Guns don't kill people, prescription SSRI's* do.

Multiple stories from who? A single neighbor said he was medicated for personality disorder? Huh?? Which one??? Why?? I need something more solid. And even if he had a prescription for something, I wanna know just how compliant he was. And even if he was on an SSRI and he was taking it regularly, that is far from evidence that the drug itself caused him to commit mass murder.

I'm interviewing Dr. Peter Breggin on my radio show next Saturday to talk about this, among other psychotropic drug-related things.



word for word what I said on my show yesterday in the last 8-9 minutes.

Set up a video camera for interviews, and upload to YouTube...... ;)

 
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Chinese Traditional medicine?

And you are saying this witchcraft is better than a hospital outfitted with the latest equipment and people with 12+ years of evidence-based medical education?

Are you on an SSRI? I think you may be having a rare bit of serotonin syndrome w/ strong delusions.

I Keep telling them. Maybe we need to espouse how Harvard or Johns Hopkins Interns could write a better licensing test than the State government.
 
Chinese Traditional medicine?

And you are saying this witchcraft is better than a hospital outfitted with the latest equipment and people with 12+ years of evidence-based medical education?

Are you on an SSRI? I think you may be having a rare bit of serotonin syndrome w/ strong delusions.

CTM is not witchcraft. Perhaps you should only reply to topics you know something about.
 
I will concede one point. Naturopathic, Alternative or Complimentary Medicine practitioners treat their patients better than most physicians. Most of these practitioners sped at least an hour taking a good detailed history. They also explain their methods more often and in better laymen terms. Its almost a source of psychotherapy.

Fair enough. But CTM is at a whole another level than naturopaths and other alternative medicine. They really mastered the art of healing people, although like I said before, many of them a quacks too. My acupuncturist gave a free initial diagnosis and I rarely had to wait more than 5 minutes for acupuncture. I don't need to tell you how doctors treat you.
 
CTM is not witchcraft. Perhaps you should only reply to topics you know something about.

I know a little bit about CTM and a little bit about Medicine. I am not ignorant. I lived in places where they used CTM. People aren't any healthier there.
 
I know a little bit about CTM and a little bit about Medicine. I am not ignorant. I lived in places where they used CTM. People aren't any healthier there.

Read my post where I pointed out that most of them are not competent either. But there are a percentage that are amazing.
 
The Quack who thinks therapy can fix everything and abdicated from Harvard to go to SUNY? Yeah, Szasz must have done a good job.

I've come to expect this kind of smear from some of the sites I visit, not so much here.

Let's take a quick look at "quack" Dr. Peter Breggin, shall we?

Peter Roger Breggin (born May 11, 1936)[1] is an American psychiatrist and critic of biological psychiatry and psychiatric medication. In his books, he advocates replacing psychiatry's use of drugs and electroconvulsive therapy with humanistic approaches, such as psychotherapy, education, and broader human services.[2]

Breggin is the author of many books which are critical of modern psychiatry, including Toxic Psychiatry, Talking Back to Prozac and Talking Back to Ritalin. His most recent book, Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry, discusses medication spellbinding (in which patients who are doing worse after treatment fail to see that they are doing worse or recognize why),[3] the adverse effects of drugs and electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), the hazards of diagnosing and medicating children, the psychopharmaceutical complex, and guidelines for psychotherapy and counseling.

Breggin now lives in the Finger Lakes Region of Central New York and practices psychiatry in Ithaca, New York.

Education and early career

Breggin graduated from Harvard College with honors,[4] and attended Case Western Reserve Medical School. His postgraduate training in psychiatry began with an internship year of mixed medicine and psychiatry at the State University of New York (SUNY) Upstate Medical Center in Syracuse. Breggin completed a first year of psychiatric residency at Harvard's Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston, where he was a teaching fellow at Harvard Medical School, and finished his final two years of psychiatric residency at SUNY. This was followed by a two-year staff appointment to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), where he worked to build and staff mental health centers and education. Breggin has taught at several universities, obtaining faculty appointments to the Washington School of Psychiatry, the Johns Hopkins University Department of Counseling, and the George Mason University Institute for Conflict Analysis and Resolution. Breggin has worked in a private practice since 1968.

