Glenn Beck is going down everyone help out!!! TAKE ACTION!!!

[conner_condor]

We did not get here by being quiet. For those who think so might think again. If we don't start raisng hell with the MSM when they bad talk Ron Paul or us his supporters ,they will continue to do so. As been said on here, we must show them our power and the influence we have with their sponsors for BS lies over and over again they let their media spew. No more.
They pick up the pace and we should double ours. No more of their BS. We can control the media if we control their sponsors. No doubt in my mind about that. 4 candidates they talk about all the time. Ron Paul isn't 1 of them. That is a fact.

 

[tmg19103]

To the Honda contact:

Ms. Hartl:

I am a Ron Paul supporter. If you are not aware, he is running for president. He is a 10 term congressman and doctor who has delivered over 4,000 babies without killing one baby.

Dr. Paul is a true American patriot who wants to return America to constitutional principles. He is by far the MOST searched presidential candidate of either party on Google. The other week he raised $4.3 million online in ONE DAY - a record for any candidate at any time in history. He is on pace to raise $20 million this quarter, which should be tops of ANY presidential candidate.

Ron Paul's name is searched on Google almost as much as all GOP candidates combined. He is right behind Paris Hilton. His presidential website gets more hits that ANY other candidate's website (either party).

As you may be aware, Glenn Beck indicated that Ron Paul supporters were terrorists on his CNN show. This is beyond comprehension, but Beck is entitled to his warped opinion.

However, I have the right to boycott those who sponsor Beck. Realize that Honda as a Beck sponsor is listed on message boards that are read by ten of thousands of Ron Paul supporters - and they are outraged. My one email probably accounts for 50-100 Ron Paul supporters who won't bother to contact Honda, but who will boycott Honda.

And let me say that the fact that many advertisers buy time on CNN and don't know which show their ads will appear on has been discussed in front of tens of thousands of Ron Paul supporters on various forums and we DON'T CARE - you still sponsor Beck when an ad of yours appears on his show.

Thus, I will never never buy a Honda product again and I will tell ALL my friends and family to do the same because Honda sponsors a media personality who calls Americans who just want to vote for a presidential candidate "terrorists".

Sincerely,

Walgreens Media Relations
Mary Shultz, Walgreens Manager, Broadcast Media: 847-914-2961
200 Wilmot Road
Deerfield, IL 60015
(847) 914-2500
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Lexmark x2 859-232-2221
Director of Corporate Communications – Lexmark
Tim Fitzpatrick
[email protected]
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Liberty Mutual 617-357-9500
John Cusolito, Vice President, Corporate Communications – Liberty Mutual
Phone: 617-574-5512
Email: [email protected]
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Yellowbook 1-800-YB-YELLOW
http://www.yellowbook.com/contactus...
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Lazyboy
http://www.la-z-boy.com/contactus/
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Lending Tree 800-555-8733
Allison Vail - Manager of Corporate Communications – Lending Tree
704-943-8339
[email protected]
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Edward Jones 314-515-3269
John Boul, Manager of Global Media Relations of Edward Jones
(314) 515-3265
E-mail: [email protected]
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Hyundai 800-633-5151
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Direct Buy 800-988-6049
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AARP 800-852-0879
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Schwab Bank 866-855-9102
415-636-5454 Speak to Glen Mathison or Greg Gable
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Legalzoom 323-962-8600 or 800-773-0888
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Joesph A Bank Clothiers (JoB Clothiers) x2 1-800-999-7472
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American Express x3 877-890-2639
212-640-5951 Speak to Mike O’Neal
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Cialis (Lilly Corp) x2 1-877-242-5471
317-276-2000
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Honda 800-999-1009, 310-783-2000
Ann Hartl, person in charge of advertising
“she wants to hear from us”
E-mail: [email protected]
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[LibertyEagle]

Which do I want LibertyEagle? Fear of shadows or turn everything into a war? Sounds like George Bush Dichotomy. You are either with us or against us. Black and white, yes or no.
I don't want a war, but i definitely don't want you making my decisions for me. If you feel compelled to continue this discussion, PM me. Don't add to this crappy thread. we can discuss this in private.

