GOP Top Brass Discuss Strategies; What to Do About Paul and Returning to Core Values

[NocturnalC]

Having a candidate to vote for is one thing, making up stuff that is untrue in every way is another thing

Sounds exactly like what the MSM is all about. Especially with Paul.

 

[susano]

In light of the current mainstream media blackout of Ron Paul, I'm of a mind that we should just band together, and pledge to put the final nail in the coffin of the GOP. Vow to vote for none of the above.

What we Ron Paul Republicans need is a symbol of our solidarity. How about a special ring. Something we could use to identify our brothers when we pass each other in the streets. Perhaps a ring with the r3volution logo on it?

Yeah!

And, Voluntary Man, I, too, like the American Party. That said, I would like to see candidates run on name only. That's one for a ballot initiative.

 

[michaelwise]

None of the above? I'll be voting for Ron Paul no matter what. I hope everyone else does too. That is the only way to send the message.

I meant that to mean, just write in the name, Ron Paul, as I will be doing.

 

[susano]

bumping a great thread

 

[CountryB4Party]

No thank you

Hey, if we know they are scared, why not use this?!?!

We need a website pledging to switch to the libertarian party with hundreds of thousands of pledges if he doesn't get the GOP nomination. Sort of a... Nomination or else kind of thing...

With all due respect, this conservative has no, none, nada, zip, zilch interest in joining the Libertarian party.

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[stewie3128]

With all due respect, this conservative has no, none, nada, zip, zilch interest in joining the Libertarian party.

How come?

 

[CountryB4Party]

How come?

Stewie, there are a couple of reasons:

1. I no longer buy into the political party game.

2. I do not completely agree with the platform, specifically open borders.

3. My experience with libertarians through RP's campaign has not been positive, and I am being exceptionally generous with my description.

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[CountryB4Party]

Stewie, there are a couple of reasons:

1. I no longer buy into the political party game.

2. I do not completely agree with the platform, specifically open borders.

3. My experience with libertarians through RP's campaign has not been positive, and I am being exceptionally generous with my description.

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LOL...my reasons ended up being several rather than a "couple".

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[exer51]

Stewie, there are a couple of reasons:

1. I no longer buy into the political party game.

2. I do not completely agree with the platform, specifically open borders.

3. My experience with libertarians through RP's campaign has not been positive, and I am being exceptionally generous with my description.

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You just met the wrong ones! I'd call myself a Libertarian, but I'm REASONABLE. Some of them take it so far as to go out of their way to come up with complex schemes to replace government functions that end up being more burdensome than just keeping it the way it is. I draw my line with things that are clearly better left to the free market.

The borders thing wouldn't be as much of an issue if we had a reasonable economy either... My only gripe with immigration is that it should be LEGAL and they should learn ENGLISH.

 

[Highstreet]

The only concession I want from the GOP is to throw some support behind our man. That is the only way I will judge them as genuine in any sort of return to core values. What they don't realize is that their new wave of potential voters (us) is not going to be placated by smarmy doublespeak. We aren't idiots, and we aren't going to be led around. They are going to have to be genuine or we will see it for the hollow promise that it is. I don't know if being honest is something they are going to be able to bring themselves to do. :o

Would be nice to know we're stirring the pot up there though

Exactly.

And this is how many feel. Either we are successful or the fight begins at the local level again. One way or another we are taking back our country.

 

[CountryB4Party]

You just met the wrong ones! I'd call myself a Libertarian, but I'm REASONABLE. Some of them take it so far as to go out of their way to come up with complex schemes to replace government functions that end up being more burdensome than just keeping it the way it is. I draw my line with things that are clearly better left to the free market.

The borders thing wouldn't be as much of an issue if we had a reasonable economy either... My only gripe with immigration is that it should be LEGAL and they should learn ENGLISH.

Actually, I was, unfortunately, referring to the attitude and demeanor of many Libertarians - an attitude with which I prefer not to associate.

You are correct regarding immigration; however, I also believe in immigrants paying into our system for an appropriate length of time before receiving benefits, including school. In the UK, the time frame is five years.

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[exer51]

Actually, I was, unfortunately, referring to the attitude and demeanor of many Libertarians - an attitude with which I prefer not to associate.

You are correct regarding immigration; however, I also believe in immigrants paying into our system for an appropriate length of time before receiving benefits, including school. In the UK, the time frame is five years.

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Well everyone is their own person, so I still say you just caught a bad patch of them.

I can definitely get behind not letting them get benefits for awhile. School... I dunno. Can't not let their kids go to school IMO. If they're living in a house(owned or rented) their property tax is directly paying for a chunk of that schooling anyway. Welfare and such I definitely agree though, not that we should have any welfare anyway.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Stewie, there are a couple of reasons:

1. I no longer buy into the political party game.

2. I do not completely agree with the platform, specifically open borders.

3. My experience with libertarians through RP's campaign has not been positive, and I am being exceptionally generous with my description.

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I hear ya.

Another problem is that the Libertarian Party is infected with the culture of loserdom. By that, I mean that they have such a long history of losing elections that they have come to expect to lose, and even when they have a chance to win they sabotage themselves and prevent it from ever happening.

Look at the way the "Libertarians" have torn each other apart over Ron Paul.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Wow a lot of speculation here on this thread. I also love the whole "If RP isn't the nominee I won't vote!" Let me ask this question, what exactly do you think not voting is going to do? Not voting is the same as watching some guy next door murder his wife and let him get away with it.

No, it's not even close. On some level, I may have a moral obligation to help the person being murdered. I have no moral obligation whatsoever to feign suport for a political candidate.

Yup. Expect to hear ALL the "top tier" espousing tax cuts and spending restraint. Too bad they've been SAYING that for years. Talk is cheap ya'll.

Ron Paul is the only money bet

Agree. Huck's been on it for the last several weeks. Rudy's pretending to be a tax cutter lately. The GOP can say whatever they like. Until they allow RP to fairly participate in the conversation, they're just flapping their lips.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Yes this is true and sparks a question: When did Kusinich announce his run for president and do you think Paul and Kucinich discussed their intentions before actually announcing, pure coincedence or ploy for a movement on both sides?

GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!! KUCHINICH IS NOT FOR LIBERTY!!! HE WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS AND MONEY! HE IS A SOCIALIST!!!

 

[Dary]

Should Ron not get the nomination, then for the first time in my life, I will vote FOR the GREATER of the two evils.

 

[speciallyblend]

if ron paul doesnt get the nomination,i will not vote for either evil,ill write RON PAUL IN

 

[AlexMerced]

I'll write Ron Paul in as well

 

[xd9fan]

I personally have said that at this point I can't tell the differnce between the Republicans or the Democrats, other than Ron of coarse. But if the GOP are not going to back Ron, then I guess one way to say F-You to the GOP is to not vote at all and let the Democrats win.

And, that is what they are worried about.....

BINGO

The GOP just wants to stay in power......principle is not on their minds.......(remember Trett Lotts comments about talkradio and americians slaming them on their vote on amnesty?........this is NOT your Fathers GOP)

 

[NoMoreApathy]

You just met the wrong ones! I'd call myself a Libertarian, but I'm REASONABLE. Some of them take it so far as to go out of their way to come up with complex schemes to replace government functions that end up being more burdensome than just keeping it the way it is. I draw my line with things that are clearly better left to the free market.

The borders thing wouldn't be as much of an issue if we had a reasonable economy either... My only gripe with immigration is that it should be LEGAL and they should learn ENGLISH.

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