Hundreds Die in Cold Waves -- Media Keep Flogging Global Warming

[mad cow]

My issue with the graphic posted was calling certain temperatures cooler than average,record warmest and such.
The earth is 4.5 billion years old,Talking about average temperatures over a timeline of 30 years,say, is like me talking about how far my body temperature has strayed from 98.6F. over the last 3 seconds and whether or not I am suffering from a chill or a fever.

 

[Tpoints]

My issue with the graphic posted was calling certain temperatures cooler than average,record warmest and such.
The earth is 4.5 billion years old,Talking about average temperatures over a timeline of 30 years,say, is like me talking about how far my body temperature has strayed from 98.6F. over the last 3 seconds and whether or not I am suffering from a chill or a fever.

If you want to live like how people were 200 years ago, feel free to keep looking at the 4.5B year history. Ask any Sandy survivor whether he's living better than people prior to 200 years ago.

 

[mad cow]

Ask a Sandy survivor from a mere 20,000 years ago why he paid for a beachfront lot and found himself 60 miles from the coast.
Oh that's right,half of them would have been covered by the icecaps anyway and would be dead.

200 or 2,000 or 20,000 years from now,the situation might be totally different and it will have nothing to do with SUV's.
Deal with it.

 

[Tpoints]

Ask a Sandy survivor from a mere 20,000 years ago why he paid for a beachfront lot and found himself 60 miles from the coast.
Oh that's right,half of them would have been covered by the icecaps anyway and would be dead.

200 or 2,000 or 20,000 years from now,the situation might be totally different and it will have nothing to do with SUV's.
Deal with it.

deal with it is far from saying "it won't happen" "everything will be fine"

 

[mad cow]

I would never say "it won't happen""everything will be fine".
What I will say is that if you have a problem with "climate change",Alien invasion,Zombie attack,super-volcano eruption,asteroid impact,worldwide drought or flood,Mayan Calendar predictions,headaches,lack of energy,tired blood,loss of concentration,dizziness,arthritis or neuralgia,well it sounds like a personal problem,leave me and my money out of it and we will get along fine.

 

[TER]

That's your ice boss; ow = open water. 1981-present.

 

[TER]

The rising sea levels are significant. I think there is climate change going on, whether this is something unique or common, I haven't the slightest, but what it is seems to me to be is significant, and that this might be an unfortunate 'natural' consequence of the booming of our species on this planet.

 

[Smart3]

Climate change denialism is both stupid and hurts the Liberty movement.

These 'cold waves' are the result of climate change/global warming.

 

[Tpoints]

Climate change denialism is both stupid and hurts the Liberty movement.

These 'cold waves' are the result of climate change/global warming.

People seem to be unable to separate acknowledging climate change and implementing carbon emission regulations. That's why the denial is so rampant.

 

[oyarde]

Climate may be unstable, but none of it is due to man made carbon.There is not enough of it to be significant in the Atmosphere.Therefore it is all a scam and lie to steal more.Simple as that, next question please.....

 

[Tpoints]

Climate may be unstable, but none of it is due to man made carbon.There is not enough of it to be significant in the Atmosphere.Therefore it is all a scam and lie to steal more.Simple as that, next question please.....

how much is significant?

 

[mad cow]

People seem to be unable to separate acknowledging climate change and implementing carbon emission regulations. That's why the denial is so rampant.

I absolutely don't acknowledge "climate change", by the way why did y'all stop calling it "Global Warming",were the holes in your theories just to immense to cover up anymore?

Every time I here "climate change denialism" or "carbon emission regulations",I say there goes another Fascist.
There is no way that anybody who wants to regulate "carbon dioxide emissions"AKA exhaling,should be allowed within shooting distance of anybody who considers themselves a libertarian or any part of the freedom movement.

If you want to worship Gaia,then Al Gore or Lisa Jackson or Ken Salazar might be your Political touchstone,not Ron Paul.
Perhaps they have their own websites.

 

[Tpoints]

I absolutely don't acknowledge "climate change", by the way why did y'all stop calling it "Global Warming",were the holes in your theories just to immense to cover up anymore?

Every time I here "climate change denialism" or "carbon emission regulations",I say there goes another Fascist.
There is no way that anybody who wants to regulate "carbon dioxide emissions"AKA exhaling,should be allowed within shooting distance of anybody who considers themselves a libertarian or any part of the freedom movement.

If you want to worship Gaia,then Al Gore or Lisa Jackson or Ken Salazar might be your Political touchstone,not Ron Paul.
Perhaps they have their own websites.

Nope, we didn't stop calling it global warming, we use both of them interchangeably. Climate change is not intended to be a "catch all" regardless of whether the global warms or cools, and cooling waves do not on their own disprove global warming. Like I said, climate change has been a phrase used for over 20 years, it's still used the same way.

Yes, you say Fascist, because your mind is unable to separate denial/acknowledgement from regulation as a response. You are correct, nobody, not even the harshest Fascist, environmentalist, or Malthusian wants to regulate exhaling. It's your problem if you think CO2 only comes from exhaling (or worse yet, think somebody is telling you that CO2 is a pollutant, plant food, simpletonisms)

I don't worship anything or anybody, and global warming isn't about saving Gaia, mother nature or crap like that (funny thing is, it's opponents and deniers who don't know this, anybody who knows and acknowledges global warming knows that the concern is hardly polar bears or trees). Want to keep putting words in peoples' mouths?

 

[mad cow]

I don't want to put any words in anybody's mouth.As long as you say I don't like global warming(sorry,climate change) like a sane person might say I don't like asparagus or slasher movies and don't want to pass any laws,regulations or taxes to shove your opinions down the throat of those that might disagree with you and make them pay one penny to support your belief,then no problem

 

[Tpoints]

I don't want to put any words in anybody's mouth.As long as you say I don't like global warming(sorry,climate change) like a sane person might say I don't like asparagus or slasher movies and don't want to pass any laws,regulations or taxes to shove your opinions down the throat of those that might disagree with you and make them pay one penny to support your belief,then no problem

Good. So as long as you're capable of separating whether global warming is happening from what should be done about it, we're good.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

I'm assuming the Holocene Climate Optimum is when cavemen discovered fire.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Manmade Global Warming in 1635:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Colonial_Hurricane_of_1635

Hurricane Sandy in 1804:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_of_October_1804

 

[RPtotheWH]

Oh man, don't the members of the Church of Climatology get sick of changing their tune? Let me get this straight an invisible, all-powerful, super destructive force will burn us all up if I don't change my ways.........Hmm where did I hear this before? This is the religion for people that don't believe in God. Mind control is mind control, especially when it "makes sense".

BAH BAH:

 

[Danke]

 

[Tpoints]

Manmade Global Warming in 1635:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Colonial_Hurricane_of_1635

Hurricane Sandy in 1804:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_of_October_1804

Unless you are willing to live 1800 or before, this is pointless.