I am voting for Trump.

[CaptUSA]

But we see a white pill just the other side of the crash. Either we're not making people see it, or they just can't believe it can come out so well...

Evidence, man! Evidence. What makes you think there's good on the other side of the crash? Because I have children and grandchildren. The evidence (and history) is telling me that the power structures will use any crash to further clamp down, further steal the wealth, further censor, and further restrict liberty. It seems like you're hoping for that to push people to fight back harder?

I prefer the Massie approach - take the wins where you can get them and hold on while people get braver.

 

[acptulsa]

And that's why we can't have nice things.

I'm not saying I'm right and you two are wrong. What I'm saying is, that's why the human race can't have nice things. Like Republicans, we'd rather preserve hell and our place in it than take a leap.

Don't have evidence. Do have this:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It's a strange psyop that convinces anyone that Trump is such a Guard, given his record.

 

[CaptUSA]

It's a strange psyop that convinces anyone that Trump is such a Guard, given his record.

Yeah, hard to argue with that. You know I'm not a Trump fan whatsoever.

But he's also a mixed bag. We all know the horrible picks, but we did get some decent nominations from him too. Nothing like that will happen under the regime puppets.

 

[Theocrat]

Trump is Pro-Death When It Comes to the Middle East

That's fine, complain about Israel all you want. Join me in asking to defund foreign aid to all countries (not just Israel).

However the idea that this is a single-issue for you to not vote for Trump, when you know they are going to fund Israel no matter which one gets elected, is kinda ridiculous all considering.

How about the guy who is going to negotiate peace in Israel and Ukraine? Who wants to bring our troops home and end wars because he "wants the dying to stop", while the other candidate goes on about how we need to keep funding Ukraine and having more people killed so they can beat Russia..

It's a single issue which is connected to a network of other positions. That single issue is pro-life. To be pro-life means that you care for the preservation of innocent life both inside and outside of the womb, and that incorporates the prohibition of conflicts and wars which will lead to the unnecessary, if not, unethical, termination of civilians who have nothing to do with posing a national threat. It has been shown countless times that the nation-state of Israel is using certain events to justify a campaign of genocide towards an ethnic/national group of people who are not terrorists.

As a Christian, I'm against any candidate who will support another nation killing my people (that is, Palestinian Christians) for political and religious reasons. Trump's unadulterated support of Israel offsets his commitment to end the conflict over in Ukraine and Russia, even if he claims, "I just want the dying to stop." He wants to stop the killing of Ukrainian and Russian lives, but he's okay with Palestinians (and even Israelis) being killed because "Israel needs to be feared by her enemies again."

Therefore, as a "sInGlE-iSsUe VoTeR," I feel justified in not supporting Trump at all, and I'm sick and tired of people like you trying to justify "voting for the lesser of two evils."

 

[Anti Globalist]

Great idea. Vote for a guy whose goal is to destroy the GOP and is secretly working with the Democrats to destroy this nation.

 

[acptulsa]

It's a single issue which is connected to a network of other positions. That single issue is pro-life. To be pro-life means that you care for the preservation of innocent life both inside and outside of the womb...

And it's not just about war. He financed the jab and has never renounced it. I don't care if it's politically expedient or not. They're still pushing that jab in television commercials you and I are paying for. Anyone who can't stand up against it I have no use for.

 

[TheCount]

Right, let's just ignore that the Iranian regime and its proxy terrorists started the war against us and SA long ago.

When?

 

[69360]

Everyone has their reasons and they are valid. Mine is that I don't think Harris has the gravitas to represent the US on a world stage. For instance shit is about to hit the fan big time if Ukraine is given storm shadows and launches them into Russia. Could she handle that situation? I think not. I don't like Trump personally one bit. But I think he is capable.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And that's why we can't have nice things.

I'm not saying I'm right and you two are wrong. What I'm saying is, that's why the human race can't have nice things. Like Republicans, we'd rather preserve hell and our place in it than take a leap.

Don't have evidence. Do have this:

It's a strange psyop that convinces anyone that Trump is such a Guard, given his record.

His record is just what you said it was: that of a NYC "moderate" democrat.

 

[Theocrat]

Trump is Pro-Pharma

And it's not just about war. He financed the jab and has never renounced it. I don't care if it's politically expedient or not. They're still pushing that jab in television commercials you and I are paying for. Anyone who can't stand up against it I have no use for.

Yes, that's another aspect of being pro-life. Trump believed all the lies that the vaccines were safety-tested, that they were 100% effective against COVID-19, and, most egregiously, that he was responsible for the success of getting the vaccines out through "Operation Warp Speed." He gambled with the lives of desperate Americans, and like you've said, to this day, he prides himself in getting the vaccines pushed through.

