Glenn Beck is going down everyone help out!!! TAKE ACTION!!!

[walt]

bump

 

[MsDoodahs]

What was said about it? Update us?

 

[Revolution9]

our clout? lol

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Again with the smarm.. Report me again for calling you out on it. and then get the eff out on the streets and stop wasting your time trying to stop others doing what they will do regardless of your spew.

ye akin to a pain in the ass pal.

Randy

 

[Revolution9]

What if Glenn gets fired, and they hire someone even more vile and ignorant?

The thought processes of some here are quite baffling. My logic leads me to the exact opposite conclusion EVERY time I run the scenario through the reality simulacra circuitry.

Randy

 

[torchbearer]

Jesse Benton is on AJ talking about this now.

Please recap what was said.

 

[Electric Church]

Yeh, I'm so distracted by it I can't function anymore. Don't click on the OP link, it will destroy the entire campaign.
Or you could take the minutes you waste posting on this forum, which is also a distraction, and voice your opinion if you so choose.

Why act like you are someone's guardian? You have no authority over another person's decisions. If people are compelled to write his sponsors, who are you to tell them not to? Who made you God?

Right on

 

[Revolution9]

Look folks, if you could convince me that fighting these smear attacks will gain us votes in the next 50 days, I would be standing on the front line, hammering away emails with the best of you.

But I want Dr. Paul elected before I want Glenn Beck fired. And I don't see how getting Beck fired, even in 2 weeks, is going to positively and meaningfully impact us at the ballot box.

This recent posting by Bradley in the News forum is exactly what I am talking about. The campaign cannot win if it stays small. And keeping us militant and distracted is a good way to prevent viral growth.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37963

Mindsets like this will lose the gambit. You have a Mack 18 wheeeler loaded with smear coming down the highwway striaght at the campaign. You want to ignore it. The others want to put the brakes on it before it starts and let them know there will be consequences. So.. we can just stand in the road and get creamed or let the others who see the 18 wheeler coming try to set its momentum dead flat into a cement wall or down the gulley. Yer caterwauling and moaning about it only underscores your level of misunderstanding of the nature of the arrogant beast we are dealing with. It does not think like a human yet you ascribe and make humanistic judgements about its behavior. It is more akin to a serial killing psychopath with no remorse.

As well I see all these time/value judgements as though this issue takes up all our time.. Well guess what.. I have written about a dozen posts on this, read about twenty letters and articles on it nd all these posts.. Total time..not more than forty five minutes.. So all you trying to pull the timewasters gambit can tuck that back in your diapers with the rest of your crap that you whip out when your argyment is not cogent and you seek to place guilt instead of acknowledging your logical loss in the debate.

Randy

Regards
Randy

 

[Electric Church]

Yes, let's all just sit quietly while the smear aritists develop the theme that we're domestic terrorists, and that Ron Paul is a racist, and an anti-Semite. Let's all just be nice and polite so we don't offend anyone. Let's just IGNORE it all, maybe it will "go away".

yes... you don't want to scare off potential Ron Paul supporters for defending yourself from the accusations of being in bed with islamo-fascist and a terrorists do ya?

 

[luvu4ia]

Un-American and Deplorable

To try to convince the American people that a "money bomb" is some sort of message to reek havoc in our streets is about as insane as that guy who wants to shoot people for wearing animal fur. People, South Park was right, "our imaginations ARE out of control."

I understand the frustration, but not the approach. Clearly the neo-Cons and other such naysayers are just jealous they didn't think of Freedom first.

Oh wait, they didn't! lol.

And I love Obama, but he is too green. They have already shaken him. Paul is doing what Obama can only dream of today. I have made it my mission to educate as many people that I can. Where I live, Jackson, MS, there is a high concentration of African-Americans. Mississippi counts!

I would love to see national campaigns in inner cities of OPEN PRIMARY STATES. The people need to know that they can register to vote and are OPEN to pick their PRIMARY candidate.

Any thoughts!

