Hispanics Overwhelmingly Support Stricter Gun Control Measures

[nobody's_hero]

I'm not race baiting anyone. It's a cultural issue as opposed to a race issue. Experiences and environment mold a philosophy, for good or bad. Most hispanics hail from locales where gun violence is prevalent or has been prevalent during past periods of societal upheaval (take El Salvador for example). This isn't shocking that they would be averse to firearms on average or assign a negative connotation to firearm ownership, given their harrowing experiences with such instruments of death.

I try this argument here all the time and for some reason it just doesn't float. Prepare to be flamed.

 

[Brett85]

It's still not a reason to give up on the Latino vote. The fact is that the Republican Party will be a parmanent minority if they can't get a larger share of the Hispanic vote. (For those who actually care about the Republican Party)

 

[MelissaWV]

Three-page thread, three Hispanics, and no one asked any of us or our families.

I do think it lines up pretty squarely with the results you'd get if you asked the general population and skewed it to have the same reinforcing demographics, which makes me wonder what the purpose is behind zooming in on "Hispanics." Did anyone think to ask if the people being polled even knew the level of gun restrictions in place at that time? If you watch the news, it seems like you just walk up to a table, pick one out, and head home. That's really not the case most places anymore. A decent poll establishes the respondant's level of awareness and proficiency on a topic before taking their response.

It isn't "race baiting" but it certainly is ugly. RPFs does love to put up polls that focus on race, culture, religion, or gender. It's the same thing the MSM positively wets itself to do, so that it can then analyze the results without actually delving into the raw data.

It is the frustration of everyone on here as a minority group trying to still work to get people elected, and to live within society: people want to appear fair, then they divide up the data by demographics that don't make any sense and go out of their way to show how ignorant they are. What polls like this are saying is that Mexicans and Cubans and Chileans and Colombians and Puerto Ricans and everyone else whose nation of origin --- or parents' nation of origin --- speaks Spanish, belongs in the same group. Does that sound right? Or is this another MSM meme that you've taken to heart?

Oh and earlier I did say minority. Guess what? Just by being on RPF, you are a minority... and your opinion is disregarded, or added up so that some idiot who's already made 10,000 assumptions about you can point out that the GOP shouldn't "give up" on your vote.

You might also want to look at a list of LRP's polls and surveys before you give this one so much weight and even talk about acting based upon its results.

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[Anti Federalist]

I try this argument here all the time and for some reason it just doesn't float. Prepare to be flamed.

Meh, nothing new here.

It's all about race for everybody else, when minority voters are monolithic in one direction.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Kids that witnessed their classmates/teachers being killed are less traumatized than the people on RPFs. I'm not sure how anyone can be surprised that Ron didn't do better.

Not particularly.

Just well aware that when the crocodile tears start flowing after such an event, the sure fire result will be the loss of even more freedom, which is the reason all of us are here in the first place.

 

[MelissaWV]

Meh, nothing new here.

It's all about race for everybody else, when minority voters are monolithic in one direction.

It's a poll about guns with Bloomberg's name at the bottom. Aside from the lumping together bullcrap I already mentioned, his name on there alone should be an alarm bell that this survey was cherrypicked.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's a poll about guns with Bloomberg's name at the bottom. Aside from the lumping together bullcrap I already mentioned, his name on there alone should be an alarm bell that this survey was cherrypicked.

Fair point.

Here's one not associated with Bloomberg.

Now, I have a problem with millions and millions of people waltzing into my home, and becoming an almost monolithic voting bloc, aligned toward taking my rights away.

I'd be just as pissed off if it were a bunch of white Russians or Ukrainians.

I suppose I could be told at this point, "What right do you have to call it your home? "You people" just stole it from aboriginal natives anyway!"

If that's how it's going to go down, fuck it all, ya'll can have the mess this has become, and I'll find my way back to northern Europe somewhere.

Finland's not too bad, I hear.

 

[MelissaWV]

Fair point.

Here's one not associated with Bloomberg.

Now, I have a problem with millions and millions of people waltzing into my home, and becoming an almost monolithic voting bloc, aligned toward taking my rights away.

I'd be just as pissed off if it were a bunch of white Russians or Ukrainians.