 

[dannno]

Yes, that's another aspect of being pro-life. Trump believed all the lies that the vaccines were safety-tested, that they were 100% effective against COVID-19, and, most egregiously, that he was responsible for the success of getting the vaccines out through "Operation Warp Speed." He gambled with the lives of desperate Americans, and like you've said, to this day, he prides himself in getting the vaccines pushed through.

RFK Jr endorsed him and will be in his admin.

 

[acptulsa]

RFK Jr... will be in his admin.

Says who?

Trump, who isn't known for keeping what campaign promises he does make, hasn't even promised that. Who convinced you it's going to happen? Does Tim Pool pick cabinets now?

 

[69360]

If Trump really wants to win this thing, he needs to stop banging Laura Loomer and focus on things voters really care about like the economy. Apparently Loomer is responsible for that debate shitshow. When a nutcase like MTG says somebody is a racist, you know there is a problem.

 

[dannno]

Says who?

Trump, who isn't known for keeping what campaign promises he does make, hasn't even promised that. Who convinced you it's going to happen? Does Tim Pool pick cabinets now?

Did you watch the video segment I posted earlier?

 

[dannno]

If Trump really wants to win this thing, he needs to stop banging Laura Loomer and focus on things voters really care about like the economy. Apparently Loomer is responsible for that debate shitshow. When a nutcase like MTG says somebody is a racist, you know there is a problem.

Laura Loomer said something about the White House smelling like curry if Kamala is President.

I don't know why she said that, but isn't the worst thing in the world. Curry smells pretty good.

 

[acptulsa]

Did you watch the video segment I posted earlier?

Yes.

He didn't say what you think he said. I don't care what Tim Pool thinks he said. I actually listened to what he said, and he didn't say that.

You celebrity worshippers will fill in any gaps with whatever you want to hear, but aren't hearing. The only thing y'all do quicker is toss what they do say and do, but you don't want to hear, out the other ear.

Yo. He made it sound like he was going to appoint RFKJr. as some kind of special counsel. He didn't promise it, but said something along those lines.

Do you think Leon Jaworski was "in" the Nixon "administration"?

Some conspiracy theorists are the most gullible people on earth. And just what the psyop ordered.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You say this because you don't understand that Biden's inflation was kickstarted by Trumps 8trillion deficit, you don't understand that Biden's vaccine mandates were made possible by Trump's fast tracking, and you don't understand that not even Biden tried gun control by fiat because it was that contrary to the function of the entire system.

Bunk, Trump was put in a terrible position and had his hand forced, but he did what he could to limit the damage.
Biden poured gasoline on the fire.

Biden and O'Bummer etc. didn't try gun control by fiat because they knew it would backfire, Trump also knew it would backfire and that's why he did it with a gimmick accessory.
Trump's deliberate overreach is leading to the rollback of vast swathes of gun control and other regulations.

And you are also cherry picking issues and ignoring all the good things Trump was able to accomplish.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Exactly - and those small victories are why none of the frogs notice they're in the pot. I'm tired of trying to convince them. Only turning up the heat will do it.

Nonsense.
The number of small victories that Trump provides remind the frog that the water didn't used to be so hot, and the frog starts demanding that the temperature should continue to drop.

 

[acptulsa]

Bunk, Trump was put in a terrible position and had his hand forced, but he did what he could to limit the damage.
Biden poured gasoline on the fire.

Can you explain how that could possibly come out looking like this?

Remember, kiddies, the FY2021 omnibus was signed by the sitting president on December 27, 2020...

https://www.ncsl.org/state-federal/fy-2021-omnibus-appropriations-bill

And you are also cherry picking issues...

You complain about people cherry picking issues. But every thread can't be about every issue, not even when you really, really want to change the subject. Meanwhile, you cherry pick facts. That doesn't exactly situate you on any kind of moral high ground.

 

[dannno]

Yes.

He didn't say what you think he said. I don't care what Tim Pool thinks he said. I actually listened to what he said, and he didn't say that.

You celebrity worshippers will fill in any gaps with whatever you want to hear, but aren't hearing. The only thing y'all do quicker is toss what they do say and do, but you don't want to hear, out the other ear.

Yo. He made it sound like he was going to appoint RFKJr. as some kind of special counsel. He didn't promise it, but said something along those lines.

Do you think Leon Jaworski was "in" the Nixon "administration"?

Some conspiracy theorists are the most gullible people on earth. And just what the psyop ordered.

I'm listening to what RFK Jr and Tulsi are saying.. they are backing Trump, not lightly, and they are doing it for a reason. Because they have been promised something. Nobody is holding a gun to their head.

I'll take their word over yours, thank you very much.