Helping Code Pink "More Proof Ron Paul Supporters Are Not Conservative"

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

It seems pretty clear to me. In politics, perception is everything. And Republicans, rightly or wrongly, see themselves as being for the Constitution, states' rights, liberty and all the rest. (stop laughing) They see liberals as those people who want big government, more and more handouts and are fine with our country being taken over by the new version of Communism. Which in their mind are the evil islamofascists (sic). They see groups like Code Pink as being a liberal group promoting those concepts and will consider anyone who aligns themselves with such groups as being liberal too.

As long as we are trying to get our liberty candidates elected to office through the Republican Party, our candidates have to appeal to Republicans in order to win their primaries.

If we want to be helpful in getting our guys elected, it's probably not a good idea to associate the liberty movement with known liberal groups.

LE should just come out out of the closet. We all know you're a tool for GOP 'associate by guilt' non-sense. You'd piss on the Anti-Imperialist League because people of different persuasions came together for one goal, one liberty and property right oriented goal. You'd piss on any group that had folks of different persuasions to accomplish a liberty-goal (e.g. Drug War, civil liberties, etc.), because some fascist assholes with IQ's of 70 that you want to pander to / get a vote from.

In doing so, you become everything you hate. You eschew all your so-called beliefs. It's like Bush: I violated market principles to save the market. What a bunch of HORSE SHIT.

 

[pcosmar]

Pete, there have been a number of threads on here asking where Code Pink was since Obama has been warmongering. So yes, I have thought them to be silent since he has been in office. If you have evidence to the contrary, the thing to do is point me to it. Not act like a JACKASS.

Google worked just fine for me.. I am guessing Yahoo or any other search engine would as well..

Just type Code Pink,, and hit "enter".

Oh,, yeah,, then READ some.

 

[PatriotOne]

So tell me what anti-war group is not controlled opposition?

Veterans Against the War and Code pink have been on the front line.. I haven't heard of many others.

Care to name them ? Some Video of their protests. Some actual visible opposition.

or are they busy sitting on their hands so as not to offend?

lets see,, Julian Assange is controlled opposition
Anonymous is controlled opposition
VAW and Code Pink are controlled opposition
Alex Jones is controlled opposition

Virtually anyone that IS opposition, is controlled opposition.

I haven't researched anonomous or VAW to know what they are. But the others you listed are controlled opposition. I've listed enough info in this thread on the Code Pink founder and Adam Kokesh that it should be fairly obvious to anyone taking the time to read it.

As far as any legit anti-war organizations....well...I'm not aware of any that are currently active. Code Pink probably has lots of legit anti-war members. Too bad the controlled op founder has them dressing up like vagina's .

 

[LibertyEagle]

LE should just come out out of the closet. We all know you're a tool for GOP 'associate by guilt' non-sense. You'd piss on the Anti-Imperialist League because people of different persuasions came together for one goal, one liberty and property right oriented goal. You'd piss on any group that had folks of different persuasions to accomplish a liberty-goal (e.g. Drug War, civil liberties, etc.), because some fascist assholes with IQ's of 70 that you want to pander to / get a vote from.

In doing so, you become everything you hate. You eschew all your so-called beliefs. It's like Bush: I violated market principles to save the market. What a bunch of HORSE SHIT.

What I told you is politics 101. Just because you hate it, doesn't make it any less true.

It's also something you should have learned in a basic logic class.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

It is called playing to your audience.

It's a pretty basic concept.

Playing to your audience, you become them. It's simple, if all you want is their vote, then become Establishment-like...wait, that's what you are suggesting in the first place. You're on the wrong board, playing that game.

Unlike you, I'm not a partisan hack. I'll march alongside Code Pink to end the wars, and I'll march alongside AFP to end Obamacare. I won't enjoy being around either group, but I'm not dumb enough to eschew relevant coalitions on matters where my principles meet their's. Like I said, you would piss on the Anti-Imperialist League and then claim you're against the wars.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Playing to your audience, you become them. It's simple, if all you want is their vote, then become Establishment-like...wait, that's what you are suggesting in the first place. You're on the wrong board, playing that game.

No. It's called not sticking a fork in their eye and then asking for their vote.

We share a great deal in common with rank-and-file Republicans, actually. Which is why so many of them receive Rand Paul and Thomas Massie so well. The biggest issue is that they don't realize that they are not walking their talk. I credit FOX news with most of that, because FOX has done everything they could to create an irrational fear of Muslims. They're coming around though. Slowly, but surely.

Unlike you, I'm not a partisan hack. I'll march alongside Code Pink to end the wars, and I'll march alongside AFP to end Obamacare. I won't enjoy being around either group, but I'm not dumb enough to eschew relevant coalitions on matters where my principles meet their's. Like I said, you would piss on the Anti-Imperialist League and then claim you're against the wars.