Breggin is a life member of the American Psychiatric Association and an editor for several scientific journals. His opinions have been portrayed both favorably and unfavorably in the media, including Time Magazine[5] and the New York Times.[6][7] He has appeared as a guest on many radio and television shows, including 60 Minutes, 20/20, Nightline, and numerous network news reports.[citation needed]

Research and publications

Since 1964, Breggin has published on his major topic of interest, clinical psychopharmacology. He wrote dozens of other articles, several book chapters, and more than twenty books. Many of Breggin's more recent articles are published in the peer-reviewed journal he co-founded with David Cohen and Steven Baldwin, Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, and in The International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine as well as in other scientific journals such as Primary Psychiatry (2006),[8] and the Journal of Humanistic Psychology (2000).[9] Breggin wrote his first peer-reviewed articles in the arena of psychopharmacology in 1964 and 1965.[10][11] Many of his published articles discuss psychiatric medication, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) drug approval process, the evaluation of clinical trials, and the ethics of psychiatric practice. According to the Web of Science, Breggin's work has been cited by more than 700 publications, with an h-index of 20.[12]

In 1971, Breggin founded the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology (ICSPP)www.psychintegrity.org, a nonprofit research and educational network. The center is concerned with the impact of mental health theory and practices upon individual well-being, personal freedom, and family and community values. As of July 2008, the center has a board of directors composed of 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, counselors and other professionals in the mental health field.[13] The center holds annual scientific conferences that are open to the public. In 1999, the Center began to publish Ethical Human Sciences and Services (EHSS), which was later renamed Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry. The peer-reviewed journal is published by Springer Publishing Company (no affiliation with Springer Verlag[14]), and "is the official journal of the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry".[15] The stated goal of EHSS is to, "raise the level of scientific knowledge and ethical discourse, while empowering professionals who are devoted to principled human sciences and services unsullied by professional and economic interests."[16] According to the Scopus database, since its inception the most citations it has received in a year is 13.[17] In 2002, Breggin encouraged younger professionals to take over the leadership of ICSPP and Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry.[citation needed] Peter Breggin is not currently on the Board of Directors of ICSPP, does not participate in board meetings, and has no role within the organization.

While he's not conducted clinical drug trials, Breggin's critiques[18] and reviews[2] of the scientific literature are published in peer-reviewed journals such as Primary Psychiatry,[19] Brain and Cognition,[20] Mind and Behavior,[21] and the Archives of General Psychiatry.[22][23][24][25]

Conventional psychiatry

A large portion of Breggin's work concentrates on the iatrogenic effects (negative side effects) of psychiatric medications, arguing that the harmful side effects typically outweigh any benefit. Breggin also argues that psychosocial interventions are almost always superior in treating mental illness. He has argued against psychoactive drugs, electroshock (ECT), psychosurgery, coercive involuntary treatment, and biological theories of psychiatry.

According to Breggin, the pharmaceutical industry propagates disinformation which is accepted by unsuspecting doctors, saying "the psychiatrist accepts the bad science that establishes the existence of all these mental diseases in the first place. From there it’s just a walk down the street to all the drugs as remedies". He points out problems with conflicts-of-interest (such as the financial relationships between drug companies, researchers, and the American Psychiatric Association). Breggin states psychiatric drugs, "...are all, every class of them, highly dangerous". He asserts: "If neuroleptics were used to treat anyone other than mental patients, they would have been banned a long time ago. If their use wasn't supported by powerful interest groups, such as the pharmaceutical industry and organized psychiatry, they would be rarely used at all. Meanwhile, the neuroleptics have produced the worst epidemic of neurological disease in history. At the least, their use should be severely curtailed."[26]

In his book, Reclaiming Our Children, he calls for the ethical treatment of children. Breggin argues that the mistreatment of children is a national (U.S.) tragedy, including psychiatric diagnoses and prescription of drugs for children whose needs were not otherwise met. He especially objects to prescribing psychiatric medications to children, arguing that it distracts from their real needs in the family and schools, and is potentially harmful to their developing brains and nervous systems.[27]

ADHD and Ritalin

The New York Times has labeled Breggin as the nation's best-known Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) critic. As early as 1991 he sardonically coined the acronym DADD, stating, "...most so-called ADHD children are not receiving sufficient attention from their fathers who are separated from the family, too preoccupied with work and other things, or otherwise impaired in their ability to parent. In many cases the appropriate diagnosis is Dad Attention Deficit Disorder (DADD)". Breggin has written two books specifically on the topic entitled, Talking Back to Ritalin and The Ritalin Factbook. In these books he has made controversial claims, such as "Ritalin 'works' by producing malfunctions in the brain rather than by improving brain function. This is the only way it works".[28]

Together with Fred Baughman, Breggin testified about ADHD to the United States Congress. In Congress Breggin claimed "that there were no scientific studies validating ADHD", that children diagnosed with ADHD needed "discipline and better instruction" rather than psychiatric drugs, and that therapeutic stimulants "are the most addictive drugs known in medicine today."[29] Baughman and Breggin were also the major critics in a PBS Frontline TV series about ADHD entitled 'Medicating Kids'.[30] In an interview during this time period he referred to ADHD as a fiction. This increased critical attention to Ritalin resulted in the Ritalin class action lawsuits against Novartis, the American Psychiatric Association (APA), and CHADD in which the plaintiffs sued for fraud. Specifically, they charged that the defendants had conspired to invent and promote the disorder ADHD to create a highly profitable market for the drug Ritalin. All five lawsuits were dismissed or withdrawn before they went to trial.