 

[luvu4ia]

Calling All Email Campaigns

Hello,

If you are emailing all your former contacts in the interest of saving America from itself and you get a response like: "Please remove me from your contact list; this is my personal email and I don't respond to chain letters."

Please do as the individual asks and respond with something to the effect of what I have pasted below. Please, please, please feel free to use the letter AS IT IS TYPED or with small alterations to fit the individual you are contacting.

Also, Please inform them of this blatant and cruel smear campaign against America. Remind them that America was DEFINED by ITS FREEDOM.

Do you have the audacity of hope?

Celeste
Jackson, MS
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the response I sent:
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I will remove you from my contact list. But, I want to give you a bit of advice. This is not a chain letter, I only ask that the ideas of freedom expressed herein be treated as one and discussed among intelligent people. I sent that letter because I believe you - whom I do not know - have a right to answers and opinions.

Why do people pass along those idiotic chain letters? I abhor them myself. Clearly people pass them on out of fear. But, what are we afraid of? Surely, if is not fear itself, but Freedom. We, for some reason, are afraid to make our own choices. For some reason, we think the Cooperation of America knows what is best for its lowly middle-class workers. The American citizen has been fooled into thinking that IT has rights. Believe me, the ruling/reigning caste/class doesn't care for you anymore than you care about what I had for breakfast today.

Did you go to a big state school for college? Did you feel like 'just a number'. Well, you are already just a number to this American Cooperation. We are the cattle. The same tag you put in your dog - an animal - will be put into you - tagged like an animal. And like cows we are being slaughtered. And it's okay if you want to stand by and watch. It is your freewill to do so. I would never attempt to take that away from you.

If you have a family, If you don't want to see that family locked in already existing FEMA camps (set up after hurricane katrina), and you want your children to taste the sweet freedoms that are America, then I suggest you engage in meaningful conversation before you ban people from your conversation. If God wanted us not to listen, he wouldn't have given us ears. If God wanted us not to think, we would never have been constructed with such magnificent brains they we ourselves do not fully understand.

I understand if you want to continue to fear your God-given freedoms upon this beautiful earth and will trouble you no more. My words are better spent on those who chose to fight for your right to surrender all freedoms to the government.

I had hoped all contact could be positive. And it was your right to rain on that parade.

Good luck with the Occupation of America,
Hope my side wins.

People are praying for you.

Celeste
Jackson, MS
A Real Person with Real Concerns
Join Me: www.myspace.com/luvu4ia

You have been deleted from my contact list.

 

[paulitics]

This is more significant than simply a smear attack. The govt is creating laws, and setting up commities to investigate what they consider to be "potential home grown terrorirsts". Constitutionalists, gun right activists, and home schoolers are just a few of those that Fema considers to fit this criteria.

If the media is making a concerted effort to imply RP supporters, libertarians, federal reserve protesters, 911 official conspiracy doubters, or anti war activists, and other political dissenters are such than we are heading down a road to hell.

 

[courtney]

Folks, I think we're missing the entire point here. And all I ask is that you guys hear me out before you attempt to lynch me for being a heretic.

This is not a Glenn Beck issue. This is a Ron Paul (the man himself) issue. We cannot fix "it," only Ron Paul can. Allow me to explain.

Glenn Beck was correct: the Ron Paul movement comprises a number of high profile white supremacists as well as high-profile white supremacist groups, all of which are active in one way or another on Paul's behalf.

Of course, freedom, for which it is that Paul ostensibly stands for, allows us all to think and believe the way in which we all individually desire -- regardless of belief. However, ask yourselves, would you accept a donation to your campaign from Osama bin Laden? Would you accept a donation from Adolf Hitler? Would Ron Paul? And as for that last question, we simply don't know because Paul stubbornly refuses to address this issue -- an issue that is threatening to sink the entire movement.

The reason these questions are relevant is because the various Ku Klux Klan organisations are domestic terror organisations, plain and simple. This country was once heavily influenced by groups such as these, and the results were not pretty.

