Gaza under attack by Israel

[klamath]

Not to mention the British Empire already collapsed. We don't have to point out how they're a bunch of greedy, violent land.resource grabbers because the sun already set on the British empire. Instead, we get to use their past as an example of how not to conduct foreign policy.

Why is that tiny collasped empire able to control all of the resolutions to attack countries in the UN security council?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I believe the rhetoric you hear in these forums is aimed not necessarily on Israel but rather at the influence of AIPAC and its corrupt effects on foreign policies and debate within this country. I can't speak for others on here but that is what I sense from listening to Ron talk about "entangling alliances."

I agree with what Ron says, but that is not largely what I see on these forums. I see hatred of Israel and a glorification of the Palestinians. Neither are perfect.

I just want us to stop funding any and all of them and somehow stop our government representatives from being bought off by special interests, or be thrown in prison where they belong.

 

[thequietkid10]

What is sad, is that RT and Al Jazeera are more fair and unbiased than our corporately controlled media.

Oh give me a ****ing break.

I'll give you a pass on Al Jazeera but RT is bias as anyone. It's bias towards what you like criticisms of western and Israeli military actions, but they are noticeably quiet about Russia military intervention (hello Georgia and Chechnya). Instead when talking about their own government about half of what I've seen for RT are stories about how awesome Putin is.

 

[robert9712000]

Oh give me a ****ing break.

I'll give you a pass on Al Jazeera but RT is bias as anyone. It's bias towards what you like criticisms of western and Israeli military actions, but they are noticeably quiet about Russia military intervention (hello Georgia and Chechnya). Instead when talking about their own government about half of what I've seen for RT are stories about how awesome Putin is.

i agree,its like Rush Limbaugh,he will usually have a spot on analysis of what wrong with the democrats,but he will turn a blind eye on anything the republicans do.Its easy to be critical of what your against,but hard to be unbiased to your own constituents.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

JFKIII, just how many threads are you going to post those videos in? You do realize that just because something is in a video, doesn't make it factual, right?

That's correct, just like all the Ron Paul videos, you have to have good content. Have you watched any of them to see if they have good content?

 

[UWDude]

I just want us to stop funding any and all of them and somehow stop our government representatives from being bought off by special interests, or be thrown in prison where they belong.

Let me know when that happens. In the meantime, Israel is a blight on the planet and prime pusher of Injustice in Palestine, with the red White and Blue paying for it all.

I'll give you a pass on Al Jazeera....

Al Jazeera is a tool of Qatar, er go, a tool of the U.S., and when it comes time to start droppin' bombs, they line up behind NATO. Libya proves it.

 

[angelatc]

If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.

Yeah, well, there's quite a few issues like that. Which other issues should we hush up about to placate the GOP psychopaths?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yeah, well, there's quite a few issues like that. Which other issues should we hush up about to placate the GOP psychopaths?

Military
War on drugs
Marriage
Department of Education
Social Security
Medicare

Who wants to continue?

 

[RockEnds]

Military
War on drugs
Marriage
Department of Education
Social Security
Medicare

Who wants to continue?

The IRS. Remember that Anita woman who, in the summer of 2007, went around from state to state telling us never, ever, ever to speak of abolishing the IRS? Ah, those were the daze....

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

The IRS. Remember that Anita woman who, in the summer of 2007, went around from state to state telling us never, ever, ever to speak of abolishing the IRS? Ah, those were the daze....

Yes! How could I have forgotten? The GOP doesn't want to eliminate the income tax - the basers want everyone to have to pay it!

 

[Brett85]

Yeah, well, there's quite a few issues like that. Which other issues should we hush up about to placate the GOP psychopaths?

Like I said before, hating Israel is not part of a non interventionist foreign policy, nor is it part of liberty.

 

[thequietkid10]

Yeah, well, there's quite a few issues like that. Which other issues should we hush up about to placate the GOP psychopaths?

How about the issues we have no control over. We can cut off funding to Israel but we can't tell Israel how to conduct it's military affairs, unless you want to violate the principal of non intervention.

 

[Dystopian]

Seems like every other thread there is someone telling others what they should and should not post. The next election is 4 years away, and I couldn't give a shit less what an easily offended GOP Joe Blow thinks about my forum posts.

 

[amy31416]

Like I said before, hating Israel is not part of a non interventionist foreign policy, nor is it part of liberty.

I've openly taken the side of Palestine due to my own morality--I'm pretty sure Angela has NEVER stated that she hated Israel (nor have I, for that matter.) And you do not determine what is and what is not part of liberty. Thankfully, since Palestinians have been in bondage since 1948.

If you want to stop sounding like a fool, you need to drop this politically correct bullshit--it's dishonest and immoral.

