GOP Top Brass Discuss Strategies; What to Do About Paul and Returning to Core Values

[John P Slevin]

nonsense

I was speaking to party insiders this weekend and was told that discussions reaching as high as Mike Duncan, Chairman of the Republican National Committee, were taking place on what to do about Ron Paul. I was told that the movement has had a profound affect on the party and is reshaping the current platform. Concessions must be made to the Ron Paul Republicans if the party is to thrive. They said they know the party will lose in the general election to the Democrats without Ron Paul supporters and irreparable damage to the party could last for decades.

To be brandished as losers does not sit well with the top brass in the party, and an incredible amount of resources are being wasted. They said that a return to core Republican values could go a long way in returning credibility to the party. I didn't ask what they meant by this but I know what they were thinking. I think they are beginning to see the writing on the wall, and I hope this is the beginning of a breakthrough for our party.

More driveling nonsense. What powerful Republican movers and shakers would discuss this with you so that you could do the responsible thing and post their strategies on a public board...anonymously no less.

What friggin nonsense.

 

[CriticalThinker]

I hope this is true... it sure seems like Huckabee is on board

Give me a break. He is a LIAR - A PROFESSIONAL LIAR.

Please stop pandering to the enemy - go to his website - will ya?

 

[Ron2Win]

I don't trust the Republican party. They've become an unmitigated disaster.

I do trust Ron Paul.

The only option I will accept is a full endorsement of Ron Paul and his policies. If (and only if) the Republicans back Paul, I'll vote for them. Otherwise it's Democrats and Libertarians for me. I have no interest in voting for any of the snakes they are currently toying with for nominees.

I don't trust them either lately. Terrorism is now the excuse for everything.

Michael Chertoff on the ID card:
Only 3 types of people won't like the National ID card, they are, terrorists, illegal immigrants and convicted felons. OK, except that Homeland Security will not do anything about illegals, convicted felons have paid their dues and terrorists are not supposed to be here anyways. So they will stick it to the regular folk.

Another one:
After ONE F15 crashes in MO they want to replace half of the fleet with F22's. I mean, people are losing everything, houses, jobs etc etc and the Air Force wants to buy 183 planes at 150mil a pop plane from Lockheed?

And lastly:
Bush goes into the Middle east, sells the Arabs a 20B defense contract, the enemies of Israel, and when he asks for an increase in Oil production they just say NO. Pathetic.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I was speaking to party insiders this weekend and was told that discussions reaching as high as Mike Duncan, Chairman of the Republican National Committee, were taking place on what to do about Ron Paul. I was told that the movement has had a profound affect on the party and is reshaping the current platform. Concessions must be made to the Ron Paul Republicans if the party is to thrive. They said they know the party will lose in the general election to the Democrats without Ron Paul supporters and irreparable damage to the party could last for decades.

To be brandished as losers does not sit well with the top brass in the party, and an incredible amount of resources are being wasted. They said that a return to core Republican values could go a long way in returning credibility to the party. I didn't ask what they meant by this but I know what they were thinking. I think they are beginning to see the writing on the wall, and I hope this is the beginning of a breakthrough for our party.

The problem with today's GOP leadership is that they traded away our party's principles for power and in the end the party will end up with neither. The poster boy for betraying conservative principles is President George Bush II. Under the Bush presidency, the national debt more than doubled to $9 Trillion in the last seven (7) years, federal entitlements expanded (ie. Medicare Prescription), unfunded state mandates increased (ie. No Child Left Behind Act), the size of federal government increased, and federal spending increased, etc. I never thought I would live to see a Republican President who has performed even worse than Jimmy Carter.

Unfortunately, our so-called Republicans in Congress (excepting Ron Paul and a very few others), led by that RINO in Chief, Tom Delay, aided and abetted President Bush in betraying every single conservative principle the GOP once stood for and promoted. There is no question that the Republicrats in Congress blew it, just f-ing blew it, during the ten years they had control of Congress. If there is nothing that pisses me off the most is the fact that these members of Congress come back to their districts on weekends and holidays and brag about how conservative they are only to return to DC and spend money like a bunch of drunken sailors on shore leave in a New Orleans whorehouse (ie. $230 Million bridge to nowhere).

The only way the GOP will return to its core values is if the current leadership resigns en masse and turns the reins over to a new generation of leaders who will restore the GOP to the conservative principles of Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan. As Oliver Cromwell once told an incompetent Parliament:

"You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

 

[enjerth]

They aren't going to win over very many Ron Paul supporters by using his talking points.

They've been hard at work to alienate his supporters from the Republican party. Ron Paul is not to blame, but the GOP itself. I've been marginalized, ignored and told I don't matter for 4 months and it only gets worse. I'm not a friend of the GOP any more, and it's their fault for treating me like I'm some kind of filthy liberal or cancerous growth.

After this election, if it isn't Ron Paul, I'm leaving the GOP. I'd rather see them fractured and broken, with a Democrat in the White House, than let them lead me down this ugly path.

A live toad will let you boil it if you turn up the heat slowly enough. I'm not that stupid.

 

[enjerth]

I don't think we're just 10%. How many people say they won't vote for them even if they like him because he's unelectable?

The people who won't vote for Ron Paul because they think he's unelectable will vote for whoever the nominee is, regardless of his record, character or platform. Even if the Republican nominee was Saddam's ghost, they'd vote for him. Anything to keep the party going.

We're the party crashers.