Let's be honest here, shall we. You have no interest in doing anything politically and that's fine. But, some of us do. What I posted is just common sense.

 

[pcosmar]

For those with short term memory loss,,

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...at-TJ-s!-Live-Stream-jeffersondanceparty.info

Same shit,,different thread.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

No. It's called not sticking a fork in their eye and then asking for their vote.

We share a great deal in common with rank-and-file Republicans, actually. Which is why so many of them receive Rand Paul and Thomas Massie so well. The biggest issue is that they don't realize that they are not walking their talk. I credit FOX news with most of that, because FOX has done everything they could to create an irrational fear of Muslims. They're coming around though. Slowly, but surely.



Let's be honest here, shall we. You have no interest in doing anything politically and that's fine. But, some of us do. What I posted is just common sense.

I have no idea what you are even doing here. You might as well plaster a huge, I love the GOP and its establishment, as your profile pic. Like I said, if you want their vote (and that is all you care about), then just turn into the Establishment. They vote those guys in like it's going out of style. Tell me how tough you'll be on criminals, how much you are going to propagate surveillance to imprison them and call it safety, tell them what brown folks you are going to bomb next, and then, tell them how much Corporate-Welfare you are going to increase next, and how many brown folks you are going to deport -- and then with a straight face, tell us how you are fighting 'for liberty'.

You PISS on anything that doesn't cater to these ass backward fascists. Don't do civil disobedience, don't utter any words they may not like, don't ruffle feathers, etc. etc. If you were the majority of the movement, we'd look no different than your typical GOP-douche nozzle.

 

[AuH20]

I have no idea what you are even doing here. You might as well plaster a huge, I love the GOP and its establishment, as your profile pic. Like I said, if you want their vote (and that is all you care about), then just turn into the Establishment. They vote those guys in like it's going out of style. Tell me how tough you'll be on criminals, how much you are going to propagate surveillance to imprison them and call it safety, tell them what brown folks you are going to bomb next, and then, tell them how much Corporate-Welfare you are going to increase next, and how many brown folks you are going to deport -- and then with a straight face, tell us how you are fighting 'for liberty'.

You PISS on anything that doesn't cater to these ass backward fascists. Don't do civil disobedience, don't utter any words they may not like, don't ruffle feathers, etc. etc. If you were the majority of the movement, we'd look no different than your typical GOP-douche nozzle.

Calling all republicans fascists??? Don't see the majority advocating for social interventionism, eugenics and centralized planning which was typical of the Mussolini regime. This sounds more like a glass half empty ancap rant, which I appreciate from time to time, but in this case is off the target.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I have no idea what you are even doing here.

I've supported Ron Paul before you were born, kiddie. That's what I am doing here. How about you?

You might as well plaster a huge, I love the GOP and its establishment, as your profile pic.

I never said I loved them, or even liked them for that matter.

Like I said, if you want their vote (and that is all you care about), then just turn into the Establishment.

Of course that's not the only thing we want. I am just telling you facts, is all. If some of us want to use the Republican Party to get our candidates elected, don't rub their noses in known liberal groups. Get it? If you don't care to get our guys elected, then go stand next to the CP-USA too.

They vote those guys in like it's going out of style. Tell me how tough you'll be on criminals, how much you are going to propagate surveillance to imprison them and call it safety, tell them what brown folks you are going to bomb next, and then, tell them how much Corporate-Welfare you are going to increase next, and how many brown folks you are going to deport -- and then with a straight face, tell us how you are fighting 'for liberty'.

All this is coming from whatever dream world you are in. It's nothing I said, or even suggested.

You PISS on anything that doesn't cater to these ass backward fascists. Don't do civil disobedience, don't utter any words they may not like, don't ruffle feathers, etc. etc. If you were the majority of the movement, we'd look no different than your typical GOP-douche nozzle.

I want to get liberty candidates elected. So, I am in favor of not sticking a fork in their eye and then asking them to vote for our people. Code Pink is the fork in this example. They don't share much of anything with us, beyond being anti-war. To my knowledge they don't now, nor have they ever, supported Ron Paul. So, why would I go out of my way to align the liberty movement with them, when I know that it would be harmful to getting our candidates elected? If we were working through the Democratic Party, it might be different.

You act as if I am suggesting we give up one of our principles and I am not.

 

[AuH20]

I've supported Ron Paul before you were born, kiddie. That's what I am doing here. How about you?



I never said I loved them, or even liked them for that matter.



Of course that's not the only thing we want. I am just telling you facts, is all. If some of us want to use the Republican Party to get our candidates elected, don't rub their noses in known liberal groups. Get it? If you don't care to get our guys elected, then go stand next to the CP-USA too.



