How bad is it for our plans if Romney receives 1,144 delegates?

When Paul polls at the front of the pack against Obama---it would be a tragedy in my eyes for him not to run 3rd party.
 
I also don't think it is an honorable way to support our cause by covertly acting as delegates for any other candidate
 
Romney can not win. He needs Texas and CA. He is not getting either.
 
sailingaway said:
Sometimes votes choose delegates, as in Illinois winning a DISTRICT would have directly given Ron delegates, even if he were fourth in the state. And he is ignored more when his numbers are low. I think it is a dangerous strategy, and minimizes the importance of Ron's message. There may be a time or two I would think differently, but at the moment none occurs to me.
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Actually he didn't even need to win a district in IL - his supporters just needed to vote for his delegates. In districts where he got 11% of the vote, his delegates only received 2% of the vote... a major problem
 
CTRattlesnake said:
He will win a plurality if not a majority of California delegates
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probably. The question is how many districts can we get for RON. The good news is that IF Ron has done well with delegates at convention that might be KNOWN by California's primary in June, so he might have momentum. If that actually happens, the dynamic could change dramatically. California was a Goldwater state. And while it is very liberal now, those people vote Democrat.
 
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sailingaway said:
California was a Goldwater state. And while it is very liberal now, those people vote Democrat.
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1964 Presidential General Election Results - California
Lyndon Johnson Democrat 4,171,877 59.11%
Barry Goldwater Republican 2,879,108 40.79%
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=6&year=1964&f=0&off=0&elect=0

I think you are talking about AZ which Goldwater won by 1% of the vote, and only because he was from there. Someone with his views from a different state may have lost by 10% or more in AZ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona,_1964
 
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Seriously fuck off the "strategic" voting for other people besides Ron Paul. We're here to get Ron Paul elected, not make sure Santorum gets more delegates than anyone else, which is exactly what such a strategy would reap. A better strategy would be to vote for Newt Gingrich - if we are truly the insolent welps the media portrays us. You're all supposedly here because you believe in the message, the philosophy of our country's sacred honor. Pull up them big boy (or girl) britches and ACT THE FUCK LIKE IT.
 
In my opinion you would be a fool to vote for Gingrich or Santorum in some misguided strategy. Stay the course vote for Ron and we'll go from there.

I think Romney is going to come up short on delegates. The totals the MSM are estimating are low and nobody is dropping out anytime soon.

A few months ago I scoffed at the idea of a contested convention, but it's looking more likely as each state votes.

If Romney comes up short we could very well see Ron or Rand as VP if Romney needs the delegates. More unlikely but not impossible is nobody has enough in the first round and it's game on.
 
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Let us not jump to conclusions. We all know that the media will represent the delegates "won" by Romney as a matter of fact. Unless Romney has 1144 bound delegates going into the election it matters nothing. Even if the media reports he has 1144 it will just be establishment propaganda until we actually show up at the convention. This is where it will get really interesting. Baring any dirty tricks the first round of votes is what counts at the convention. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Sullivan* said:
Seriously ████ off the "strategic" voting for other people besides Ron Paul. We're here to get Ron Paul elected, not make sure Santorum gets more delegates than anyone else, which is exactly what such a strategy would reap. A better strategy would be to vote for Newt Gingrich - if we are truly the insolent welps the media portrays us. You're all supposedly here because you believe in the message, the philosophy of our country's sacred honor. Pull up them big boy (or girl) britches and ACT ██████ LIKE IT.
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But why not use their own system against them? Where you can't beat 'em.... Let Santorum or Gingrich win the straw polls, and run as delegates FOR them. At most, Paul supporters in such a disguise have to hold their noses and vote ONCE for the wrong guy in Tampa.
 
gop platform planks also get voted on in tampa.
even if it is close, leave behind a true platform.
 
Aratus said:
gop platform planks also get voted on in tampa.
even if it is close, leave behind a true platform.
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Platform is kind of pointless.

More important are the RULES for 2016 that will be decided. As well as the National Chairman for the next 4 years..
 
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