one made a huge thread about how Ron Paul evangelicals are just like the Jesus zombie evangelicals. Rude, disrespectful, judgemental. But when I hear reasons people won't vote for him I have no choice but to come up with that conclusion.

Some one here posted that he talked to some guy about Ron Paul. The guy was super pissed about the border mess. The guy knew very well that McCain not only did nothing to help it, but actually made it much worse. The guy didn't like McCain at all and considered him another sell out political lobby prostitute. Yet still he voted McCain because he was a "war hero". That is after a detailed outline of Ron Paul's positions, his stand on the illegal alien issue, stripping illegal aliens' kids of the citizenship birthright, everything and after actually agreeing that Ron Paul is better.

Whenever I rebuttal people's objections to Ron Paul and I keep getting more and more objections, I see that people are actually looking for an excuse not to vote for him. Even if they see that he is right and he is the man to vote and agree 110% with him, they say "Oh he won't accopmlish anything", and decide to vote for some one else, often the very person who they know won't accomplish anything, either and is just a power hungry politician bribing or scaring them into voting for him.

So, in conclusion, I understand that we can't be acting like some psychotic zealots when it comes to Ron Paul, but I can't help it. People who know everything about Ron Paul there is to know and still don't support him are hopelessly stupid and they deserve Bush, inflation, illegals with their drug dealing and gangbanging, more lies, more blatant "we know you won't do nothing" corruption, more devalued dollar, higher taxes and a big bar code on their forehead because Osama and Democrats hate us for our freedom.

Lets look at why this is. Some people want to figure things out on their own by assessing media data. Over their dead body will they change their opinion over what you say. This is the real tragedy, people like this are given no chance to support Paul because it is so hard to find out the hidden truth on your own.
 
Here is another pearl of wisdom from Neal Boortz:

Boortz said:
This for all of you "die-hard Reagan Republicans" out there ... you know, the ones who are acting like you're not going to support John McCain in this year's election .. and who may even sit this one out. By now you should have heard about McCain's speech yesterday before CPAC. Here are just some of the things McCain said he would do:

Continue to carry the fight to the Islamic radicals and goons wherever we can get to them.
Close the borders .. tight .. before any consideration is given as to what to do with the illegals who are already here.
Not sign a bill with earmarks in it. ANY earmarks in it.
Reduce the size of government.
Not allow the expansion of entitlement programs
Make the Bush tax cuts permanent
Cut corporate tax rates.
End AMT
Develop free market solutions for health care, and respect for the right of free individuals to make choices for themselves.

I don't know, but that sounds like a fairly good conservative platform for me. Sure, there are things that I, as a Libertarian, would change. For instance, not only would I block the expansion of entitlement programs, I would start a rollback. Making the Bush tax cuts permanent would not be enough .. there's the FairTax. And then there's my idea for a 10th Amendment Commission .. and I would like to see the systematic elimination of all government schools, beginning with transferring power to local governments and mandating voucher and school choice programs as a prerequisite for any school to get any federal government money at all.

But .. McCain is the guy. He's going to be the nominee unless something really bizarre happens. If you don't support his candidacy .. if you sit out the election .. just how much influence do you think you are going to have during his presidency? That is ...if your actions don't put Hideous Hillary in office.

Now, how am I supposed to read this and not call this stupid. Why would I ever believe a single word McCain is saying, especially after what he did on the illegal immigration issue? Why would some body talk about "systematic elimination of government schools and then dismiss Ron Paul, the only person who wants to do away with DOE, as a "terrorist sympathizer".

Yes, I know, Neil Boortz, who cares, he is a dumb shock jock, but a lot of people think exactly like this. They choose McCain after being promised that he'll do exactly what he has never done and shows no evidence of intending to do.

arrgh
 
i dont know where i found it, i'll have to see if i can again, but there was a study done showing that a biased mind actually 'rewards' itself when it ignores the truth when it's heard.

sort of like a shot of heroin to a junkie really, the brain emits certain chemicals to give the person a 'rush' when they are faced with undeniable truth, yet deny it and rationalize their way around it.

that, my friends, is one scary study.
 