All this is coming from whatever dream world you are in. It's nothing I said, or even suggested.



I want to get liberty candidates elected. So, I am in favor of not sticking a fork in their eye and then asking them to vote for our people. Code Pink is the fork in this example. They don't share much of anything with us, beyond being anti-war. To my knowledge they don't now, nor have they ever, supported Ron Paul. So, why would I go out of my way to align the liberty movement with them, when I know that it would be harmful to getting our candidates elected? If we were working through the Democratic Party, it might be different.

You act as if I am suggesting we give up one of our principles and I am not.

There is a strategic time and a place if you want to freely associate with Code Pink and unite for a common cause. Giving one's pass to a foaming at the mouth Code Pinko at such a highly visible location like the RNC Convention is beyond dumb. There is no tangible benefit to be gained.

Don't these people ever think for a second??? Then again I should be chastised for injecting a healthy dose of common sense for the politically naive. It's like anything. Think before you act. Weigh the pros and cons to the best of your ability. Like it or not, your actions represent millions of others.

 

[pcosmar]

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You act as if I am suggesting we give up one of our principles and I am not.

I would like to think not.

It is honestly hard to tell..

 

[PatriotOne]

For those with short term memory loss,,

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...at-TJ-s!-Live-Stream-jeffersondanceparty.info

Same shit,,different thread.

So you think Adam Kokesh and Code Pink, along with their merry band of fools, dancing like a bunch of idiots around the Jefferson Memorial was a big accomplishment for the liberty movement?

They looked like they were a group of mentally challenged adults who just got off the short bus and were on a field trip with their special education class.

Seriously Pete....any other tourists/people watching that embarrassing spectacle was having the same reaction I did when I use to run into a bunch of Hare Krisna's dancing around and playing their tamborine's at the airports.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I would like to think not.

It is honestly hard to tell..

That's cool, Pete. I have no idea what you stand for at all, anymore, besides just being mad at everyone and everything. Just going around screaming that everything sucks, doesn't seem to me to be a constructive way to at least try to get us out of this shit.

But, to each their own.

 

[pcosmar]

Weigh the pros and cons to the best of your ability.

No down side to it, The RNC farce of a primary was over and the new Commie crowned.
They had rejected all rules and decorum and had made up new rules as they went along.
Their minds made up. I watched the whole thing, and was honestly and physically sick to my stomach.

I would have preferred is the Liberty candidates had rushed the stage and physically removed Boner(sic) and demanded votes and debates take place..
but that didn't happen

Like it or not, your actions represent millions of others.

Wrong. My actions are mine,,and mine alone.
Any that join me do so by their own choice,, or they don't by their own choice.

I don't represent anyone....Ron Paul represents ME,,, not the other way around.

 

[pcosmar]

That's cool, Pete. I have no idea what you stand for at all, anymore, besides just being mad at everyone and everything. Just going around screaming that everything sucks, doesn't seem to me to be a constructive way to at least try to get us out of this shit.

But, to each their own.

I have no expectation of "getting out of this shit",, The small hope of avoiding some of it ended earlier this week.

I would rather prepare and warn folks of the shit,, and help them deal with it.

I expect a world of shit,, real soon.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I have no expectation of "getting out of this shit",, The small hope of avoiding some of it ended earlier this week.

I would rather prepare and warn folks of the shit,, and help them deal with it.

I expect a world of shit,, real soon.

Fair enough. Then, why are you participating in threads about political activism?

 

[acptulsa]

Don't these people ever think for a second??? Then again I should be chastised for injecting a healthy dose of common sense for the politically naive. It's like anything. Think before you act. Weigh the pros and cons to the best of your ability. Like it or not, your actions represent millions of others.

To be honest, I think they did think for a second. And I think that their thought process involved considering the way we had been treated and feeling an urge to stage a public protest. Who knows, such an individual just might even think that they might want to consider their prospective 'allies'. They might even consider it prudent to reach out to someone else who is sick of watching this nation wage all of these unnecessary, and even worse, self-destructive wars.

No, I don't think that delegate played the Good Samaritan without the slightest prior consideration.

 

[acptulsa]

That's cool, Pete. I have no idea what you stand for at all, anymore, besides just being mad at everyone and everything. Just going around screaming that everything sucks, doesn't seem to me to be a constructive way to at least try to get us out of this shit.

But, to each their own.

When that which is really and truly outrageous (in the original meaning of that overused word) occurs, it really isn't that easy to avoid being outraged.

And if you don't mind my saying so, this shit has left you and I a little touchy, too.

 

[pcosmar]

Fair enough. Then, why are you participating in threads about political activism?

Delaying, I do not believe the march to totalitarianism will be stopped.. but it can be delayed.
And after that,, it can be resisted.

I choose to be a bump in the road.
in the later option,, I do not discuss.