Rick Santorum I almost became a fan of Rick Santorum tonight.

[Revolution9]

He's the type of person that makes me wish I did believe. I'll just never get past resurrections and the like unless I'm playing an RPG.

This is an RPG. The Universe is one big analogical simulation. God's mind is the game engine. The Resurrection is the triumph of the spirit over material tyranny and a completion of all levels, as it were. The analogy being that you are the energy in the circuits that run the game engine simulation..the spirit..and not the algorithms defining gameplay..the material tyranny of the laws of physics and sustenance of your avatar/corporeal form/archetypal icon and the various interactions with level bosses and rules of various environments.

Rev9

 

[hells_unicorn]

Lets make this simple.

Lets say there are only ten pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Probably pretty valuable.

Lets say there are 1,000 pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Less than if there is only 10 pencils.

Lets say there are an infinite amount of pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Zero.

If a pencil equals zero and there are an infinite amount of them, that means infinity equals zero.

You just completely ducked my point and started rehashing the same fallacious mathematical argument and ignoring that you clearly stated that something (in this case, God) needs to possess energy, mass and some type of substance or space. Your own mathematical argument doesn't exist since it doesn't possess any of these qualities (the hypothetical of 10 vs. 1,000 pencils doesn't exist by this standard either, for the matter) so the whole thing is one massive non sequitur.

You really need to go back to the drawing board and consult whatever Logic textbook you've hopefully read at some point in your life, because this is stuff that I dealt with back in a 101 class over 10 years ago.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

So PaulConventionWV... do you still consider yourself to favour Santorum over a spoken line?

It was a joke dude. The thread title was tongue-in-cheek. I never actually "favored" Rick Santorum. I know he's all the same as the others and that Paul is the only one whose principles shine through his rhetoric. Somehow, I think you knew this and are just being difficult.

 

[Revolution9]

BTW...

Zero does not equal nothing but is a placeholder for that which is not there but is implied.

Three important numbers in the finite 3D laboratory Universe that have infinite resolution are pi, phi and e.

HTH
Rev9

 

[PaulConventionWV]

A smart guy who thinks that the world was created 6000 years ago by a divine, all-knowing, all-powerful entity. An entity that knows the future, but somehow you still have free will too. Ignoring evidence to fill your religious bias is not very intelligent.

Maybe Rick believes in free will, but I'm a little different on that subject. I realize that is a problem if you believe it, but I don't think anyone truly has free will.

 

[Gary4Liberty]

Lets make this simple.

Lets say there are only ten pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Probably pretty valuable.

Lets say there are 1,000 pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Less than if there is only 10 pencils.

Lets say there are an infinite amount of pencils in the world. Whats the value of 1 pencil? Zero.

If a pencil equals zero and there are an infinite amount of them, that means infinity equals zero.

market value does not equal mathematical value. = Fail

 

[PaulConventionWV]

No worries. It's just the concept of "infinity" that I am defending here. Apparently fewer people really grasp the concept of infinity than I thought.

I edited my post because I don't think a ray actually has a beginning point. If it did, it wouldn't actually be trully infinite. The point is only there to show direction. A ray and a line are essentially the same thing. If you disagreed, I would ask you which one is longer. The point doesn't actually represent a beginning. If we were somewhere on that infinite ray and I told you, "the beginning was infinity ago", that would represent the nature of a ray. If you then somehow went back to find the beginning, you would then have to cross infinity to find it. In other words, you would never actually get there.

 

[The Gold Standard]

Rick Santorum is a disgusting warmongering pig. Ask him about Honduras. The answer is Honduran jihadists. Ask him about Colombia. Narco-jihadists. Ask him about Cuba. Cuban jihadists. I don't care what he says while pandering, the guy doesn't believe in our unalienable rights if he thinks the state has the authority to police how we behave and send us off to fight imperial wars. Fuck him.