Breggin has been very critical of psychologist Russell Barkley's work on ADHD claiming that he exaggerates the benefits of stimulants and minimizes their hazards.[31]

SSRI antidepressants

In the early 1990s, Breggin suggested there were problems with the methodology in the research of SSRI antidepressants. As early as 1991 in Talking Back to Prozac, he warned that Prozac was causing violence, suicide and mania. Breggin elaborated on this theme in many subsequent books and articles about newer antidepressants. In 2005, the FDA began requiring black box warnings on SSRIs, warning of an association between SSRI use and suicidal behavior in children,[32] and later extended it to young adults. New general warnings were added along with the aforementioned black box warnings. These warnings confirmed many of the adverse effects first emphasized by Breggin in Toxic Psychiatry with specific mentions by the FDA of drug-induced "hostility," "irritability," and "mania". In 2006, the FDA expanded the warnings to include adults taking Paxil, which is associated with a higher risk of suicidal behavior as compared to a placebo.[33]

In contrast to Breggin's Talking Back to Prozac, which was largely ignored by the press on its release, Prozac Backlash, a critique of SSRIs by Harvard psychiatrist Joseph Glenmullen was widely praised by high-profile media sources.[34] Breggin complained about this in a subsequent book, The Antidepressant Fact Book:
"Glenmullen's (2000) scientific analysis of how SSRIs can cause suicide, violence, and other behavioral aberrations is essentially the same as my earlier detailed analyses... my hundreds of media appearances, and my testimony in court cases that Glenmullen also had available. Glenmullen also interviewed my wife and coauthor Ginger Breggin for his book and was sent research documents from our files that he was otherwise unable to obtain. Disappointingly, in his book, Glenmullen literally expurgates our contribution, never mentioning my origination of the ideas he was espousing and never acknowledging my efforts.... Nonetheless, his book provides a service...."[35]

In 1994, Breggin said that Eli Lilly and Company (maker of the antidepressant Prozac) attempted to discredit him and his book Talking Back to Prozac by linking him to the Church of Scientology and labeling his views as "Neo-Scientology."[36] Breggin denied any connection to Scientology.[36] Breggin later clarified that he was still in agreement with some of CCHR's anti-psychiatric views, supporting Tom Cruise's public stance against psychiatry.[37]

ECT

Breggin has written several books and scientific articles critical of electroconvulsive therapy. He claims that "...the damage produces delirium so severe that patients can't fully experience depression or other higher mental functions during the several weeks after electroshock". He was one of nineteen speakers at the 1985 NIH Consensus Development Conference on ECT. The Consensus panel (of which Breggin was not a member) found that ECT could be a useful therapy in some carefully defined cases.[38]

Expert witness

On November 20, 2012, a New York State Supreme Court jury awarded $1.5 million malpractice verdict to the family of a man who committed suicide while taking psychiatric drugs, including antidepressants. [39] Dr Breggin was the expert witness for the family. [40]

On September 16, 2011 in Winnipeg, Canada, a Provincial judge cited Breggin’s testimony in concluding that Prozac caused a sixteen-year-old boy to knife a friend to death, noting that, "Dr. Breggin's explanation of the effect Prozac was having on C.J.P.'s behavior both before that day and in committing an impulsive, inexplicable violent act that day corresponds with the evidence."[41] About the boy, Judge Robert Heinrichs determined, "His basic normalcy now further confirms he no longer poses a risk of violence to anyone and that his mental deterioration and resulting violence would not have taken place without exposure to Prozac."[42]

In South Carolina, Breggin testified on behalf of Peggy S. Salters, a psychiatric nurse who sued her doctors and Palmetto Baptist Hospital after ECT left her incapacitated in 2000. A jury found in favor of her and awarded her $635,177 in actual damages.[43]

Breggin testified as an expert witness in the Wesbecker case (Fentress et al., 1994), a lawsuit against Eli Lilly, makers of Prozac. Ultimately, the jury found for Eli Lilly. Breggin later claimed that this was because the plaintiffs and defendants had secretly settled behind closed doors.[44] The Supreme Court of Kentucky concluded that the Wesbecker trial had been secretly settled by Eli Lilly before going to the jury in return for defendants presenting a weakened case that was bound to lose. Trial Judge Potter was empowered by the Kentucky Supreme Court to change the verdict from a jury verdict in favor of Eli Lilly to "settled with prejudice" by Eli Lilly. [45][46][47]

Breggin alleges that pharmaceutical manufacturers, particularly Eli Lilly, have committed ad hominem attacks upon him in the form of linking him to Scientology campaigns against psychiatric drugs. Breggin acknowledges that he did work with Scientology starting in 1972, but states that by 1974 he "found [himself] opposed to Scientology's values, agenda, and tactics", and in consequence "stopped all cooperative efforts in 1974 and publicly declared [his] criticism of the group in a letter published in Reason."[48] Breggin has also stated that he has a personal reason to dislike Scientology: His wife, Ginger, was once a Scientologist,[48][49] and when they first met she was urged by other Scientologists to have no association with him because he was not also.

