I am tired of being called a racist

[newyearsrevolution08]

Most people call someone a racist have never studied racism and actually have no clue what it is. It's like calling someone a Marxist, when you've never read the Communist Manifesto.

or telling someone not to fly a flag because it MIGHT cause an issue. Sounds so libertarian. We need to stop doing ANYTHING that MIGHT cause SOMEONE to think down on you based on their own personal issues.

 

[Kludge]

or telling someone not to fly a flag because it MIGHT cause an issue. Sounds so libertarian. We need to stop doing ANYTHING that MIGHT cause SOMEONE to think down on you based on their own personal issues.

Woohoo! Stormfront flag with a Ron Paul sign!

Praise Jesus, I see the Wonkette articles now, and when MSNBC reports on it, I'll just laugh at their inability to understand just how libertarian racism is!

ha ha ha.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Woohoo! Stormfront flag with a Ron Paul sign!

Praise Jesus, I see the Wonkette articles now, and when MSNBC reports on it, I'll just laugh at their inability to understand just how libertarian racism is!

ha ha ha.

yup because a flag does mean racism....

should we all sport "obama" patches so people can know we are not racist either?

Maybe always have a black friend around just so people don't assume the worst of us?

lol....

stretchin it a bit.

racism isn't libertarian BUT libertarians respect OTHERS rights to believe as they choose so long as it does not infringe on their own liberties.

 

[Kludge]

racism isn't libertarian BUT libertarians respect OTHERS rights to believe as they choose so long as it does not infringe on their own liberties.

I respect your right to believe in what you believe, that doesn't mean it isn't bullshit to be called out at every opportunity, and it certainly doesn't protect you from attacks on your character for believing in bullshit.

People associate you with what you associate yourself with, which means the Ron Paul movement is being associated with bullshit when the Confederate flag is being used to represent you.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

I respect your right to believe in what you believe, that doesn't mean it isn't bullshit to be called out at every opportunity, and it certainly doesn't protect you from attacks on your character for believing in bullshit.

People associate you with what you associate yourself with, which means the Ron Paul movement is being associated with bullshit when the Confederate flag is being used to represent you.

your opinion indeed

So if I hang out with someone who LOOKS like a gangster than I should odds are NOT hang out with him because he might make OTHERS look down on me?

Maybe not hang out with gay people because people might ASSume something of me in that respect as well?

I think you worry too much about what other people think of you. What would happen if people thought you were something you really were not? What would really happen? they talk behind your back and you do what? maybe go on with your life because you odds are would never see the "closeminded" people again?

 

[Kludge]

your opinion indeed

So if I hang out with someone who LOOKS like a gangster than I should odds are NOT hang out with him because he might make OTHERS look down on me?

Maybe not hang out with gay people because people might ASSume something of me in that respect as well?

I think you worry too much about what other people think of you. What would happen if people thought you were something you really were not? What would really happen? they talk behind your back and you do what? maybe go on with your life because you odds are would never see the "closeminded" people again?

Now you're just being emo...

OF COURSE I CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME, because I seek to use other people. I seek to spread a message, and I don't want it tainted with nonverbal communication which will be associated with my message. People are very important when they decide our fate.

If I walk around with my pants hanging below my ass and hair in my eyes, people are going to wonder if I'm a gay prison parolee, and rightfully so, because that's the connotative message given by the clothes. In contemporary use, clothes aren't something to keep your genitals warm so much as they're a mechanism to tell people about you or to use for displaying your opinion on something.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

your opinion indeed

So if I hang out with someone who LOOKS like a gangster than I should odds are NOT hang out with him because he might make OTHERS look down on me?

Maybe not hang out with gay people because people might ASSume something of me in that respect as well?

I think you worry too much about what other people think of you. What would happen if people thought you were something you really were not? What would really happen? they talk behind your back and you do what? maybe go on with your life because you odds are would never see the "closeminded" people again?

Stubborn racist! Anti-social gangster! No man is an island!

Now you're just being emo...

OF COURSE I CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME, because I seek to use other people. I seek to spread a message, and I don't want it tainted with nonverbal communication which will be associated with my message. People are very important when they decide our fate.

If I walk around with my pants hanging below my ass and hair in my eyes, people are going to wonder if I'm a gay prison parolee, and rightfully so, because that's the connotative message given by the clothes. In contemporary use, clothes aren't something to keep your genitals warm so much as they're a mechanism to tell people about you or to use for displaying your opinion on something.

Machiavellian con man! Dangerous radical! Phony pretender!

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Racist! Anti-social gangster! No man is an island!

I couldn't find a "Crying Emoticon" so that is the best I could do lol.


wait found something better, I can now self sooth

 

[BlackTerrel]

The KKK and the CSA have nothing to do with one another.

Yes, I am proud of my Southern Heritage, and I shouldn't have to apologize for someone other person's ignorance of history, and simply taking what the government propaganda center near you preaches as fact.

What are you proud of? And are you more proud of being Southern than of being American? Have you ever met anyone who flew a Northern flag or said they were proud to be Northern.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

What are you proud of? And are you more proud of being Southern than of being American? Have you ever met anyone who flew a Northern flag or said they were proud to be Northern.

Isn't that technically what we all are now since the south lost? so aren't we still flying the northern flag?

I don't see why forgetting the past is needed. I still love the 1776 flag and love the confederate flag as well. I like that flag more for that "Rebel" reasoning plus it looks cool. My family is from Alabama among many other places. I think all the versions of the various state and national flags are pretty cool.