I suppose I could be told at this point, "What right do you have to call it your home? "You people" just stole it from aboriginal natives anyway!"

If that's how it's going to go down, fuck it all, ya'll can have the mess this has become, and I'll find my way back to northern Europe somewhere.

Finland's not too bad, I hear.

Actually, that's an interesting little graph, because it doesn't really break down "Hispanic" other than to tell you they are included in the other races (Hispanics are of any race). The other lines are heading upwards as well. It would seem, as RPFers suspect, that there's a much bigger problem.

 

[AuH20]

No race baiting in here. It is most definitely a misguided culture phenomena, just like our vastly ill educated non hispanic population in America

Correct. No one here is insinuating that Hispanics or Latinos are substandard, immoral races. On the contrary, many are very generous, god-fearing, hardworking people deserving of our respect. But we can't deny that there is a vast cultural divide in terms of the way that they view the world and manner in which some 3rd & 4th generation Americans do.

There is something about the American experiment which catalyzed a more fervent type of liberty in the populace than any other place in the world, thanks in large part to the significant private property rights wrangled by the general public. And certainly this sense of freedom is waning to historically low levels, but nevertheless it still defines many who it call this nation home.

 

[KrokHead]

Most people support gun control because TV says so and that firearms are becoming increasingly taboo. It doesn't help that the media image of a gun owner is a "miltia nutjob."

 

[AuH20]

It's still not a reason to give up on the Latino vote. The fact is that the Republican Party will be a parmanent minority if they can't get a larger share of the Hispanic vote. (For those who actually care about the Republican Party)

True. But how do you communicate to them that Obamacare and gun control is not in their best interest???? Most people, especially those the least educated, will always take the seemingly easy, prescribed solution with short-term, instant benefits, as opposed to meticulously breaking down the issue logically & not emotionally.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Top to bottom socialists it seems. Remember that close to 70% support Obamacare.

Santa Claus is popular.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Santa Claus is popular.

And freedom, at least how it is historically defined and how most of us define it, is not.

 

[Origanalist]

Fair point.

Here's one not associated with Bloomberg.

Now, I have a problem with millions and millions of people waltzing into my home, and becoming an almost monolithic voting bloc, aligned toward taking my rights away.

I'd be just as pissed off if it were a bunch of white Russians or Ukrainians.

I suppose I could be told at this point, "What right do you have to call it your home? "You people" just stole it from aboriginal natives anyway!"

If that's how it's going to go down, fuck it all, ya'll can have the mess this has become, and I'll find my way back to northern Europe somewhere.

Finland's not too bad, I hear.

I feel that same way quite often these days. If I could afford it I probably would.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

And freedom, at least how it is historically defined and how most of us define it, is not.

You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout
I'm telling you why
Santa Claus is coming to town

He's making a list,
Checking it twice;
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Santa Claus is coming to town

He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake

With little tin badges and tight rubber gloves
Shooty shoot shoots and rummy bum clubs
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town!

 

[MelissaWV]

You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout
I'm telling you why
Santa Claus is coming to town

He's making a list,
Checking it twice;
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Santa Claus is coming to town

He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake

With little tin badges and tight rubber gloves
Shooty shoot shoots and rummy bum clubs
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town!

See something, say something.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

See something, say something.

Santa knows all.

 

[Carson]

Not any of them that I know of.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I'm not race baiting anyone. It's a cultural issue as opposed to a race issue. Experiences and environment mold a philosophy, for good or bad. Most hispanics hail from locales where gun violence is prevalent or has been prevalent during past periods of societal upheaval (take El Salvador for example). This isn't shocking that they would be averse to firearms on average or assign a negative connotation to firearm ownership, given their harrowing experiences with such instruments of death.

You just gotta scapegoat some other race because the majority of congress is what race that actually write the bill? Lets just drop the subject,its stupid.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Actually, that's an interesting little graph, because it doesn't really break down "Hispanic" other than to tell you they are included in the other races (Hispanics are of any race).

It goes to show that these categories are apples and oranges. They are attempting to create categories for comparison as if they were mutually exclusive, which they aren't. They might as well include "American", "tall", "short" and "other" as groupings.