Several judges have questioned Breggin's credibility as an expert witness. For example, a Maryland judge in a medical malpractice case in 1995 said, "I believe that his bias in this case is blinding... he was mistaken in a lot of the factual basis for which he expressed his opinion."[50] In that same year a Virginia judge excluded Breggin's testimony stating, "This court finds that the evidence of Peter Breggin, as a purported expert, fails nearly all particulars under the standard set forth in Daubert and its progeny.... Simply put, the Court believes that Dr. Breggin's opinions do not rise to the level of an opinion based on 'good science.'"[51][52] [53]

In 2002, Breggin was hired as an expert witness by a survivor of the Columbine High School massacre in a case against the makers of an anti-depressant drug. In his report, Breggin failed to mention the Columbine incident or one of the killers, instead focusing on the medication taken by the other, "...Eric Harris was suffering from a substance induced (Luvox-induced) mood disorder with depressive and manic features that had reached a psychotic level of violence and suicide. Absent persistent exposure to Luvox, Eric Harris probably would not have committed violence and suicide."[54] However, according to The Denver Post, the judge of the case "...was visibly angry that the experts failed to view evidence prior to their depositions" even though they had months to do so. The evidence would have included hundreds of documents including a significant amount of video and audio tape that the killers had recorded. The judge stated, "...lawyers will be free to attack them on the basis of the evidence they haven't seen and haven't factored into their opinions."[55] The lawsuit was eventually dropped with the stipulation that the makers of Luvox donate $10,000 to the American Cancer Society.[54]

In 2005, the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas disqualified the testimony of Breggin because it did not meet the scientific rigor established by the Frye standard. The judge stated "...Breggin spends 14 pages critiquing the treatment provided not because it ran counter to the acceptable standards of care, but because it ran counter to Breggin's personal ideas and ideologies of what the standards ought to be.”[56]

Criticism

Due to his outspoken criticisms of many aspects of psychiatry, Breggin has become a controversial figure who is regularly at odds with the mental health establishment.[57] He uses terms like "fraud" to describe the biological and genetic theories of mental disorders. He is critical of the medications used to treat these disorders, and the political process that determines the labels used for diagnosing mental disorders. He has also consistently warned about conflict of interest problems.[49] These claims often challenge accepted standards of care within the mental health field and have led to highly critical rebuttals.[58]

In 1987, NAMI brought a complaint against Breggin with licensure board of the State of Maryland. NAMI was upset about remarks he made on The Oprah Winfrey Show on April 2, 1987. On the TV show, Breggin stated that mental health clients should judge their clinicians in terms of their empathy and support; if they failed to show interest in them and tried to prescribe drugs during the first session, he advised such clients to seek assistance elsewhere. He also pointed out the iatrogenic effects of neuroleptic drugs. He was defended by a diverse group of psychiatrists and others who defended his right to publicly state his critical opinion.[6] Breggin was cleared of any wrongdoing by the Maryland medical board, which thanked him for his contribution to mental health in Maryland.[7] Time magazine has noted that other mental health professionals worry that "Breggin reinforces the myth that mental illness is not real, that you wouldn't be ill if you'd pull yourself up by the bootstraps...his views stop people from getting treatment. They could cost a life."[5] However, despite this concern, an emphasis on a purely biological explanation of mental illness has actually been associated with an increase in stigma instead of a decrease by at least two studies.[59][60]