I know some one made a huge thread about how Ron Paul evangelicals are just like the Jesus zombie evangelicals. Rude, disrespectful, judgemental. But when I hear reasons people won't vote for him I have no choice but to come up with that conclusion.

Some one here posted that he talked to some guy about Ron Paul. The guy was super pissed about the border mess. The guy knew very well that McCain not only did nothing to help it, but actually made it much worse. The guy didn't like McCain at all and considered him another sell out political lobby prostitute. Yet still he voted McCain because he was a "war hero". That is after a detailed outline of Ron Paul's positions, his stand on the illegal alien issue, stripping illegal aliens' kids of the citizenship birthright, everything and after actually agreeing that Ron Paul is better.

Whenever I rebuttal people's objections to Ron Paul and I keep getting more and more objections, I see that people are actually looking for an excuse not to vote for him. Even if they see that he is right and he is the man to vote and agree 110% with him, they say "Oh he won't accopmlish anything", and decide to vote for some one else, often the very person who they know won't accomplish anything, either and is just a power hungry politician bribing or scaring them into voting for him.

So, in conclusion, I understand that we can't be acting like some psychotic zealots when it comes to Ron Paul, but I can't help it. People who know everything about Ron Paul there is to know and still don't support him are hopelessly stupid and they deserve Bush, inflation, illegals with their drug dealing and gangbanging, more lies, more blatant "we know you won't do nothing" corruption, more devalued dollar, higher taxes and a big bar code on their forehead because Osama and Democrats hate us for our freedom.
Amen brother!
 
I was just talking about how people have been suppressed by the government for so long, freedom scares them. When they see a chance to be free they are like a bird who has always been caged with the door left open. They either won't fly out or if they do, they'll fly right back because they know nothing except the caged life.
 
i dont know where i found it, i'll have to see if i can again, but there was a study done showing that a biased mind actually 'rewards' itself when it ignores the truth when it's heard.

sort of like a shot of heroin to a junkie really, the brain emits certain chemicals to give the person a 'rush' when they are faced with undeniable truth, yet deny it and rationalize their way around it.

that, my friends, is one scary study.

That study was actually a study on the certainty of correctness. More often then not, agnostic people, people who were not 100% sure, but were confident and capable of changing their mind who vastly more correct about issues than people who were 100% certain about them. In other words, another chalk mark for the willfully ignorant in their exploration of vast stupidity. More people in America are so f**king sure of themselves... that is the problem. People need to question themselves and their cherished ideologies, even if they don't change their minds, people should be open to listening.
 
That study was actually a study on the certainty of correctness. More often then not, agnostic people, people who were not 100% sure, but were confident and capable of changing their mind who vastly more correct about issues than people who were 100% certain about them. In other words, another chalk mark for the willfully ignorant in their exploration of vast stupidity. More people in America are so f**king sure of themselves... that is the problem. People need to question themselves and their cherished ideologies, even if they don't change their minds, people should be open to listening.

That's a really interesting statement. I would love to read the study. Any idea where I might find it or what key word I could google to pull it up?
 
There's no reason to vote against your principals in the primaries. The general election is when you get to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Did you point out that ron paul is also a veteran? Not only that, ron paul doesn't have veteran organizations that hate his guts.
 
how did WE fail to get brainwashed? better diet? fewer phamaceuticals? less television?

i think it was a dose of healthy paranoia somewhere early in our lives.

in order to understand why Ron Paul must be president, one must understand that our 'leaders' don't have our best interests in mind, that collusion does exist, and that we're better off with freedom than government enforced security.

Most people don't understand freedom. Most people believe freedom is the freedom to choose between Brand A and Brand B.
 
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