The sole purpose of these groups is to usher in a new society based on white supremacy, along with these particular groups' "values." These "values" that these groups hold dear are NOT freedom and liberty based At All. In fact, if you're queer, or if you're racially "inferior," or else interracially married, or else simply disagree with their brand of Christianity, etc., YOU will be a second, or else third class citizen -- if you're tolerated at all.

This is antithetical to what I have assumed Dr. Paul to stand for, which is why I donated $2300.00 to his campaign. However, as Glenn Beck correctly points out, these "fringe" groups ARE NOT representative of Freedom and Liberty -- they certainly don't subscribe to a Libertarian Live and Let Live philosophy.

And lastly, yes, the very letters "KKK" represents domestic terror. There was a time in this country's history where the KKK was allowed to run free. The result was wide-spread institutional intimidation of those who didn't fit their mold, and lynchings, i.e., rapes, murders, whippings, and kidnappings, etc: Domestic Terrorism.

So, Glenn Beck is right on. Unfortunately, not a single one of you here can repair the damage that is being done due to Dr. Paul's steadfast refusal to tackle this issue head-on. It is ultimately His issue, and he'll have to address it Himself -- no amount of bitching and complaining to Glenn beck's sponsors is going to fix what amounts to a self-inflicted wound by the campaign.

So, as all of you are free to blast off emails to everyone from God on down, it might be more productive to focus on Ground Zero: the campaign itself.

These "Nazi" stories aren't going away because there's enough there for a rational person to question. Only Ron Paul can make it go away....

 

[Mr. White]

Folks, I think we're missing the entire point here. And all I ask is that you guys hear me out before you attempt to lynch me for being a heretic.

This is not a Glenn Beck issue. This is a Ron Paul (the man himself) issue. We cannot fix "it," only Ron Paul can. Allow me to explain.

Glenn Beck was correct: the Ron Paul movement comprises a number of high profile white supremacists as well as high-profile white supremacist groups, all of which are active in one way or another on Paul's behalf.

Of course, freedom, for which it is that Paul ostensibly stands for, allows us all to think and believe the way in which we all individually desire -- regardless of belief. However, ask yourselves, would you accept a donation to your campaign from Osama bin Laden? Would you accept a donation from Adolf Hitler? Would Ron Paul? And as for that last question, we simply don't know because Paul stubbornly refuses address this issue -- an issue that is threatening to sink the entire movement.

The reason these questions are relevant is because the various Ku Klux Klan organisations are domestic terror organisations, plain and simple. This country was once heavily influenced by groups such as these, and the results were not pretty.

The sole purpose of these groups is to usher in a new society based on white supremacy, along with these particular groups' "values." These "values" that these groups hold dear are NOT freedom and liberty based At All. In fact, if you're queer, or if you're racially "inferior," or else interracially married, or else simply disagree with their brand of Christianity, etc., YOU will be a second, or else third class citizen -- if you're tolerated at all.

This is antithetical to what I have assumed Dr. Paul to stand for, which is why I donated $2300.00 to his campaign. However, as Glenn Beck correctly points out, these "fringe" groups ARE NOT representative of Freedom and Liberty -- they certainly don't subscribe to a Libertarian Live and Let Live philosophy.

And lastly, yes, the very letters "KKK" represents domestic terror. There was a time in this country's history where the KKK was allowed to run free. The result was wide-spread institutional intimidation of those who didn't fit their mold, and lynchings, i.e., rapes, murders, whippings, and kidnappings, etc: Domestic Terrorism.

So, Glenn Beck is right on. Unfortunately, not a single one of you here can repair the damage that is being done due to Dr. Paul's steadfast refusal to tackle this issue head-on. It is ultimately His issue, and he'll have to address it Himself -- no amount of bitching and complaining to Glenn beck's sponsors is going to fix what amounts to a self-inflicted wound by the campaign.

So, as all of you are free to blast off emails to everyone from God on down, it might be more productive to focus on Ground Zero: the campaign itself.

These "Nazi" stories aren't going away because there's enough there for a rational person to question. Only Ron Paul can make it go away....

Bingo.

 

[paulitics]

Folks, I think we're missing the entire point here. And all I ask is that you guys hear me out before you attempt to lynch me for being a heretic.