 

[sailingaway]

Santorum voted for an individual mandate HIMSELF in 1994, so going after Newt and Mitt on that was fairly hypocritical. Santorum is a big government solutions kind of guy -- he is only SOCIALLY conservative. http://articles.mcall.com/1994-05-02/news/2979474_1_cooper-grandy-health-reform-employees-premiums/2

 

[eduardo89]

Rick Santorum is a disgusting warmongering pig. Ask him about Honduras. The answer is Honduran jihadists. Ask him about Colombia. Narco-jihadists. Ask him about Cuba. Cuban jihadists. I don't care what he says while pandering, the guy doesn't believe in our unalienable rights if he thinks the state has the authority to police how we behave and send us off to fight imperial wars. Fuck him.

Actually his answer on the Honduran Constitutional crisis was spot on. The former president tried to change the constitution to be able to run for reelection (a big no-no in Latin America), their Congress voted against allowing the referendum, their Supreme Court said the referendum was unconstitutional, but the president tried to go forward with it regardless. The Congress and Supreme Court both ordered him detained and removed from office. Instead of siding with the rule of law or minding their own business, the Obama administration sided with the ex-president, who was obviously violating the law.

 

[newbitech]

Santorum says that we need big government if people don't order their lives correctly. Fast forward to 5:15

So rights come from God, but order comes from Big Government. Clearly, Rick Santorum believes that God doesn't trust people to order their lives correctly. Instead God has given us Big Government to keep people in order while they are exercising the rights God gave them.

My question for Santorum would be, when big government isn't ordered correctly, which right did God give the people to correct that?

 

[liveandletlive]

i dont mind his religious fervor though im not religious, par for the course, but he's a big government guy and he scares me. he's using religion as a tool for bigger government.

 

[newbitech]

You're running into the problem of trying to attach reason to your existence. Think about zero=infinity. It works. Thats all the proof it needs. You've only been alive a few years relatively speaking and have only lived in one location. If you were on a spaceship and ran into the end of the world, I guess I'd have to take your word for it. But you didn't.

infinity also equals 1. 0=1? hmm..

 

[low preference guy]

"Rights come from God... not from the state."

I know, I know. He's just pandering. But he seems like a smart guy, and this is one of the most intelligent things I've ever heard anyone beside Ron Paul say in the last two elections.

the only problem is that Santorum doesn't believe that you have rights. you should be regulated and restricted on the exercise of your rights, like freedom of expression, by the community. that's why he wants to regulate the internet.

 

[DogLover2113]

Santorum says that we need big government if people don't order their lives correctly. Fast forward to 5:15

So rights come from God, but order comes from Big Government. Clearly, Rick Santorum believes that God doesn't trust people to order their lives correctly. Instead God has given us Big Government to keep people in order while they are exercising the rights God gave them.

My question for Santorum would be, when big government isn't ordered correctly, which right did God give the people to correct that?

5:15 ---- "Government needs to be BIG if people don't order their lives correctly." Wow is that guy scary. So glad he is down in the polls. He's missing the part where government is the thing keeping people poor. It was not until all of the New Deal social programs came out that people started losing their pride to strive higher and higher. Government robbed the very poor of pride and continues to keep them down.

 

[Voluntary Man]

I would've understood, if you'd said that you almost started to gain a little respect him, but "fan"? Even when a liar tells the truth, he is still attempting to deceive. Santorum is a liar. Never forget.

 

[Tankbot85]

probably just another member of the cult that is atheism

So let me get this straight, since i don't believe in what you believe i'm a Cult member?? sigh.

 

[hells_unicorn]

infinity also equals 1. 0=1? hmm..

Yeah, now it looks like tttppp is attempting to contradict the very system that makes his computer function. Hopefully he gives up this argument because it's really embarrassing, especially coming from someone who I assume holds mathematics and logic in some level of esteem.

 

[muzzled dogg]

yeah he did well

 

[Revolution9]

I edited my post because I don't think a ray actually has a beginning point. If it did, it wouldn't actually be trully infinite. The point is only there to show direction. A ray and a line are essentially the same thing. If you disagreed, I would ask you which one is longer. The point doesn't actually represent a beginning. If we were somewhere on that infinite ray and I told you, "the beginning was infinity ago", that would represent the nature of a ray. If you then somehow went back to find the beginning, you would then have to cross infinity to find it. In other words, you would never actually get there.

A ray is a vector from a point. It is scalar.

HTH
Rev9