I am Pro-Ron Paul but don't see what's wrong with the NAU/NAFTA Superhighway?

[spiteface]

In addition:

These highways will connect to new deep water ports being constructed to receive Communist Chinese ships in Mexico. Many Commie Chinese goods evade US tax through a loophole if they are shipped via Mexico.

We're supposed to be listing the bad points. If I can make a trade with a chinese person without the greedy US government getting their hands in on it I call that a good thing. What do you call it?

 

[torchbearer]

Like I said, please back up your statements. I don't see how we lose our sovereignty from it.

To organize a three country partnership, there will be some kind of governing board that is above those governments, creating a super-government that is not bound to the constituion, and is given the authority to enforce "free trade" and whatever agenda 2/3s want to lay on the other.
In other words... its the last nail in the coffin of the U.S. constitution.

 

[sparebulb]

We're supposed to be listing the bad points. If I can make a trade with a chinese person without the greedy US government getting their hands in on it I call that a good thing. What do you call it?

I call it you providing comfort and support to a Communist Chinese regime with disregard to the realities of unfair trade policies that disadvantage your fellow American worker. Other than that, I'm all for fair and open trade.

 

[Menthol Patch]

What is bad about it? Why shouldn't we have it?

Please back up all statements with quality sources.

No propaganda videos on youtube please.

The videos about the NAU are not propaganda. They are the TRUTH.

 

[freelance]

bump...I'm curious about this too. For example, I've heard NAFTA/CAFTA aren't actually free trade agreements. Somehow they put the US at a disadvantage? I'm not very knowlegeable on these issues so enlightenment would be appreciated . And don't worry, nothing you can say about this issue will break my support for Ron Paul.

Look at the "Clean Water Act, the "Healthy Skies Act" and "No Child Left Behind." The language belies what's really happening. It's the same thing with "free trade." It's really managed trade, managed to drive jobs away from us and exploit the people on the other end. Jobs are outsourced/offshored to slave labor while Americans lose jobs and are told the only patriotic thing to do is GO SHOPPING. No problem, just mortgage your home and use it as an ATM. So, how did that work out for us as a country?

 

[Pharoah]

Use common sense. Has anything the politicians do in secret and pretend isn't happening *ever* been good for you? Do some research here:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml

 

[Matt]

Wrong forum

 

[Patronus]

I think we can all agree that the NAU is bad. Maintaining U.S. sovereignty should be one of the core principles of this nation. However, as much as it may seem otherwise, the Trans Texas Corridor really is "just a damn highway".

I completely agree that seizing property through eminent domain is against our rights. But if you want to argue against the Trans Texas Corridor, you should argue against the entire interstate highway system (which some libertarians do). This highway would be built regardless - only the funding mechanism has changed.

Usually bonds are sold to finance transportation infrastructure, but the Texas government barely has enough money to maintain our roads, let alone build new ones. Rather than raise the gas tax, they placed out sections of new projects to bid. It's a new practice knows as public private partnerships. It just so happens that half of this private partnership is Spanish. The other private firm is Zachry Construction out of San Antonio. Other examples include the Chicago Skyway, the Southern Indiana Toll Road and the Dulles Greenway - all financed by Macquarie, an Australian company. These firms are just trying to make money. An example of domestic firms are Fluor Daniel and Morrison Knudsen who are partnering with the state of Virginia on the Pocahontas Parkway.

These highways do nothing but help facilitate trade and the economy. You could claim I'm biased in this matter, since I'm a grad student doing my research and thesis on improving usage on the TTC, but that also makes me a pretty good source.

 

[Lord Xar]

How does it make the immigration problem a nightmare. There would still be the same border control regulations on the highway, I assume.

You are thinking of "only" the highway. The highway is just one symptom of the NAU.
When thinking of the "highway" - if you just want to focus on that... and ignore everything else, then you need ask questions such as "safety" - who will control that corridor and will all trucks traveling that road need to follow the 'same' safety policy. If so, then 'that' safety policy will be an Umbrella for the three countries.

1. So, now we have a safety advisory council for all three countries. Now, because they are on "our" roads - what takes precedence? This 'new' safety policy or an existing one? Then, in this case - which one takes precendence?

2. Now that we have safety to concern ourselves with, what about "trade". What are the new trade policies? These trade laws, like the EU, will supercede American laws.

3. The obvious next step is - if you are 'TRADING' to such a degree - you are inweaving trade, safety - and because of "scary terrorists", now military - you would probably want a single currency - else, there would be too much fluctuation in invididual markets between countries.. - with such a trade agreement...THUS, the Amero.

So, now we have a trade, safety and currency that NOW is beyond America's sovereignty....

Then what?

Little by little this comes about... and this is ALL down without American citizens consent. Corrupt governors in Texas and elsewhere are allowing this to be built. Now, 'private companies' are pushing forward with the funding. Who are these "private companies" - who are they affiliated with?