 

[ronpaul4pres]

To add some legitimacy to the original post, here's an article on Buchanan's website:

‘Old Right’ Intellectual Challenges NeoConservatives

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

They've been hard at work to alienate his supporters from the Republican party. Ron Paul is not to blame, but the GOP itself. I've been marginalized, ignored and told I don't matter for 4 months and it only gets worse. I'm not a friend of the GOP any more, and it's their fault for treating me like I'm some kind of filthy liberal or cancerous growth.

After this election, if it isn't Ron Paul, I'm leaving the GOP. I'd rather see them fractured and broken, with a Democrat in the White House, than let them lead me down this ugly path.

Right on. And don't worry: after this, we will found our own party. There is no going back for most of us. Once you have seen the light, you cannot go back to the old lies.

 

[MN Patriot]

Fooled by the billionaire rumor, now this

If Ron Paul supporters are so gullible they believe a billionaire will save the campaign (why did he wait so long? he should have been doing this months ago), then they will believe that the GOP wants to return to core values.

I wouldn't doubt the neo-cons are worried about Ron Paul running as a third party candidate, taking away votes from Republicans. But returning to core values? They'll just keep doing what Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and the other candidates do, talk about less government, freedom, etc. But then do the opposite. They'll make us think they have regained their senses, and try to fool us again.

Ron needs to run as a third party candidate, such as the Libertarian Party. the message is more important than letting the Republican Party ruin the country.

 

[cayton]

By voting in favor of anyone (Rep or Dem) but RP I am endorsing the status quo. I may not be able to stop it, but I will not help it. I will write RP in (if I have to).

This is exactly how I feel. I can not do everything but I can do something. I am not responsible for it if I cast my vote in direct opposition to it.

These guys are going to run us into the ground and/or blow up the world, but at least the blood is not now nor will ever be on my hands.

 

[michaelwise]

More driveling nonsense. What powerful Republican movers and shakers would discuss this with you so that you could do the responsible thing and post their strategies on a public board...anonymously no less.

What friggin nonsense.

Because I'm a life long party member for 30 years now, and they know I don't put up with bullshit.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Well we need liberty minded folks in the Democratic party too

LOLz... no doubt, wouldnt it be refreshing if the drug war, interventionist foreign policies, the crushing of civil liberties, corporate welfare, the income tax and etc.. were done away with and all the dems and republicans had to argue about was monetary policy, environmental regulations, and abortion?

sweet bliss.

 

[John P Slevin]

excuuuuse me

Because I'm a life long party member for 30 years now, and they know I don't put up with bullshit.

Well excuuuuuse me...

What party? Couldn't be the Republican Party, cause that one is filled with so much bullshit, and since you don't put up with same...

 

[michaelwise]

Well excuuuuuse me...

What party? Couldn't be the Republican Party, cause that one is filled with so much bullshit, and since you don't put up with same...

They don't like what's going on either, many of them. Just the thought of Hillary and Pelosi, 1st and 3rd in line ruining our country is quite repulsive to them. Well, they get what they deserve.

 

[PaultheSaint]

Remember folks, even should Ron Paul lose this race but return to Congress, he could be the most powerful Congressman on the Hill if we keep our support behind him. Never forget this. Never give up. This is just the beginning.

Not to mention that every day we keep seeing folks running in their respected States that have the same platform as RP. There most certainly is a movement going on in the Republician party. Lets make sure we support all these guys that sahre RP's values.

 

[michaelwise]

Originally Posted by WilliamC

Remember folks, even should Ron Paul lose this race but return to Congress, he could be the most powerful Congressman on the Hill if we keep our support behind him. Never forget this. Never give up. This is just the beginning.

Not to mention that every day we keep seeing folks running in their respected States that have the same platform as RP. There most certainly is a movement going on in the Republician party. Lets make sure we support all these guys that sahre RP's values.

That gives me an idea. Maybe we should spam congress to voice our outrage at the unfair treatment of the good doctor in the media. Mass petition to revoke Fix News license.

 

[michaelwise]

That gives me an idea. Maybe we should spam congress to voice our outrage at the unfair treatment of the good doctor in the media. Mass petition to revoke Fix News license.

I would also like to see antitrust lawsuit brought against all the major media companies, and a breakup of the industry.

 

[citijain]

Huckabee is just going where the wind is blowing. Like all of them, tossing in a reference to The Constitution, or civil liberties...don't be fooled, it's just smoke to grab a few more votes.

 

[michaelwise]

Huckabee is just going where the wind is blowing. Like all of them, tossing in a reference to The Constitution, or civil liberties...don't be fooled, it's just smoke to grab a few more votes.

It's funny how they are all acting like copycats stealing bit's and pieces of Ron's platform. I was listening to Mark Lavin by accident today, and he was touting the virtues of liberty and the Constitution like there was no tomorrow. Ron Paul's message is really starting to sink in.

 

[freelance]

If you still have any doubts about that high-level meeting, just wander on over to the Winning Nevada sub-forum. That ought to open your eyes big time.

I think that part of the new play book is open primaries/caucuses, and by open, I mean that anyone from anywhere is welcome to come (be bussed in by the opposition) to vote for their favorite candidate (anyone but RP, that is). All one has to do is sign some affidavit saying that hey live in the state or hope to maybe some day (retirement anyone?) move to the state.

Don't believe me? It happened in NH, and it's happening right now in NV. Just go on over the that sub-forum to see what they have planned for us. There's lots more. Go see for yourselves.

And then decide whether these are people worthy of our trust.