This is not a Glenn Beck issue. This is a Ron Paul (the man himself) issue. We cannot fix "it," only Ron Paul can. Allow me to explain.

Glenn Beck was correct: the Ron Paul movement comprises a number of high profile white supremacists as well as high-profile white supremacist groups, all of which are active in one way or another on Paul's behalf.

Of course, freedom, for which it is that Paul ostensibly stands for, allows us all to think and believe the way in which we all individually desire -- regardless of belief. However, ask yourselves, would you accept a donation to your campaign from Osama bin Laden? Would you accept a donation from Adolf Hitler? Would Ron Paul? And as for that last question, we simply don't know because Paul stubbornly refuses address this issue -- an issue that is threatening to sink the entire movement.

The reason these questions are relevant is because the various Ku Klux Klan organisations are domestic terror organisations, plain and simple. This country was once heavily influenced by groups such as these, and the results were not pretty.

The sole purpose of these groups is to usher in a new society based on white supremacy, along with these particular groups' "values." These "values" that these groups hold dear are NOT freedom and liberty based At All. In fact, if you're queer, or if you're racially "inferior," or else interracially married, or else simply disagree with their brand of Christianity, etc., YOU will be a second, or else third class citizen -- if you're tolerated at all.

This is antithetical to what I have assumed Dr. Paul to stand for, which is why I donated $2300.00 to his campaign. However, as Glenn Beck correctly points out, these "fringe" groups ARE NOT representative of Freedom and Liberty -- they certainly don't subscribe to a Libertarian Live and Let Live philosophy.

And lastly, yes, the very letters "KKK" represents domestic terror. There was a time in this country's history where the KKK was allowed to run free. The result was wide-spread institutional intimidation of those who didn't fit their mold, and lynchings, i.e., rapes, murders, whippings, and kidnappings, etc: Domestic Terrorism.

So, Glenn Beck is right on. Unfortunately, not a single one of you here can repair the damage that is being done due to Dr. Paul's steadfast refusal to tackle this issue head-on. It is ultimately His issue, and he'll have to address it Himself -- no amount of bitching and complaining to Glenn beck's sponsors is going to fix what amounts to a self-inflicted wound by the campaign.

So, as all of you are free to blast off emails to everyone from God on down, it might be more productive to focus on Ground Zero: the campaign itself.

These "Nazi" stories aren't going away because there's enough there for a rational person to question. Only Ron Paul can make it go away....

Glenn Beck was not talking about the KKK. He was implying all Ron Paul supporters are potential terrorists because we chose "Guy Falkes" day, who he calls a "Timothy McVeigh of England", to raise money. He implies that libertarians are aiding and abetting Islamo fascists and may be taking "revolution" and "money bomb's" too literally and thus are a threat to national security. This is disconcerting considering all of the "homegrown terorism" laws being passed right now.

 

[ConstitutionGal]

It won't matter what Dr. Paul says or does in regards to this matter. The media, the ADL and AIPAC are going to keep digging until they can find ANYTHING they can twist or construe to damage the Paul campaign. LaRaza (The Race) is a much larger organization than any KKK remnants )they are much more radical AND they advocate actually taking over certain parts of OUR country) and they are supporting both Hillary and Obama (Hillary actually spoke to their organization a month or so ago) and, yet, you don't see ANY reporting about that in the MSM unless it's a fluff piece congratulating those candidates for their 'diversity'.

now then, IMHO, Dr. Paul or the campaign does need to address this issue head on but, again IMHO, they need to turn the tables on those who are attempting to smear him due to people with certain beliefs supporting him. It CAN be done IF he can get the message actually in the media.

 

[Ozwest]

courtney, When asked, Ron Paul will address the issues we have been discussing. To reply to a second rate shill like Glenn Beck is is beneath Dr. Pauls dignity and only rewards gutter journalism... Unfortunately, too many of Mr. Becks brain dead listeners will accept him at his word, and it is our responsibility to ensure he is not rewarded for his smears of the good Doctor, but exposed and punished for being the charleton he is.