Alot of nefarious things are coming our way.

 

[sparebulb]

I think we can all agree that the NAU is bad. Maintaining U.S. sovereignty should be one of the core principles of this nation. However, as much as it may seem otherwise the Trans Texas Corridor really is "just a damn highway".

I completely agree that seizing property through eminent domain is against our rights. But if you want to argue against the Trans Texas Corridor, you should argue against the entire interstate highway system (which many libertarians do). This highway would be built regardless - only the funding mechanism has changed.

Usually bonds are sold to finance infrastructure, but the Texas government barely has enough money to maintain our roads. Rather than raise the gas tax, they placed out sections of new projects to bid. It's a new practice knows as public private partnerships. It just so happens that half of this private partnership is Spanish. The other private firm is Zachry Construction out of San Antonio. Other examples include the Chicago Skyway, the Southern Indiana Toll Road and the Dulles Greenway - all financed by Macquarie, an Australian company. These firms are just trying to make money. A domestic firm example are Fluor Daniel and Morrison Knudsen who are partnering with the state of Virginia on the Pocahontas Parkway.

These highways do nothing but help facilitate trade and the economy. You could claim I'm biased in this matter, since I'm a grad student doing my research and thesis on improving usage on the TTC, but that also makes me a pretty good source.

A concept that they probably do not mention is that this is another example of nationalizing expenses and privatizing profits to the wealthy global elites. Bad idea no matter how it is packaged.

 

[LeadvilleCompuGeek]

If we cannot take care of the highways we already have, what business do we have in building another?

 

[sparebulb]

If we cannot take care of the highways we already have, what business do we have in building another?

Bingo!

 

[gandhi08]

Immigration problem??

What immigration problem?? There would be no immigration problem. We all would be north american union citizens. Not american citizens.

You also can get ready for a mexican born mexican president ruling over north america union.

 

[Spike]

I read somewhere that American truckers's livelihoods will be threatened, because Mexican truckers are much cheaper to employ. And its likely that some of these Mexican truckers are very corrupt and will transport even more drugs to American cities which will make the drug war that much worse.

Only transnationalcorporations and business leaders will benefit from this superhighway, nobody else.

 

[Bossobass]

The Nafta Super Highway, directly connected to the Mexican super ports will:

1. Provide billions to foreign companies in the form of tolls.

2. With one fell swoop, largely eliminate US Longshoremen.

3. With one fell swoop, largely eliminate US Teamsters.

4. Provide billions to Chinese exporters by eliminating tariffs.

5. Open US borders as never before in history.

6. Cost billions of US taxpayers' dollars to build, which will, no doubt, be the debt straw that breaks the USA's fiscal back.

There's a lot of good news in the above facts if you are Beijing, Wal Mart, Gruppo Ferrovial, Cintra, Exxon, Chase or Rudy Guliani. There is nothing but bad news here for the average American...period.

Bosso

 

[Thomas Paine]

If the highway is such a secret, then how come there are over 50 posts on this subject within the last hour???

 

[Patronus]

A concept that they probably do not mention is that this is another example of nationalizing expenses and privatizing profits to the wealthy global elites. Bad idea no matter how it is packaged.

This is only a good idea for Texas. We don't have to pay for anything upfront. All the risk is transferred to a private company. TxDOT isn't paying anything. Plus the road is only under a 50 year lease. It's not owned by Cintra-Zachry.

If we cannot take care of the highways we already have, what business do we have in building another?

Because Interstate 35 through Austin is a parking lot 75% of the time. I explained in a previous post regarding why the gas tax is failing us, but essentially it hasn't been raised since '91. Also it's indexed as cents per gallon - not a percentage. Gas prices, inflation and population have risen, but the gas tax has not.

 

[thatnerdyguy]

you dont see whats wrong with it????

have you ever read about a man named hitler... and what he was trying to succed on doing?

... hey thanks for helping this guy answer his question so he can fully support Dr. Paul's positions... idiot...

Anyways, I don't know that much about it either but NAU = BAD because now we are under the control of votes by Canada and Mexico for what is legal or illegal. (For example, it seems the leftist Canada and the poor Mexico would be all about an expanded welfare system... at the expense of the prosperous U.S.)

A giant privately built super highway across the US that would help with trade with our neighbors is a GOOD thing.

A giant super highway that gets built by the government enforcing eminent domain crap at tax payer expense, then charging tax payers to use the road, also giving up portions of our soil to other nations while being lax on driving requirements for truck drivers (think Mexican auto standards for Mexican drivers, without U.S. authorities being able to cite them for it). Is a BAD thing.

 

[sparebulb]

Oh, I almost forgot.

We, the US taxpayers, are helping Mexico pay for the highway in Mexico!

You just can't make this shat up.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Also, if a company wants to use Mexican truck drivers, then it is going to hire Mexican truck drivers regardless of whether or not there is a superhighway.