 

[furface]

Like I said before, hating Israel is not part of a non interventionist foreign policy, nor is it part of liberty.

Nor is telling people how they should feel about any particular subject.

I believe a more reasonable conversation would be to discuss whether it's reasonable to dislike Israel in the same way that people might dislike ethnic supremacist driven, authoritarian governments that use violence to antagonize their neighbors & draw the US into violent conflicts.

I don't believe anybody here is suggesting that the US should actively take the Palestinian side on this conflict.

Suggesting that people should withhold their feelings and thoughts about Israel and its history is (yawn) yet another attempt to obscure the free exchange of ideas.

 

[UWDude]

How about the issues we have no control over. We can cut off funding to Israel...

Yeah, and when that happens, I'll stop bitching. Unless of course, Israel nukes someone. Then I think I'll be downright pissed at them.

 

[RockEnds]

Apparently the British Chief Rabbi thinks this may go past the Palestinian problem...when he doesn't think he's on the air, that is.

 

[amy31416]

I took the side of the Jews during WWII--because imprisoning, stealing, murdering and using people is wrong. Just as I took the side of the slaves and the Native Americans.

So when a few select people take umbrage at me using "strong language" in this and other threads--I ask you, have you put yourself in the shoes of the Palestinian people? Have you researched the actual facts regarding Israel's creation? Have you considered what you would do if your own child was a casualty of this "conflict" that should not be a conflict?

I do not care one whit for any religious belief when it attempts to make these things okay, because in my view--that is the antithesis of Christianity. It is the antithesis of morality--I do not care if you think it will bring back Jesus, because in my view, if Jesus is who you think he is, he will smite you for supporting such things. Prince of Peace, right?

If you think this makes me an anti-semite, you are as dumb as a bag of hammers--or you are spouting Hasbara.

I know this--if someone were to kill my child or a member of my family due to this sort of bullshit, it would be my life's work to make sure that those responsible paid the price. I am not Jesus, and I do not forgive such an incredible transgression.

The Ten Commandments apply or they don't, right?

If the Israelis can steal, murder, abort babies, covet and do it with the protection of American "Christians"--then why would I ever consider them legitimate? I don't care about ridiculous stuff like keeping Sharia law out of the US--and all this warfare does is bring (ironically) more Muslims to the US, so idiots like Peter King can scream like a twat about them, without ever seeing the underlying reasons that they're here in the first place.

Doing and supporting immoral actions has repercussions, it's a lot like karma. Think your choices through.

 

[puppetmaster]

I took the side of the Jews during WWII--because imprisoning, stealing, murdering and using people is wrong. Just as I took the side of the slaves and the Native Americans.

So when a few select people take umbrage at me using "strong language" in this and other threads--I ask you, have you put yourself in the shoes of the Palestinian people? Have you researched the actual facts regarding Israel's creation? Have you considered what you would do if your own child was a casualty of this "conflict" that should not be a conflict?

I do not care one whit for any religious belief when it attempts to make these things okay, because in my view--that is the antithesis of Christianity. It is the antithesis of morality--I do not care if you think it will bring back Jesus, because in my view, if Jesus is who you think he is, he will smite you for supporting such things. Prince of Peace, right?

If you think this makes me an anti-semite, you are as dumb as a bag of hammers--or you are spouting Hasbara.

I know this--if someone were to kill my child or a member of my family due to this sort of bullshit, it would be my life's work to make sure that those responsible paid the price. I am not Jesus, and I do not forgive such an incredible transgression.

The Ten Commandments apply or they don't, right?

If the Israelis can steal, murder, abort babies, covet and do it with the protection of American "Christians"--then why would I ever consider them legitimate? I don't care about ridiculous stuff like keeping Sharia law out of the US--and all this warfare does is bring (ironically) more Muslims to the US, so idiots like Peter King can scream like a twat about them, without ever seeing the underlying reasons that they're here in the first place.

Doing and supporting immoral actions has repercussions, it's a lot like karma. Think your choices through.

stop with that crazy talk...they are beyond reproach!!

 

[Okie RP fan]

I am personally not going to take a "side" as if it were a spectator sport. These groups of people have been going at it for decades over many issues. I think it has the potential to start another major Middle East conflict, if not world war. And I either want it to happen quickly, or not at all. And by taking sides, I feel it just adds to the hatred spewing about.

People need to understand that it's the government of Israel, not the people of Israel themselves, fighting. I'm sure the people of Israel want peace much like the untainted (those not warped by Hamas) Palestinians do, perhaps just by different measures, if anything. Of course, this doesn't speak for all, but, I know there are pockets of people within the population that wish as much.