Guns don't kill people, prescription SSRI's* do.

Yeah, Because your blood tells A LOT about your current condition. Blood tests are to
Evaluate how well organs—such as the kidneys, liver, thyroid, and heart—are working
Diagnose diseases and conditions such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, diabetes, anemia (uh-NEE-me-eh), and coronary heart disease
Find out whether you have risk factors for heart disease
Check whether medicines you're taking are working
Assess how well your blood is clotting
 
tttppp said:
I am not sure what your point is. Wasting time in school doesnt make you better than any qualified acupuncturist. And part of the reason acupuncturists dont waste that much time in school is because their profession doesnt make up new bullshit drugs every year that do nothing. CTM has worked for thousands of years, so there is no need to change it. Plus acupuncturists get much better as they get more practice, many of them learning as kids from their parents. Something doctors dont get a chance to do.
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Really? Waste? The Acupuncture School does nothing for science education, Maybe some good anatomy. Medical school is learning how to apply hard science into healing. Its both an art and a science. The first 2 years equal hard ass work in the lab AND classroom time. The "waste" is how one becomes Scientifically AND Medically literate. The system is to breed scientific literacy and evidence based application.AND making sure of Quality control. Thats why there is testing, CME's and conventions for researchers and practitioners. Are there flaws. Yes. MEdicine is too regulated, corporatist and in bed with State governments. Does that mean it should be discredited. No. HARD Science is probably the best way to evaluate and see life. Aside from libertarianism.
 
Peace Piper said:


Throwing this into some of their faces has lead to some interesting responses.

Mostly, it's just ignored:

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Sometimes they actually start bashing MM, then total confusion sets in and they give up.

Here's their numero uno Gun Grabber Extraordinaire saying -- almost shouting-- that it might be the DRUGS!
They Can't Handle The Truth!! Even when it's rubbed into their filthy hypocritical faces.

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That's Robert F. Kennedy's 9th kid Douglas Harriman Kennedy!
Double Fun!
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Where did Michael Moore get his M.D. or Pharm.D?
 
pochy1776 said:
Yeah, Because your blood tells A LOT about your current condition. Blood tests are to
Evaluate how well organs—such as the kidneys, liver, thyroid, and heart—are working
Diagnose diseases and conditions such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, diabetes, anemia (uh-NEE-me-eh), and coronary heart disease
Find out whether you have risk factors for heart disease
Check whether medicines you're taking are working
Assess how well your blood is clotting
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Most of that can be done in CTM without checking your blood. Plus they can diagnose chronic diseases way better than some bullshit blood test. Not to mention CTM has cures for most of those problems while doctors can do nothing but give your disease a name.
 
pochy1776 said:
Really? Waste? The Acupuncture School does nothing for science education, Maybe some good anatomy. Medical school is learning how to apply hard science into healing. Its both an art and a science. The first 2 years equal hard ass work in the lab AND classroom time. The "waste" is how one becomes Scientifically AND Medically literate. The system is to breed scientific literacy and evidence based application.AND making sure of Quality control. Thats why there is testing, CME's and conventions for researchers and practitioners. Are there flaws. Yes. MEdicine is too regulated, corporatist and in bed with State governments. Does that mean it should be discredited. No. HARD Science is probably the best way to evaluate and see life. Aside from libertarianism.
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Western medicine is there if you have a broken bone or heart attack. Its almost completely worthless for fixing chronic diseases.
 
I have a question about this.
Do these scary drugs include bipolar disorder drugs? I know a couple people who have serious problems with anger.
 
tttppp said:
Western medicine is there if you have a broken bone or heart attack. Its almost completely worthless for fixing chronic diseases.
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Did you even read my post? Or are you so in love with unregulated (not always a good thing) QUACKS whose science education only include high school biology.

No. Not Cancer, Tourettes, Schizophrenia, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Hypertension, Osteoporosis, Sickle Cell Anemia, Cerebral Palsy and Celiacs. I am starting a lot of people take medicine for granted. CANCER MORTALITY IS DOWN, Schizophrenia can now be fixed (Most mental hospitals are now empty because of the wonders of SSRI's and antipsychotics. Talk to a damn mental patient pre drug and post drug), Those with Celiacs can now live like normal people, People can be obese and have a healthy heart,I don't tick anymore.
 
squarepusher said:
Do you have evidence Adam Lanza was on prescription drugs?
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afwjam said:
There is very little evidence of him in the past couple years. Multiple stories have been run saying he was medicated.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/15/1170258/--He-was-on-medication
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Multiple stories from who? A single neighbor said he was medicated for personality disorder? Huh?? Which one??? Why?? I need something more solid. And even if he had a prescription for something, I wanna know just how compliant he was. And even if he was on an SSRI and he was taking it regularly, that is far from evidence that the drug itself caused him to commit mass murder.