Professional Books
Breggin, Peter R. (2012). Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and their Families, New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, P.R. (2009). Wow, I’m an American! How to Live Like Our Nation’s Heroic Founders. Lake Edge Press. ISBN 978-0-9824560-1-9.
Breggin, P.R. (2008). Medication Madness: A Psychiatrist Exposes the Dangers of Mood-Altering Medications. New York: St. Martin's Press.
Breggin, P.R. (2008). Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry: Drugs, Electroshock and the Psychopharmaceutical Complex, Second Edition. New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, P.R. and Cohen, D. (2007). Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications, Second Edition. Cambridge MA: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. Breggin, G.R., and Bemak, F. (Editors) (2002). Dimensions of Empathic Therapy. New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, P.R. (2002). The Ritalin Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You. Cambridge: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. (2001). The Anti-Depressant Fact Book: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, and Luvox. Cambridge: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. (2001). Talking Back to Ritalin: What Doctors Aren't Telling You About Stimulants and ADHD. Revised. Cambridge: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. (2000). Reclaiming Our Children: A Healing Solution for a Nation in Crisis. Cambridge MA: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. and Cohen, D. (1999) Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why To Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications Cambridge, MA: Perseus Books.
Breggin, P.R. and Ginger, G.R. (1998). The war against children of color. Psychiatry Targets Inner City Youth. Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press.
Breggin, P.R. (1997). Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry: Drugs, Electroshock and the Role of the FDA New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, P.R. (1997; new paperback edition 2006). The Heart of Being Helpful: Empathy and the Creation of a Healing Presence. New York: Spinger Publishing Company.
Breggin, P.R. (senior editor) Psychosocial Approaches to Deeply Disturbed Persons (1996) New York: Haworth Press.
Breggin, P.R. and Breggin, G.R. (1994). The War Against Children: How the Drugs, Programs, and Theories of the Psychiatric Establishment Are Threatening America's Children with a Medical 'Cure' for Violence New York: St. Martin's Press.
Breggin, P.R. and Breggin, G. R. (1994). Talking Back To Prozac: What Doctors Aren't Telling You About Today's Most Controversial Drug. New York: St. Martin's Press.
Breggin, P.R. (1992). Beyond Conflict: From Self-Help and Psychotherapy to Peacemaking. New York: St. Martin's Press.
Breggin, P.R. (1991). Toxic Psychiatry: Why Therapy, Empathy and Love Must Replace the Drugs, Electroshock, and Biochemical Theories of the "New Psychiatry" New York: St. Martin's Press.
Breggin, Peter R. Psychiatric Drugs: Hazards to the Brain (1983). New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, Peter R. Electroshock: Its Brain-Disabling Effects(1979). New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Breggin, Peter R., with co-authors Carter Umbarger, James Dalsimer, Andrew Morrison (1962). College Students in a Mental Hospital: Contribution to the Social Rehabilitation of the Mentally Ill New York: Grune & Stratton.
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Selected articles
Breggin, P.R. (2011). Psychiatric drug-induced Chronic Brain Impairment (CBI): Implications for long-term tratment with psychiatric medication. International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine, 23, 193-200. PMID: 22156084
Breggin, P.R. (2010). Antidepressant-induced suicide, violence, and mania: Risks for military personnel." Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 12, 111-121.
Breggin, P.R., Marks D., Braslow D. (2008) Homicidal ideation causally related to therapeutic medications. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 10, 134-145.
Breggin, P.R., Breggin, G.R. (2008) Exposure to SSRI antidepressants in utero causes birth defects, neonatal withdrawal symptoms and brain damage. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 10, 5-9, 2008.
Breggin, P.R. (2007) ECT damages the brain: Disturbing news for patients and shock doctors alike. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 9, 83-86.
Breggin, P.R. (2006). Court filing makes public my previously suppressed analysis of Paxil's effects. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 8, 77–84. PMID 16862720
Breggin, P.R. (2006). How GlaxoSmithKline suppressed data on Paxil-induced akathisia: Implications for suicide and violence. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 8, 91–100.
Breggin, P.R. (2006). Drug company suppressed data on paroxetine-induced stimulation: Implications for violence and suicide.” Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 8, 255–263.
