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So you know that if you spoil your children, they tend to grow up with a sense of self-importance, lacking in humility and empathy, and in general, spoiled.
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lol. She's single, beautiful, and more atheist than I am. She's also sitting five feet from me. We're going to read more from Animal Farm in a minute.
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Damn. My first question for a girl I might date is: "Do you love God and accept Jesus as your Savior?". Second question is "do you want lots and lots of babies?" lol
Still, if she's beautiful, intelligent and funny (as I'm sure your daughter is) I'd be willing to try and convert her while dating
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Damn. My first question for a girl I might date is: "Do you love God and accept Jesus as your Savior?". Second question is "do you want lots and lots of babies?" lol
Still, if she's beautiful, intelligent and funny (as I'm sure your daughter is) I'd be willing to try and convert her while dating
Eduardo gots the moves.
Moving straight into the babies question ALWAYS gets them.
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What can I say? I'm very honest and forward.
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testosterone makes the world go 'round...it's the latin blood.....
I'm going to go ahead and assume I don't have your blessing to date your daughter
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I'm going to go ahead and assume I don't have your blessing to date your daughter
Eduardo, you don't need my blessing, you need hers...and she is MUCH more discerning than I (I truly am blessed).
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Well put me in touch with her
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Thank you for the poem but I don't quite get it. Who is the rat and who is the sadistic deceiver? I think you are trying to mock God but all you reveal is your malice against Him. You make Him a fool and a liar by this poem and completely misunderstand His nature.
But you also revealed where your misunderstanding is, and for this I thank God and praise Him for all His wonderful works.
What God has revealed finds its ultimate meaning in the Person of Jesus Christ. In Christ, we find meaning in suffering. In Christ we find hope in salvation. In Christ we find life in death and find peace and meaning in chaos and confusion. We experience Truth when we meet Him, Who is Truth, the Incarnate Logos/Tao/Wisdom/Word of God Who fulfilled the prophecies and has been the hope of all nations, whether they knew Him or not. We humans find our fulfillment and real human living by living a life in Christ. When we follow Him, we find true life, and this is the great proclamation of the saints and as one voice, of the Church. Done so through experience in living a relationship with Christ and submitting to His mercy, just as the prodigal son did after he squandered the gifts he was given. Unless we come to God in this way, our prideful minds keep us heading ourselves farther from home, farther from the warm bed and food provided by our Father, Who is the Source of life, and closer to the road to separation and isolation and spiritual poverty, until we die eating the food from the mouths of pigs and in misery. Or hopefully we come to our senses and confess our dependence on Him and repent and ask for mercy and forgiveness.
Unless one humbles their heart, the door of their heart remains closed and they will not see the Kingdom of Heaven.
As for this idea that God hates us and like some sadistic tyrant unjustly condemns us to eternal punishment and pain, you do just as some modern Christians do by making God the source of evil and that He is full of unjust wrath to condemn those whom He made.
God's love is for everyone, and everyone will be revealed the Truth in the Last Day.
What will NOT be same is how we will receive His love, how we will stand before the Truth of His Love.
Imagine two people in a room, darkened in mystery. There is a window in the room with shutters, with these small slivers of light shining through here and there. One person spends their life averting themselves from the light and relishes in living in darkness, and another spends their life trying to peer into the light and to feel the light and experience the light. Guess what will happen if the shutters are suddenly opened. For this is what will happen on the Last Day! The shutters will be cast away quickly, and the light will suddenly shine in and flood the entire room. And to those who lived their lives waiting in anticipation to see this light and who gazed between the shutters to see and feel the warm of this light, when the light is revealed in full, they will experience warmth, comfort and the vision to see the beauty of the world behind the glass window. To those however who kept their face away from the light and who lived in the darkness and enjoyed the shutters closed, they will be blinded by the vision and power and majesty of that same light, and they will close their eyes and turn from the vision, unable to see experience the beauty and truth that is right in front of their face. Instead of feeling warmth and comfort from the light, they will feel it upon their skins as scorching and intolerable heat. The same love to them will an unquenchable fire.
As I love my children unconditionally and as I believe you love your children unconditionally, even more so does God love us unconditionally. And it is not His love that will be lacking when we 'see Hm face to face', but our own lack of which will be the emptiness and loneliness of hell, and it will not be because of God that will accuse us, but our own self accusations before the majesty of God before us that will be unto us as an undying worm.
Before Christ came, everything was in preparation for His arrival.
And now that He came, He has revealed to us the Father.
And when we come to Him with a contrite heart, He comes to us even as we still are walking towards Him and embraces us and showers us with love and blessings.
And when we continue to walk our own path, in unappreciative vainglory and self pleasure, we do so walking away FROM Him, and unto perdition. It is us who have changed our hearts towards the Father, and not the Father, Who wishes for us to stay and share in the home He has provided and the inheritance he has prepared for us.
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Still yet, of all of the gnostic texts, I believe that Mary Magdalene's is most compelling. I do understand some of the misgivings about the other gnostic gospels due to some incompatibilities with the canonized New Testament; however, Mary's seems to fit nicely (what's left of it). It is unfortunate that part of the manuscript was destroyed....
Due to the possible inaccuracies of the Bible (probably due to translation errors), I do understand why some people prefer not to be religious.... We no longer have prophets today (that I am aware of); however, we do have a spark of the divine within us all. I believe the "Kingdom" is where we drop our differences and love one another.
Due to the possible inaccuracies of the Bible (probably due to translation errors), I do understand why some people prefer not to be religious.... We no longer have prophets today (that I am aware of); however, we do have a spark of the divine within us all. I believe the "Kingdom" is where we drop our differences and love one another.
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Being that no where in the Bible it says God unconditionally loves us in the way you say. It is said that God is in His substance love. We are not. So, I can see plenty of room for separation between the two barring an act of grace.
I still maintain that a God who always forgives and always loves can punish us just as a good parent can punish a childer he/she loves. Simple common sense.
Ironic considering that I probably have been schooled in it more than you, but I digress.
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ALWAYS forgives =/= CAN punish. What parent punishes their child with eternal torment? And couching your opinions with "simple common sense" does not lend credibility.
I agree that always forgiving does not equal can punish. Forgiving someone means that you write off the wrongs that they have caused.
Schooled in theology or logic?
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