And finally this evening, I promised to get back with you torchbearer, so here I am.
Originally Posted by torchbearer
Courtney, he was calling you fringe. He was calling you a neo-nazi. And if He had his way, people would stone you to death for hating america. get it? he is lumping us all into that category simply because we support ron paul.
I wonder if this is how the Jews of Nazi Germany felt when they were starting to fall victim to hate speech propaganda?
They probably even has some "apologist" in their group.
I watched the clip again, and this what I will say about it. I still believe that Glenn Beck's stated concerns ("fears") are real. I share those same concerns.
This is what he stated about the November 5th, Guy Fawkes themed money bomb:
Now the vast majority of Paul's supporters take this little metaphor the way it's intended -- as a rallying cry to create a dramatic political shift."
He goes on to explain that it's not the way he would go about fundraising -- especially in a post-9/11 world, but let's face it, it's not the way many of us Paul supporters would have gone about it either, as the debates here attest. He then continues with a discussion about the "rising tide of disenfranchisement;" that it appears, to him, that the government, which consists of both Republicans and Democrats, is simply out of touch with the people, and that it appears that the government is "selling the Country out to special interest."
This is the thing he's apparently concerned about. When the people, in any nation, begin to rise up against their government with their pitchforks, which is what I believe is representative by the Ron Paul Revolution, what were once considered "fringe" elements (for better or for worse) have an opportunity that they once didn't have to gain power. This can be good, or this can be bad, depending on one's perspective.
However,
anytime that there exists a massive "disenfranchisement" as GB puts it, there will be elements within that movement who are very, very angry -- and those folks will typically be better represented within the core of the movement. These folks are highly motivated, and refuse to compromise an inch, for they feel they've compromised just about
everything they value for too long as it stands.
Again, he invited two guests that were very wary of what's going on, but that's not to say that Beck is being disingenuous. I will agree that he purposely allowed his guests , in fact, he
expected his guests to pull no punches. Perhaps some of that was a jab at the campaign for snubbing him over Blitzer, but I do believe that his concerns are for real.
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Lastly, I'll just throw this in here for the heck of it before I sign out. This movement does remind me of when Rush Limbaugh was gaining big-time steam in the early '90's. And although I weened myself from Limbaugh many moons ago, the same accusations and concerns were lobbed at him as are being raised against Dr. Paul's campaign and supporters. Moreover, any bad press against Limbaugh was met voraciously by his supporters, including me, much the same as Dr. Paul's supporters react en masse to
any negative publicity today.
I did, thankfully

, finally realize that Limbaugh is just a human being. But most importantly, I learned that not all of the criticisms being lobbed at Limbaugh were "hit pieces" intending to discredit the man who cannot possibly speak any wrong. In fact, some of the criticism was earned, and well deserved....