Breggin, P.R. (2006). Intoxication anosognosia: The spellbinding effect of psychiatric drugs. Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, 8, 201–215. Simultaneously published in the International Journal of Risk and Safety and Medicine, 19, 3–15, 2007.
Breggin, P.R. (2004). Recent U.S., Canadian and British regulatory agency actions concerning antidepressant-induced harm to self and others: A review and analysis. International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine,16, 247–259.
Breggin, P.R. (2003). Suicidality, violence and mania caused by selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs): A review and analysis. International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine, 16, 31–49.
Breggin, P.R. (2000). The NIMH multimodal study of treatment for Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder: A critical analysis. International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine, 13,15–22.
Breggin, P.R. (2000). What psychologists and psychotherapists need to know about ADHD and stimulants. Changes: An International Journal of Psychology and Psychotherapy,18,13–23.
Breggin, P.R. (1999). Psychostimulants in the treatment of children diagnosed with ADHD: Risks and mechanism of action. International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine, 12, 3–35.
Breggin, P.R. (1999). Psychiatry's reliance on coercion. Ethical Human Sciences and Services, 1(2), 115–8. PMID 15586456
Breggin, P.R. (1998). Psychotherapy in emotional crises without resort to psychiatric medication. The Humanistic Psychologist, 25, 2–14.
Breggin, P.R. (1998). Analysis of adverse behavioral effects of benzodiazepines with a discussion on drawing scientific conclusions from the FDA's spontaneous reporting system. Journal of Mind and Behavior, 19(1), 21–50.
Breggin, P.R. (1998). Electroshock: Scientific, ethical, and political issues. International Journal of Risk & Safety In Medicine 11:5–40, 1998.
Breggin, P.R. (1994). Should the use of neuroleptics be severely limited? Controversial Issues in Mental Health, edited by S.A. Kirk and S.D. Einbinder, pp. 146–152.
Breggin, P.R. (1993). Parallels Between Neuroleptic Effects and Lethargic Encephalitis: The Production of Dyskinesias and Cognitive disorders. Brain and Cognition 23:8–27, 1993. PMID 8105824
Breggin, P.R. (1992). A Case of Fluoxetine-induced Stimulant Side Effects with Suicidal Ideation Associated with a Possible Withdrawal Syndrome (‘Crashing’). International Journal of Risk & Safety in Medicine 3:325–328, 1992
Breggin, P.R. (1990). Brain damage, dementia and persistent cognitive dysfunction associated with neuroleptic drugs: Evidence, etiology, implications. Journal of Mind and Behavior, 11(4), 425–464.
Breggin, P.R. (1986). Neuropathology and cognitive dysfunction From ECT (Electroconvulsive/"shock" therapy). Psychopharmacology Bulletin , 22, 476–479.
Breggin, P.R. (1982). The return of lobotomy and psychosurgery. Reprinted in R.B. Edwards (ed.): Psychiatry and Ethics. Buffalo, Prometheus Books, 1982. Published earlier in Quality of Health Care-Human Experimentation: Hearings Before Senator Edward Kennedy's Subcommittee on Health, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C., US Government Printing Office, 1973.
Breggin, P.R. (1982). Coercion of voluntary patients in an open hospital. In R.B. Edwards(ed): Psychiatry and Ethics. Prometheus Books, 1982. Reprinted from Breggin, P.R. (1964). Archives of General Psychiatry, 10, 173–181. PMID 14081584
Breggin, P.R. (1981). Madness is a surrender of free will; therapy too often encourages it. A libertarian view of psychology and psychiatry. The Psychiatric Quarterly, 53(1):60-8. PMID 7255624
Breggin, P.R. (1980). Brain-disabling therapies. In E. Valenstein (ed.), The Psychosurgery Debate, W.H. Freeman, San Francisco, CA, 1980.
Breggin, P.R. (1975). Psychosurgery for the Control of violence: A critical review. In W. Fields and W. Sweet (eds.), Neural Bases of Violence and Aggression, Warren H. Green, Inc., St. Louis, MO, 350–378.
Breggin, P.R. (1975). Psychosurgery for political purposes. Duquesne Law Review, 13(4), 841–62. PMID 11661268
Breggin, P.R. (1975). Psychiatry and psychotherapy as political processes. American Journal of Psychotherapy, 29(3), 369–82. PMID 1163692
Breggin, P.R. (1974). Underlying a method: is psychosurgery an acceptable treatment for "hyperactivity" in children? Mental Hygiene, 58(1), 19–21. PMID 11662144
Breggin, P.R. (1974). Therapy as applied utopian politics. Mental Health and Society, 1(3–4), 129–46. PMID 4619904
Breggin, P.R. (1973). The second wave. Mental Hygiene, 57(1), 10–3. PMID 11664197
Breggin, P.R. (1972). The politics of therapy. Mental Hygiene, 56(3), 9–12. PMID 5070420
Breggin, P.R. (1971). Psychotherapy as applied ethics. Psychiatry, 34, 59–75. PMID 5541631
Breggin, P.R. (1965). The sedative-like effect of epinephrine. Archives of General Psychiatry 12:255–259. PMID 14246173
Breggin, P.R. (1964). The psychophysiology of anxiety; with a review of the literature concerning adrenaline. Journal of Nervous Mental Diseases 139:558–568. PMID 14243200