 

[BlackTerrel]

your opinion indeed

So if I hang out with someone who LOOKS like a gangster than I should odds are NOT hang out with him because he might make OTHERS look down on me?

Maybe not hang out with gay people because people might ASSume something of me in that respect as well?

I think you worry too much about what other people think of you. What would happen if people thought you were something you really were not? What would really happen? they talk behind your back and you do what? maybe go on with your life because you odds are would never see the "closeminded" people again?

I'm going to paraphrase Dave Chapelle here for a second. Do you realize how dumb all this sounds?

What if I decide to dress in a police officer's uniform and then when someone was being attacked they came to me for help and I acted offended and said "oh excuse me, just because I dress like a police officer doesn't mean I'm a police officer"

You can dress however you want and fly whatever flag you want but don't bitch about it then when people assume you're a racist because of it.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

I'm going to paraphrase Dave Chapelle here for a second. Do you realize how dumb all this sounds?

What if I decide to dress in a police officer's uniform and then when someone was being attacked they came to me for help and I acted offended and said "oh excuse me, just because I dress like a police officer doesn't mean I'm a police officer"

You can dress however you want and fly whatever flag you want but don't bitch about it then when people assume you're a racist because of it.

I saw that comedy special as well. Got to love Dave, I dig chris rock a bit more though. Both play some bad ass characters in movies

Once again, if you actually read my response to anyone who would ever consider me a racist has already been stated in this thread. I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about me and find it sad that so many in here really do.

Maybe re-read the thread to see other statements just like mine as well as plenty more worried about what others think about them then worrying about shit that actually needs to be worried about.

If you dress however you want and others look at you differently then that is on THEM not you. That is something wrong with THEM and their prejudices and if you can't see that then I don't think I can clear it up much more than that.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Irony: A combination of circumstances or a result that is the opposite of what is expected or might be considered appropriate: Websters unabridged dictionary

i.e. Like when I walk into a grocery store and see an African-American female wearing a shirt which states "Property of Barack Obama 2008"

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Irony: A combination of circumstances or a result that is the opposite of what is expected or might be considered appropriate: Websters unabridged dictionary

i.e. Like when I walk into a grocery store and see an African-American female wearing a shirt which states "Property of Barack Obama 2008"

that is pretty funny

or an albino wearing a "kill whitey" tshirt maybe?

 

[Danke]

I'm going to paraphrase Dave Chapelle here for a second. Do you realize how dumb all this sounds?

What if I decide to dress in a police officer's uniform and then when someone was being attacked they came to me for help and I acted offended and said "oh excuse me, just because I dress like a police officer doesn't mean I'm a police officer"

You can dress however you want and fly whatever flag you want but don't bitch about it then when people assume you're a racist because of it.

Non sequitur.

Wearing a police officers uniform is fairly defined. The civil war was not (initially) about slavery. Most in the south, including many blacks, fought and were not slave owners.

The flag may be seen as representing the lost cause of preserving slavery, but the facts speak otherwise.

So just because some are ignorant of the facts surrounding the civil war, the southerners should give up a symbol that to them represents independence?

GMFB.

I am a Northerner where many from my land fought for the Union. I can realize they were wrong in their actions.

 

[Elwar]

 

[lucius]

I am being called a racist more now than before the election.
The Obamabots are really playing the race card hard.
Everything I say negative about Obama they just throw down the race card.

Robert Jay Lifton, in his classic text on thought control in totalitarian China, discussed the "thought-terminating cliché" as a tactic to ensure conformity. He spoke of compressing "far-reaching and complex problems" into "brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases" that prevent real analysis. Racist has been reduced to just such a thought-terminating cliché.

It is good to read the cryptocracy's playbook:

Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of Brainwashing in China

 

[CUnknown]

I am so sick of Obama already. He hasn't even been sworn in yet.

My Dad was watching PBS the other day and they were just fawning over Obama's picks for his National security team. It was disgusting. There were three commentators and all of them said variations on "Oh, I just love the people he's picked! I want to have his babies!" I wanted to puke. Can't they have someone who disagrees, even a little?

And they were saying nonsense like, "Obama's going to bring change, that's why he's picked the people he has. He also needs stability, and the people will bring that, too." Aren't change and stability opposites??? And how can the people bring "change" when they are all long time Democrat and Repub insiders?? For God sakes, Gates was picked by BUSH. He's not going to bring change. And Hillary? Yeah, she just screams change. Have they forgotten that she is related to a certain former President?

I wanted to strangle them. Just be honest and say "Well, it looks like as soon as Obama was elected, he totally abandoned any pretense of bringing change, but that is good, because all us commentators like the way things are. We think his team is top notch."

You can say his team is great, you can say they are all talented, you can say they bring experience, dedication, competance, stability, blah blah blah... but don't say they also bring change.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Robert Jay Lifton, in his classic text on thought control in totalitarian China, discussed the "thought-terminating cliché" as a tactic to ensure conformity. He spoke of compressing "far-reaching and complex problems" into "brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases" that prevent real analysis. Racist has been reduced to just such a thought-terminating cliché.

It is good to read the cryptocracy's playbook:

Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of Brainwashing in China

http://books.google.com/books?id=FU...a=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPP1,M1

 

[Nirvikalpa]

You are probably dealing with mentally challenged people.

Try this: Agree with everything Obama says, exaggerate it so much that his policies sound pretty ridiculous.

It's called reductio ad absurdum and it works marvelously.