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CEO of United Healthcare shot and killed in NYC

sparebulb

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Just like the title says, the CEO of United Healthcare was shot and killed this morning in NYC.

Is this random, targeted, or a drug-fueled h0m0 thing?

I must say, there have to be no shortage of people who have been cheated by corporate 'murika and especially in the healthcare/insurance field.

While I don't approve of murder, it does seem a bit cathartic knowing that the CEO class sometimes get some real life consequences.

 
It sure sounds targeted.

As usual the reporting is abominable on this story. I think the gunman probably made a clean getaway and TBH there's stuff that CEOs do just in their normal line of duties that would piss someone off to this point.

I can't speak for all corporations but I haven't worked for a company that actually fired people for like 16 years. It's gotten to the point where companies will just keep people on all year despite serious problems and then there's this whole dog-and-pony-show at the end of the year where they don't have enough resources to continue employing everyone and lay a bunch of people off. Most of the time everyone looks around at who's gone and realizes it's all dead weight - but good employees also regularly get caught in that net. And inevitably, after making all these sour faces about budgets, then they hand out bonuses.

I mean I'm not saying someone who would murder someone else for this is a good employee - just pointing out CEOs are generally all cowards who make bad decisions and hide behind imaginary budget constraints, so I'm not surprised one would be targeted.
 
I couldn't believe how many people on reddit were justifying this today. Even on the "conservative" sub there was a lot of that going on. Hope the guy gets found soon.
 
I must say, there have to be no shortage of people who have been cheated by corporate 'murika and especially in the healthcare/insurance field.

While I don't approve of murder, it does seem a bit cathartic knowing that the CEO class sometimes get some real life consequences.

The number of people who get "cheated" as a percentage is quite small, although they should work to minimize it.

This guy only made $10 million a year as CEO.. that's nothing. Rachael Maddow makes $30 million a year to lie on TV once a week..

Some of the claims should be denied, per the contract, some that should not end up getting denied sometimes due to the scaling problem, having tens of millions of customers.

The reason they deny claims is to reduce their expenses to lower the price of insurance for everyone else. Insurance is like $700/month, $8k per year. It's fucking insane. It's not the insurance companies' fault healthcare is such a mess and so expensive, it's the government's fault for being so involved in healthcare.
 
Thompson exercised stock options and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public, according to a Crain’s New York Business report from April.

The stock price dropped sharply after the revelation that the DOJ was investigating whether the company had made acquisitions that consolidated its market position in violation of antitrust laws, a source familiar with the probe told the outlet.

Thompson, 50, along with UnitedHealth Group chairman Stephen Helmsley, Chief People Officer Erin McSweeney and Chief Accounting Officer Tom Roos, sold a combined $101.5 million in shares, with Helmsley personally netting just shy of $85 million, according to the report.

The Change unit was breached by a hacking group called ALPHV, also known as "BlackCat." UnitedHealth first reported the breach on Feb. 21. The breach caused widespread disruptions in claims processing, impacting patients and providers across the country. In June, UnitedHealth issued a public notice about the ransomware hack as part of its requirements to notify the estimated one-third of the country whose private data may have been exposed in the attack.


As far as the stock is concerned, was it fear of the DOJ investigation or fear of bad news from hackers? I don't think it was pissed off investors because he would have been taken out in February

Stock in Feb 525 drops to 475.

Mar 28th 494, Apr 11 442, Apr 22 491

July 8th 490, July 17th 573
 
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Words found on shell casings: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bullets-used-to-kill-unitedhealthcare-ceo-had-words-written-on-them-law-enforcement-official-says/ar-AA1vjXkN?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Shell casings found at the scene where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead by a masked gunman in front of a busy New York City hotel had the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” written on them, a senior New York City law enforcement official briefed on the investigation confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.

It'll be interesting to see how this turns out, but it was definitely targeted.
 
The number of people who get "cheated" as a percentage is quite small, although they should work to minimize it.

Jimmy Dore showed a chart yesterday which showed UHC with the highest claim denial rate by far compared with the rest of the industry.

It was something like 30%, if I remember correctly.

He will probably have that video released in a day or two.
 
Jimmy Dore showed a chart yesterday which showed UHC with the highest claim denial rate by far compared with the rest of the industry.

It was something like 30%, if I remember correctly.

He will probably have that video released in a day or two.

My favorite random comment on this so far was that all it would take is for a claim to be denied for a dying child or wife of an operator for this to have happened.


No, actually my favorite was that the CEO was going to make it but then the insurance company required that he do six months of physical therapy before getting the bullets removed.
 
UPDATE: Below are photos of a person of interest wanted for questioning regarding the Midtown Manhattan homicide on Dec. 4. This does not appear to be a random act of violence; all indications are that it was a premediated, targeted attack.

The full investigative efforts of the NYPD are continuing, and we are asking for the public’s help—if you have any information about this case, call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477). There is a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to an arrest and conviction.


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https://x.com/NYPDnews/status/1864706407985221974
 
CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot. 120 million dollar DOJ anti trust case.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/04/uni...r-reports-of-executive-shot-in-manhattan.html

In May, a firefighters’ pension fund in Hollywood, Florida, sued United HealthGroup, Thompson, Witty and Executive Chairman Stephen Hemsley. The suit accused the executives of selling a combined $120 million in company shares before a U.S. Department of Justice antitrust investigation was disclosed publicly.

The DOJ’s probe was related to UnitedHealth Group’s 2021 acquisition of Change Healthcare, which processes medical claims.

The lawsuit claimed Thompson knew about the investigation as early as October 2023 and sold shares worth $15.1 million on Feb. 16, less than two weeks before news of the probe went public, according to the complaint.
 
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Wrong color jacket
Wrong color backpack
No loose cord on the hood
No chest pockets
Sleeves cut differently

But yeah, stellar detective work, NYPD
 
Apparently they've posted pics of the guy and people are saying it's not the same guy...

The guys look similar to each other but I can see their point.
 
Apparently they've posted pics of the guy and people are saying it's not the same guy...

The guys look similar to each other but I can see their point.

It's not "people are saying" - this is less complicated than a "spot the difference" activity designed for 8 year olds.

I'm sure it'll be all settled though - after they've surrounded a house and burned it down, whatever charred bones they take out of there are guaranteed to be the guy.
:rolleyes:
 

Backpack straps change colors and it almost looks like the shooter's hood is part of his coat, while the other might be wearing a hooded sweatshirt under his coat.

I must say, the big schnozzes look the same.
 
Backpack straps change colors and it almost looks like the shooter's hood is part of his coat, while the other might be wearing a hooded sweatshirt under his coat.

I must say, the big schnozzes look the same.

The coat and hood are definitely different. That is 100% certain. It's less clear to me that the face is different. But it looks different to me.
 
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