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin


Peter Breggin, MD - FDA Testimony - December 2006

The "Quack" Dr. Peter Breggin was called to testify in front of Congress- How many times have you been asked to do that?



Here he is on O'reilly back when Fox recognized the potential problem, before the $ convinced them otherwise



Quack? Suit yourself.
 
The other thread regarding this wwas much better discussion, I thought. Seems like this one is just here to derail the more relevant discussion. Just my opinion. And it's been left that way too. Interesting.
 
I read his writing and his biography. I watch his videos. Sorry he is not making a convincing case, especially with his partial denial of mental illness. Why don't you read and watch some of Steven Novella's material. A Yale Neurologist who is also skeptical of all the mental illness denial. No, he does not get funding from Big Pharma. I have no idea why Breggin is a hero nor why he is used in the majority of court cases. Good for him, there is too little psychotherapy in psychiatry today. Thats the good thing i will say. I have no idea why big Pharma gets the hatred it gets. i certainly is protectionist and government run, but i don't know why people hate its numerous applications just because we can;t save 100% of the people. Oh, and all those "bogus" studies are A.Peer Reviewed, B. Replicated, C. Are under scientific suspicion. Hard Science has some of the highest standards in the country. And yet, a lot of libertarians think it is a government conspiracy to make us all unhealthy slaves. I myself am Autistic and have Tourettes. I take Anti psychotics. And just because of the actions of a few people, I (a responsible student) can't own a damn gun.
 
Yeah, Read PubMed articles on SSRI's they aren;t so big pharma is good. I take an antipsychotic, i haven't killed anyone yet.

I am pissed that there are some people here that want to ban psych med patients from getting guns or enjoying the same freedoms that the Ron Paul supporters espouse.

I want to live in a Ron Paul America Where ANYBODY of sound mind can get a gun. If i can't get a gun because i take an antipsychotic, then F*** YOU ALL, Because you are no less evil than the leftist who peddle gun control.

I never shot a gun in my life, i plan to soon.

Got it.

Wait.

No I don't.

And I'll pass on the shooting session thanks. What? I wasn't invited? :confused:
 
...I have no idea why big Pharma gets the hatred it gets. i certainly is protectionist and government run, but i don't know why people hate its numerous applications just because we can;t save 100% of the people. Oh, and all those "bogus" studies are A.Peer Reviewed, B. Replicated, C. Are under scientific suspicion. Hard Science has some of the highest standards in the country. And yet, a lot of libertarians think it is a government conspiracy to make us all unhealthy slaves. I myself am Autistic and have Tourettes. I take Anti psychotics. And just because of the actions of a few people, I (a responsible student) can't own a damn gun.

Well for just one example (don't really have time right now to bring a laundry list, but maybe later- I'm motivated) bribing foreign officials, like Eli Lilly did, doesn't strike me as something to be celebrated but that's just me

Do you see a problem with bribing foreign officials so they can dump more of their poison in other countries to more people that don't need their violence inducing crap? I do.

Drug maker Eli Lilly hit with foreign bribery charges

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Drug maker Eli Lilly has agreed to pay more than $29 million to settle charges that four of its international subsidiaries paid bribes to win business, the Securities and Exchange Commission announced Thursday.

The SEC charged Eli Lilly (LLY, Fortune 500) with violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act due to payments made to government officials and associates by the company's subsidiaries in Russia, Brazil, China and Poland.

In Russia, the SEC complaint alleges, Lilly's subsidiary paid millions of dollars for nonexistent "marketing agreements" between 1994 and 2005 to offshore companies linked to government officials. Even after becoming aware of these potential violations, the U.S. parent company did nothing to stop the use of such agreements for more than five years, the SEC says.

"When a parent company learns tell-tale signs of a bribery scheme involving a subsidiary, it must take immediate action," SEC associate enforcement director Antonia Chion said in a statement.

Lilly units in Brazil and Poland were accused of paying smaller bribes, together totally around $109,000. In China, a Lilly subsidiary allegedly falsified expense reports to cover gifts including spa treatments and jewelry to government doctors.

Lilly settled without admitting or denying the allegations, as is common in SEC cases.

"Lilly requires our employees to act with integrity with all external parties and in accordance with all applicable laws and regulations," Anne Nobles, Lilly's chief ethics and compliance officer, said in a statement.

"We have cooperated with the U.S. government throughout this investigation and have strengthened our internal controls and compliance program globally, including significant investment in our global anti-corruption program."

In August, fellow pharmaceutical giant Pfizer (PFE, Fortune 500) paid $60 million to settle charges that its subsidiaries had paid bribes in countries including China, Russia, Italy and Serbia.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/20/news/companies/eli-lilly/index.html

How about these things:

Lawsuits

one of three cases to ever go to trial for SSRI indication in suicide, a Kentucky man, Joseph Wesbecker, who had been on Prozac, went to his workplace and opened fire, killing seven people and injuring 12 others before turning the gun on himself. The jury returned a 9-to-3 verdict in favor of Lilly. The case's judge, however, took the matter to the Kentucky Supreme Court, which found that "there was a serious lack of candor with the trial court and there may have been deception, bad faith conduct, abuse of judicial process and, perhaps even fraud." The judge later revoked the verdict and instead recorded the case as settled. The value of the secret settlement deal has never been disclosed.