 

[courtney]

paulitics,

I respectfully disagree (mostly anyway). Glenn Beck Did Not say, or imply, that "All" of Ron Paul's supporters are terrorists. In fact, go back and review the episode in question , he is emphasizing the "fringe" element that has taken root within the organisation. I think we all realise that there are "fringe" elements taking hold in the movement as well, and yes, many of them resemble McVeigh in thought, for better or for worse.

I will agree that Beck's guests slammed the movement pretty hard, including some "libertarian sites like Lewrockwell," but they offered no real evidence to back up their claims. Nor did they give examples of any other "libertarian" site. However, with that said, perhaps the Lewrockwell blog question is best answered by Lew Rockwell himself -- and on Beck's program.

So, yes, I agree, Glenn Beck did invite two shills to his program. That is true, and deserves some consideration. However, if you listen to what Glenn Beck says personally, he does not slam "all" of Ron Paul's supporters, nor does he, or any other guest, call Ron Paul a "terrorist," which claim has decidedly gone viral despite a complete lack of evidence. Some say it was implied, but again, if you listen to Beck closely, I think you'll find that it was not his intent to label all of us "terrorists" at all.

But then again, whatever the case may be, only Paul can fix this. I'm happy to hear that he may end up as a guest on Beck's program, which has the potential to go a long way in patching up some damage to the campaign. However, I still maintain that that is not enough. These "Nazi" correlations to the campaign are gaining steam -- and it is not a conspiracy of the CFR, dammit!

There's something in the house that smells. And it's up to Dr. Paul to take out the trash, or else allow it to stay....

 

[Revolution9]

This is more significant than simply a smear attack. The govt is creating laws, and setting up commities to investigate what they consider to be "potential home grown terrorirsts". Constitutionalists, gun right activists, and home schoolers are just a few of those that Fema considers to fit this criteria.

If the media is making a concerted effort to imply RP supporters, libertarians, federal reserve protesters, 911 official conspiracy doubters, or anti war activists, and other political dissenters are such than we are heading down a road to hell.

And this roght here is why the hue and cry must go up in multiple mass driven momentum. What are they gonna do... Round up and jail tens of thousands.. Whereas if we follow the no shit disturbing rule then those few who are doing what their conscience says without fear get the jackboot spotlight. Then all you flubber dubbers can whip out your "I told you so" gambit..

Beck should be reomoved and he will revert to a life chained inside a bottle of liquopr which will get cheaper and cheaper with each passing week with no paycheque. He may have to resort to actually finding a job instead of performing fellatio on the PTB out of one side of his mouth while speaking from his rectum simultaneously for his treats and doggie bone.

randy

 

[courtney]

courtney, When asked, Ron Paul will address the issues we have been discussing. To reply to a second rate shill like Glenn Beck is is beneath Dr. Pauls dignity and only rewards gutter journalism... Unfortunately, too many of Mr. Becks brain dead listeners will accept him at his word, and it is our responsibility to ensure he is not rewarded for his smears of the good Doctor, but exposed and punished for being the charleton he is.

If it were only Glenn Beck questioning elements from within the movement, then I wouldn't be concerned. However, I have read enough on these forums, and heard enough on Ron Paul Radio to know that the concerns of some are not altogether unfounded.

Articles are appearing with more frequency that focus on the fringe elements that have taken root within the movement. This is not due to some conspiracy to discredit Paul. It's the normal course of politics, and frankly, Ron Paul knows damned well that there are questions being asked as Jesse Benton has previously noted.

The problem is that Paul apparently hopes these issues will just disappear on their own. Well, I'm here to tell you that these issues Will Not just go away, and in fact, Ron Paul needs to address these issues soon. He is well aware of what's brewing out here....

 

[MsDoodahs]

I detest the idea of "thought crimes."

I detest attempts at "thought CONTROL," too.

Frankly, I don't care what my fellow Ron Paul supporters believe.

I believe that it is my responsibility to defend their right to believe as they choose.

That's one of the reasons I support Ron Paul.