Perhaps you should have considered THAT, before you responded. I'm not putting you in ANY camp, Torch. If you want to do that, by all means, go for it. Nor, do I care if you want to spend your time writing letters to Beck's sponsors. Heck, I'll probably write 1 or 2 too. My concern is only that with each attack, we all seem to get more and more off our focus of promoting Paul amongst all those who don't know about him. This is only the beginning of the attacks. They are going to get much more frequent and much dirtier. If we're flipping out NOW, I wonder how it's going to be in a month or so. That's my only concern.

I'm not your enemy, Torch. Chill.

 

[Apauled]

Realize that we are only going to be attacked more and more as we "GAIN" popularity, as all do. Believe me, what it first does is raise the attention of his name (better than no press at all! perhaps). Second and most importantlyyou cannot fool the people all of the time, and will perform thei own due-dilligence. And finally, remember what Gahandi said about first they laugh at you, then they ridicule, then you win!

P.S. every negative has a positive and vice - versa

 

[torchbearer]

Perhaps you should have considered THAT, before you responded. I'm not putting you in ANY camp, Torch. If you want to do that, by all means, go for it. Nor, do I care if you want to spend your time writing letters to Beck's sponsors. Heck, I'll probably write 1 or 2 too. My concern is only that with each attack, we all seem to get more and more off our focus of promoting Paul amongst all those who don't know about him. This is only the beginning of the attacks. They are going to get much more frequent and much dirtier. If we're flipping out NOW, I wonder how it's going to be in a month or so. That's my only concern.

I agree 100% with your concern, people are flipping out over everything... I just get tired of this crap.
I personally, right now, can't do anything but cringe in pain all day in my bedroom because of health issues....this is the most I can do. For anyone who slams me for it... i take offense.
The assumption that I'm distracted and wasting my time is what really insults me the most.

We agree that this is a problem... we should also agree that everyone will deal with it in there own way... I trust you will do what you feel is best for the campaign, and you should have the same trust in me.

 

[LFOD]

That's not what I said. I did not say sit down and shut up, I said win him over. Just do it with a carrot, not a stick.

I appreciate the sentiment, but you're naive to Glenn Beck's intentions. He is not going to be won over. There is no coherent way for a commentator like that to suddenly see the light and start telling his viewers that we should get out of Iraq, and everywhere else in the world, for that matter. If we win this thing, it is certainly not going to be with the help of the Glenn Becks of this country.

 

[Ozwest]

I am not new, nor am I afraid of jack s***. As far as the calling goes, we tried the same thing in South Carolina. However, there we didn't have to shut down anything. As it turns out, all we had to do was get someone from the campaign to actually TALK to the man. We all know the campaign wasn't the best at responding to emails and phone calls, back then.

Not EVERYTHING has to be approached as a frickin' WAR. If you draw the line in the sand now, you are leaving the vast majority of the American people on the other side of the line. That means WE WILL lose this election. Now, when we are getting a massive number of converts. Do you think that is particularly wise?

Yeah, there's hysteria alright and I see it coming from both sides. Those afraid of their shadows and those who want to turn everything into a war.

Write the sponsors, if you want to. It's up to everyone to make their own decision. But, it is not a substitute for campaigning for Dr. Paul. We aren't going to win this, just by going after the likes of Beck.

The campaign should not bother responding to this buffoon, as Mr. Beck is not worthy of cleaning Dr. Pauls Nikes... On the other hand, the grassroots are capable of banning this piece of excrement and the same from the airwaves of a corrupt media... Is it not those who oppose the exposing of these "rock spiders" that are "afraid of their shadows?"

 

[me3]

Yes, let's all just sit quietly while the smear aritists develop the theme that we're domestic terrorists, and that Ron Paul is a racist, and an anti-Semite. Let's all just be nice and polite so we don't offend anyone. Let's just IGNORE it all, maybe it will "go away".

It will go away if we can get Dr. Paul elected. It will set a precedent for a new consciousness. Fighting ignorance can be a lifelong mission, but we're on a short timetable to get Dr. Paul elected.

