Group of females corralled then pepper sprayed by cops, WTF? (NYC Protests)

[devil21]

If the cops were intending to arrest the folks being enclosed in the net for something that happened prior to the beginning of the video (as I suspect), then I would say pepper spray was appropriate, as the folks in the net were resisting arrest.

Pure speculation.

If the cops were just randomly netting people and them pepper spraying them, obviously that is not appropriate.

Well at least you concede that much. That's what the video shows. Until you or the police can provide proof of anything deserving of netting like slaves and pepper spraying then it's brutality.

And no, blocking traffic is not an appropriate form of protest. You don't have the right to infringe on other people's right to travel and go about their daily business.

How is it "disobedience" when you're not disobeying anyone?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Here is another angle of the incident.



These hippie wannabes are angry that there are rich people, so they go out and block traffic, and generally act like animals. Nope, still not feeling sorry for them.

What led you to believe they were acting like animals?

You are pathetic. I want to say more, but suffice it to say you're a pretty sad human being.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

See the video above. THAT is civil disobedience. The protestors in the wall st video are not engaged in civil disobedience, they are just standing around screaming, blocking traffic, and making a nuisance of themselves. Are these really the types of people you want Ron Paul to be associated with?

Well, if everyone demonstrated by selling lemonade, we wouldn't be very successful in raising awareness to government tyranny, would we? Protests have to happen or else people think everything's hunky-dory when it's not.

 

[kylejack]

See the video above. THAT is civil disobedience. The protestors in the wall st video are not engaged in civil disobedience, they are just standing around screaming, blocking traffic, and making a nuisance of themselves. Are these really the types of people you want Ron Paul to be associated with?

They were on the sidewalk, sir.

 

[freeforall]

They were on the sidewalk, sir.

There are posts on their forums about blocking traffic protests. I'm guessing that was happening before the netting, but I can't be sure.

 

[kylejack]

There are posts on their forums about blocking traffic protests. I'm guessing that was happening before the netting, but I can't be sure.

Right, and if police need to clear people out of the road that is understandable, but these were passive protesters who were just taking pictures, and it isn't right to mace them. Police should only use the force necessary to effect an arrest or compliance. These people were not resisting at all and were not even making any attempt to escape the netting.

 

[freeforall]

I agree. Several posts mentioned we don't know what happening prior to the netting. I was giving my best guess for clarity.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Here is another example of a total melodramatic reaction. I don't like cops, but occasionally some people deserve a tasering or pepper spray.

LOL

She wanted it and got it, deserved it too.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

It looked to me like they weren't being blocked from the sides, only the front.

Regardless of the cause, those people have no right to block traffic on a public road that taxpayers pay for and utilize. What if somebody was being rushed to the hospital and couldn't arrive because of idiot hippies?

 

[kylejack]

It looked to me like they weren't being blocked from the sides, only the front.

Regardless of the cause, those people have no right to block traffic on a public road that taxpayers pay for and utilize. What if somebody was being rushed to the hospital and couldn't arrive because of idiot hippies?

They were penned in and were waiting. They weren't in the street, nor were they violent. They were maced just because.

 

[wannaberocker]

And no, blocking traffic is not an appropriate form of protest. You don't have the right to infringe on other people's right to travel and go about their daily business.

I agree.
They cost people trying to get to work valuable time and money.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

They were penned in and were waiting. They weren't in the street, nor were they violent. They were maced just because.

But it looked like they could have exited from the sides if they so choosed. They were being blocked off from the street.

Regardless of where they were, it wasn't their property. They disrupt business in the sidewalks and traffic in the streets. They are not about liberty, they are shrieking protestors that have no right to protest where and when they want. They are hippie women. Probably socialist.

 

[wannaberocker]

How is it "disobedience" when you're not disobeying anyone?

And if a protestor blocks traffic trying to be "Disobedient" and provents me from getting to work and thus costing me time and money. Should i then have the right to punch the disobedient protestor in the face to clear the way, so i can get to work?

 

[kylejack]

But it looked like they could have exited from the sides if they so choosed. They were being blocked off from the street.

Regardless of where they were, it wasn't their property. They disrupt business in the sidewalks and traffic in the streets. They are not about liberty, they are shrieking protestors that have no right to protest where and when they want. They are hippie women. Probably socialist.

It is a public sidewalk. The public is allowed to use public sidewalks. There were only a few of them, it isn't like they were preventing people from using the sidewalk. The police were, maybe.

Regardless, mace should not be used on people who are not even resisting arrest! Even socialists have rights.

 

[CCTelander]

Sadly, the most sickening thing about this thread ISN'T the police brutality shown in the vid.

 

[Sjmfury]

From what I have heard the Movement is GROWING rapidly. Though their message is to end government corruption I wish their means to doing so were better, socialism is NOT the Answer.

 

[AFPVet]

See the video above. THAT is civil disobedience. The protestors in the wall st video are not engaged in civil disobedience, they are just standing around screaming, blocking traffic, and making a nuisance of themselves. Are these really the types of people you want Ron Paul to be associated with?

Some of them were creating problems; however, those individuals were removed by other citizens. The people inside of the "zone" were doing nothing but peacefully demonstrating. If you think that was bad my friend, google the 60's protest videos! From a former LEO standpoint, the only criminal activity (with the exception of one rogue protestor) was done by a police officer. He should be brought up on charges... or at the very least, a disciplinary panel.

 

[devil21]

And if a protestor blocks traffic trying to be "Disobedient" and provents me from getting to work and thus costing me time and money. Should i then have the right to punch the disobedient protestor in the face to clear the way, so i can get to work?

It's unfortunate that you feel the need to resort to violence against a non-violent actor. You would fit in with the cops in the OP video. Please point out where you are protected from inconvenience in the Constitution. As Ron Paul himself has said, you have to put up with the "bad" exercising of freedom along with the "good".

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Don't know if this was posted, it's the official Police story:

The Police Department’s chief spokesman, Paul J. Browne, said the police had used the pepper spray “appropriately.”

“Pepper spray was used once,” he added, “after individuals confronted officers and tried to prevent them from deploying a mesh barrier — something that was edited out or otherwise not captured in the video.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/nyregion/videos-show-police-using-pepper-spray-at-protest.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Related thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Cop-Who-Pepper-Sprayed-Wall-Street-Protesters
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