I'm interviewing Dr. Peter Breggin on my radio show next Saturday to talk about this, among other psychotropic drug-related things.

TywinLannister said:
This is like blaming diet sodas for causing obesity. People with mental illness are more likely to take antidepressants. So when a crazy person does something crazy, chances are good that he was taking one of these drugs. Correlation does not imply causation. The vast majority of people taking these drugs have mild depression and don't do crazy things. This is the same logic liberals use to blame guns for crime.
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word for word what I said on my show yesterday in the last 8-9 minutes.
 
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cbrons said:
Multiple stories from who? A single neighbor said he was medicated for personality disorder? Huh?? Which one??? Why?? I need something more solid. And even if he had a prescription for something, I wanna know just how compliant he was. And even if he was on an SSRI and he was taking it regularly, that is far from evidence that the drug itself caused him to commit mass murder.

I'm interviewing Dr. Peter Breggin on my radio show next Saturday to talk about this, among other psychotropic drug-related things.



word for word what I said on my show yesterday in the last 8-9 minutes.
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The Quack who thinks therapy can fix everything and abdicated from Harvard to go to SUNY? Yeah, Szasz must have done a good job.
 
tttppp said:
Most of that can be done in CTM without checking your blood. Plus they can diagnose chronic diseases way better than some bullshit blood test. Not to mention CTM has cures for most of those problems while doctors can do nothing but give your disease a name.
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Hmm......
Chemotherapy is used to shrink tumors before they metastasize, If it doesn't work, they do surgery. IN MOST CASES, it works. These "bullshit blood tests" save lives. Please enlighten me on how CTM can diagnose and cure these diseases.

Western Medicine recommends
Diabetics- Eat less sugar and fat. Eat smaller portions, exercise and check blood sugar if your a Type-1.
HIV/AIDS- Take a prescription drug, get treatment at a hospital regularly. People used to die (kinda a good thing if you hate humanity.)
Coronary Heart disease- Prescription after Diet and Exercise don't work. Surgery.
Anemia-Blood transfusions

Corticosteroids or other medicines that suppress the immune system

Erythropoietin, a medicine that helps your bone marrow make more blood cells

Supplements of iron, vitamin B12, folic acid, or other vitamins and minerals
 
tttppp said:
Most of that can be done in CTM without checking your blood. Plus they can diagnose chronic diseases way better than some bullshit blood test. Not to mention CTM has cures for most of those problems while doctors can do nothing but give your disease a name.
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I will concede one point. Naturopathic, Alternative or Complimentary Medicine practitioners treat their patients better than most physicians. Most of these practitioners sped at least an hour taking a good detailed history. They also explain their methods more often and in better laymen terms. Its almost a source of psychotherapy.
 
Sorry to interupt your bickering but, for the people that say that SSRI's are no different than... guns don't kill people, people do.... is ridiculous, those drugs are hardcore personality fluctuators, they literally change the way that brain works.
 
Yeah, Read PubMed articles on SSRI's they aren;t so big pharma is good. I take an antipsychotic, i haven't killed anyone yet.

I am pissed that there are some people here that want to ban psych med patients from getting guns or enjoying the same freedoms that the Ron Paul supporters espouse. I want to live in a Ron Paul America Where ANYBODY of sound mind can get a gun. If i can't get a gun because i take an antipsychotic, then F*** YOU ALL, Because you are no less evil than the leftist who peddle gun control.
I never shot a gun in my life, i plan to soon.
 
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Chinese Traditional medicine?

And you are saying this witchcraft is better than a hospital outfitted with the latest equipment and people with 12+ years of evidence-based medical education?

Are you on an SSRI? I think you may be having a rare bit of serotonin syndrome w/ strong delusions.
 
cbrons said:
Chinese Traditional medicine?

And you are saying this witchcraft is better than a hospital outfitted with the latest equipment and people with 12+ years of evidence-based medical education?

Are you on an SSRI? I think you may be having a rare bit of serotonin syndrome w/ strong delusions.
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Don't insult like i have been doing. I suck. I am on a Antipsychotic called Pimozide. Purpose is to treat Schizophrenics and Tourettes. I have Serious Tourettes.
 
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