But you have to believe in the elect ability of Dr. Paul, the necessity of a focused grassroots campaign and the power to change more than sponsorship of a radio show. We have to believe in ourselves.

We didn't get this far by being nice and complacent. You, the new people, would have never heard about Ron Paul if it wasn't for We The People making a lot of noise.

Remember that when you try to silence your fellow man out of "fear". You will never be free until you loose the fear.

No one here is preaching apathy or complacency. What I am getting is, "if you're mad at Glenn, campaign harder". Use Glenn's ignorance as a motivator, not a primary or secondary target.

The campaign may have to evolve. It goes through different phases, and the tactics of 4 or 6 months ago may not be what is needed today. It's no longer a minor fringe campaign, we're on the verge of going mainstream, and that may require a different approach to be successful. The positive media attention has been coming, but unless we stuff the ballot box, it's all for naught.

 

[me3]

I appreciate the sentiment, but you're naive to Glenn Beck's intentions. He is not going to be won over. There is no coherent way for a commentator like that to suddenly see the light and start telling his viewers that we should get out of Iraq, and everywhere else in the world, for that matter. If we win this thing, it is certainly not going to be with the help of the Glenn Becks of this country.

What if Glenn gets fired, and they hire someone even more vile and ignorant?

You have to change the public perception, and you have to change the system. Fighting a foot soldier of the neocons is not going to win the war.

To each their own, but logic just doesn't add up to the attack mentality.

 

[torchbearer]

No one here is preaching apathy or complacency. What I am getting is, "if you're mad at Glenn, campaign harder". Use Glenn's ignorance as a motivator, not a primary or secondary target.

The campaign may have to evolve. It goes through different phases, and the tactics of 4 or 6 months ago may not be what is needed today. It's no longer a minor fringe campaign, we're on the verge of going mainstream, and that may require a different approach to be successful. The positive media attention has been coming, but unless we stuff the ballot box, it's all for naught.

A very reasonable argument, I concede that things are different now...

 

[Ozwest]

What if Glenn gets fired, and they hire someone even more vile and ignorant?

You have to change the public perception, and you have to change the system. Fighting a foot soldier of the neocons is not going to win the war.

To each their own, but logic just doesn't add up to the attack mentality.

Then we push for his removal. Should we give up the fight for this reason? Just put it in the too hard basket. That is a illogical and defeatest attitude,

 

[me3]

Then we push for his removal. Should we give up the fight for this reason? Just put it in the too hard basket. That is a illogical and defeatest attitude,

Not "put it in the too hard basket".

How about putting it in the "diminishing returns basket"?

There is no guarantee of success, no tangible return to Dr. Paul's campaign, and no assurances that it won't make things worse, possibly with an even more stupid host of the show.

If that's worth investing in, because you don't like being called names, best of luck.

I've got thicker skin than that, and my eyes on a bigger prize.

 

[Dary]

My email to La-Z-Boy -

Dear La-Z-Boy -

I love my La-Z-Boy recliners. I have 3 of them. They are so comfortable that I actually sleep in one of them and have for many years.

I've vowed that I would never buy another recliner unless it was a La-Z-Boy.

I am also a fan of Dr. Ron Paul.

I understand that La-Z-Boy is a sponsor of Glenn Beck who recently likened me to a terrorist on his television show because of my support of Dr. Paul for president.

There isn't much I can do about Glenn Beck, but I was hoping that you as a sponsor might be able to relay the message to Glenn that your customers are not at all pleased with being referred to as terrorists.

I would never boycott your company. I just couldn't. I love your product far too much.

I just hope that I don’t lose any sleep over this.

Best regards,
Dary
Jacksonville, FL

 

[jamesmadison]

What if Glenn gets fired, and they hire someone even more vile and ignorant?

You have to change the public perception, and you have to change the system. Fighting a foot soldier of the neocons is not going to win the war.

To each their own, but logic just doesn't add up to the attack mentality.