In June 2008, Eli Lilly and Company agreed to settle a lawsuit stemming from discrimination charges. The lawsuit alleged that the company withheld severance pay in order to convince a former employee, Starr E. Johnson, to withdraw her lawsuit. Eli Lilly was accused by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission of violating the federal anti-discrimination law when they withheld severance benefits to Johnson. Johnson originally filed a discrimination charge after she was fired in 2005. She is a black woman and became disfigured in 1997 when she was exposed to a blood pathogen. Her charge claimed that her supervisor stated that he was put in charge "so that he could watch her and get rid of her and that no one liked looking at her." Eli Lilly was ordered to pay $54,400 in severance pay, $7,000 in interest and compensatory damages, along with $3,000 in attorney fees.[14]

Criminal prosecution
See also: Olanzapine#Controversy, lawsuits and settlements

Eli Lilly pleaded guilty to violating U.S. law in its marketing of its anti-psychotic drug Zyprexa (Olanzapine) and was ordered to pay $1.42billion to settle criminal and civil allegations in the fourth largest pharmaceutical settlement in U.S. history. Eli Lilly said it had entered a misdemeanor plea for violation of federal law in its off-label promotion of Zyprexa between September 1999 and March 2001 and agreed to pay $615 million.

The U.S. Justice Department said the criminal fine of $515 million was the largest ever in a health care case, and the largest criminal fine for an individual corporation ever imposed in a U.S. criminal prosecution of any kind. Lilly also agreed to forfeit $100 million in the settlement. However, the company is still pursuing legal action against the lawyer, James Gottstein, who helped publicize the issues by passing documents to The New York Times and other media outlets. "That was a blemish for us," John Lechleiter, CEO of Lilly, told The New York Times. "We don’t ever want that to happen again. We put measures in place to assure that not only do we have the right intentions in integrity and compliance, but we have systems in place to support that."[15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_and_Company

WHY AREN'T THESE EXECUTIVES IN JAIL like a person that grows a Cannabis plant?
Those are just a few examples pulled with about 3 minutes of search, highlight, copy, paste.
And those are examples from JUST ONE COMPANY.

There are quacks all right, they aren't the ones you are thinking of though...
 
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Got it.

Wait.

No I don't.

And I'll pass on the shooting session thanks. What? I wasn't invited? :confused:
I'll Clarify Peace Piper. I am pissed, some libertarians are increasing the stigma of responsible people who take psych meds. THE MAJORITY which are non-violent and are likely to be victims of the violent. I don't even think Adam Lanza was taking Fanapt, because the "uncle" turned out to be a fraud. I have Tourettes as well as Aspergers, the former requires a drug called Pimozide. I take 1 Mg a day. I am upset that some people are calling people like me Crazy. And then stigmatizing these patients by wanting to bar their gun rights. I am a Student, I am also a college applicant. I am responsible and I am a Libertarian. I don't infringe on people's rights unless they pose a risk to themselves which often leads to posing a risk to others. So, why is it that Unscientific Quacks like Mike Adams and at least 9% of the members of RPF want me to not own a gun?
 
Well for just one example (don't really have time right now to bring a laundry list, but maybe later- I'm motivated) bribing foreign officials, like Eli Lilly did, doesn't strike me as something to be celebrated but that's just me

Do you see a problem with bribing foreign officials so they can dump more of their poison in other countries to more people that don't need their violence inducing crap? I do.



How about these things:



WHY AREN'T THESE EXECUTIVES IN JAIL like a person that grows a Cannabis plant?

HmMM?
Because they have not done anything wrong unless they are in trial. I hope Eli Lilly are in trial. I think she paid the fines. Also I advocate for Drug Legalization.
 
CTM is not witchcraft. Perhaps you should only reply to topics you know something about.

I'm sure (100% positive) I know quite a bit more about medicine and science than you.

And also, if you think so-called Chinese Medicine is so great, how about the next time you get chest pain rather than undergo a 12 lead and troponins at a local ER, go get some acupuncture.
 
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I'm sure (100% positive) I know quite a bit more about medicine and science than you.

And also, if you think so-called Chinese Medicine is so great, how about the next time you get chest pain rather than undergo a 12 lead and troponins at a local ER, go get some acupuncture.

Wrong. I know this topic better than you. Acupuncture is done before you get the chest pain so you dont get a heart attack in the first place.
 
Wrong. I know this topic better than you. Acupuncture is done before you get the chest pain so you dont get a heart attack in the first place.

Thats good, Preventative medicine.

Also, You should listen to cbrons. PM him on why.
 
Wrong. I know this topic better than you. Acupuncture is done before you get the chest pain so you dont get a heart attack in the first place.

Interesting, I didn't happen to learn that in medical school. Getting poked with needles unblocks coronary arteries? Guess all that stenting that cardiologists do is a big scam after all.
 
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