If Glenn was fired they would have to justify his firing with some reason. If they were to present his hateful actions as evidence that he does not represent america, that is a demagogue and a stupid one at that - then they have grounds to fire him. Assume this happened they have all the reason in the world to hire someone who is nothing like glenn beck, let alone much worse.

It's just an illogical proposition.

 

[LFOD]

What if Glenn gets fired, and they hire someone even more vile and ignorant?

You have to change the public perception, and you have to change the system. Fighting a foot soldier of the neocons is not going to win the war.

To each their own, but logic just doesn't add up to the attack mentality.

I think we've seen the how the smear campaigns operate, time and time again. There are lessons to be learned there. There was McCain in 2000, Kerry in 2004. Those were orchestrated, deliberate smear *machines* at work. And did they achieve their objective? You bet.

So, while I am supportive of being respectful, and above all *rational* and not lowering oneself to smearing someone in return, I think we have to be aggressive in actively countering the attack machine as it gears up, because it *does* work, and if we don't understand how and where it operates, we're going to get bulldozed by it. That is not a conspiracy theory, that's politics, at least how it exists today.

We can't counter it by just relying on the public to see through the lies on their own. We have to counter it with a relentless campain of truth.

 

[jamesmadison]

Not "put it in the too hard basket".

How about putting it in the "diminishing returns basket"?

There is no guarantee of success, no tangible return to Dr. Paul's campaign, and no assurances that it won't make things worse, possibly with an even more stupid host of the show.

If that's worth investing in, because you don't like being called names, best of luck.

I've got thicker skin than that, and my eyes on a bigger prize.

With your logic we can justify his removal with the theory that "someone who is a ron paul supporter may be put in place of glenn beck.' Then, we have all the reason in the world, to support this.

Seriously. Let people do whatever they want and stop acting like a child who didn't get a lollypop.

 

[me3]

Look folks, if you could convince me that fighting these smear attacks will gain us votes in the next 50 days, I would be standing on the front line, hammering away emails with the best of you.

But I want Dr. Paul elected before I want Glenn Beck fired. And I don't see how getting Beck fired, even in 2 weeks, is going to positively and meaningfully impact us at the ballot box.

This recent posting by Bradley in the News forum is exactly what I am talking about. The campaign cannot win if it stays small. And keeping us militant and distracted is a good way to prevent viral growth.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37963

 

[jamesmadison]

Look folks, if you could convince me that fighting these smear attacks will gain us votes in the next 50 days, I would be standing on the front line, hammering away emails with the best of you.

But I want Dr. Paul elected before I want Glenn Beck fired. And I don't see how getting Beck fired, even in 2 weeks, is going to positively and meaningfully impact us at the ballot box.

This recent posting by Bradley in the News forum is exactly what I am talking about. The campaign cannot win if it stays small. And keeping us militant and distracted is a good way to prevent viral growth.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37963

Your theory is that sending a few emails to advertisers of glenn beck will somehow prevent the campaign from achieving viral growth. There is no evidence of this, and no evidence that a few emails by certain supporters will distract or keep the campaign militant. The fact is if people want to voice their opinion to sponsors of a moron neocon on TV that is their choice. If people want to use this as a recruitment tool for others who think Glenn Beck is a moron, then they may attract people to the Ron Paul campaign because of a common enemy.

I think you are wasting your own time, personally.

 

[Ozwest]

Not "put it in the too hard basket".

How about putting it in the "diminishing returns basket"?

There is no guarantee of success, no tangible return to Dr. Paul's campaign, and no assurances that it won't make things worse, possibly with an even more stupid host of the show.

If that's worth investing in, because you don't like being called names, best of luck.

I've got thicker skin than that, and my eyes on a bigger prize.

I disagree that there only "diminishing returns" when exposing "hit pieces." Firstly, we are only expressing our rights to free speech, and this should never be discouraged, when done in a thoughtful and constructive manner, and secondly, if those in the media know they will be "held to the fire" when speaking or writing in half-truths and slanderously, they are encouraged to follow more ethical journalistic principles.

 

[paulitics]

Jesse Benton is on AJ talking about this now.