Gaza under attack by Israel

[Qdog]

While this may not have been the best way to do it, Israel has a right to deal with national security threats. Hamas are a major national security threat to Israel and should be tackled appropriately.

Israel may be far from perfect, but it's relatively tame compared to the sort of things that go on in other countries in the region.

The United States should not condemn the actions taken by Israel. Nor should they be providing them with aid to fund things like this.

yep, The Nazis crushing the jewish ghetto resistance in ww2 was a matter of national security as well.

 

[dillo]

America helping Israel hold on to stolen land from the Palastinians is like Russia helping the American Indians take back all of their land. The indians lost their land 200 years ago, the israelis 1000

 

[pcosmar]

Peaceful for the most part? LOL. Get out of here. Your bias is glaring. Both sides have their religious nuts. LET THEM FIGHT!!! Intervention is futile. If you've never been to that part of the world, I would suggest you keep your mouth shut.

This goes beyond Zionism.

I can search history. Yes there have been empires. and the have had conflicts.
And yes,,politicized religion have been used to soup folks up. There was nothing Christian about the Crusades,, It was about empire expansion.

The fact is,, that was a relatively peaceful area before the Zionist movement in the late 1800s. It was getting violent in the 1900s as The same forces pushed 2 World Wars (Rothschild Empire). There was a full blown Zionist invasion in the 1930s with aid from Nazi interests.

These are verifiable facts. Zionism is National Socialism (by definition), It is not Judaism. The founders of Zionism rejected Judaism and rejected God, and only use it as a political tool.



I would suggest you educate yourself.

 

[furface]

This is turning out to be an interesting conflict. The Palestinian rats have been busy since Israel last got their willies out on Gaza. Considering rats hanging around in places they've dwelt for thousands of years, I'll pick the local rats over the newcomer wolfs every time. PressTV is reporting a downed Israeli F-16. Whether it's true or not, it raises lots of question, not the least of which is what is happening to the anti-aircraft equipment America & allies are giving to Syrian rebels.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

First, on Monday, November 5th, Israeli forces shot and killed 23 year old Ahmad Nabhani when he “approached the border fence with Israel.” According to at least one account, Nabhani was mentally challenged.

Read here: http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/israels-latest-assault-on-gaza-the-lie-of-who-started-it/

Now why does that sound so familiar? Militarized police killing innocent people under dubious circumstances? Circular force continuum? How many Palestinian dogs are getting shot?

 

[pcosmar]

How many Palestinian dogs are getting shot?

The Zionists consider them all dogs.

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."
Prime Minister Menachem Begin

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

David Ben-Gurion

 

[robert68]

The Zionists consider them all dogs.

Shhhh..... Americans aren't supposed to know that.

 

[Barrex]

[h=2]Gaza under attack by Israel [/h]/

AND VICE VERSA!

 

[Jlasoon]

I would suggest you educate yourself.

If you haven't been to that part of the world "SHHH". Your argument reminds me of stupid Democrats who blame our economic woes on George Bush. Yes, he may of helped in the destruction, but the reality is that 100 years of Fed policy has killed our economy.

Like I said, you see Zionism, but I see religious zeal, the Crusades, the Muslim Conquests and everything in-between including the BOOK OF GENESIS.

 

[Jlasoon]

AND VICE VERSA!

Too much anti-semitism within the Ron Paul faction. Don't you know that the poor Palestinians are simply trying to enjoy their hot cocoa and gum gum drops?

 

[pcosmar]

Too much anti-semitism within the Ron Paul faction. Don't you know that the poor Palestinians are simply trying to enjoy their hot cocoa and gum gum drops?

It is not "anti-semitism"

Palestinians are mostly Semite,, Zionists are mostly NOT.

They are Khazar ancestry,, and that would make them Japhetic. (as am I)

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Now why does that sound so familiar? Militarized police killing innocent people under dubious circumstances? Circular force continuum? How many Palestinian dogs are getting shot?

Also important:

It happened near the border.

Immigration hawks take notice. This is what you ostensibly support.

 

[furface]

Too much anti-semitism within the Ron Paul faction. Don't you know that the poor Palestinians are simply trying to enjoy their hot cocoa and gum gum drops?

Did someone mention anti-semenism? It's a terrible thing you know. When your girlfriend or wife doesn't swallow it's a horrible insult to your masculinity.

 

[angelatc]

Too much anti-semitism within the Ron Paul faction. Don't you know that the poor Palestinians are simply trying to enjoy their hot cocoa and gum gum drops?

AIPAC is a master at propaganda. It cann't be a coincidence that everytime the fighting in that area starts, new posters show up, either disrupting threads that criticize Israel or calling us a bunch of Jew haters.

The more I see this, the more evil I see. The truth doesn't require smokescreens.

 

[androidappme]

The religious ideology of the Palestinian Authority religious leaders can be summarized by eight essential principles:

Regarding the Jews:

Jews are the enemy of Allah.

Islam is fighting a continuous religious war against the Jews.

The killing of Jews is a religious obligation.

Palestinians are the vanguard in this war against the Jews, and all Islamic nations are obligated to assist in this war.

Regarding Israel:

- All of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea (which includes all of Israel) is a religious Waqf -- an Islamic religious trust. Any Moslem who relinquishes any part to Israel is damned to Hell.

- All agreements with Israel are inherently temporary in nature, and are signed only because of Israel's temporary balance of power advantage.

- Allah will replace Moslems who shirk their obligation to battle Israel.

- The ultimate destruction of Israel is a certainty.

The Palestinians repeatedly use Islamic sources to defend this religious hatred, even demanding the killing of Jews as a current obligation and the will of Allah. At least four times in recent months, Palestinian religious leaders have taught publicly that the following Hadith (Islamic traditions attributed to Mohammed) is an authoritative directive of Islam today, expressing Allah's will that obedient Moslems kill Jews. According to Sheikh Muhammed Abd al Hadi La'afi, quoted in the official P.A. newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (May 18, 2001), and Dr. Muhammed Ibrahim Madi, delivering the main Friday sermon on Palestinian TV (April 13, 2001), the Hadith itself states:

"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

 

[furface]

You seem to be suffering from anti-semenism androidappme. You should masturbate using real physical parts, not the video screen in your tiny, little head.

The religious ideology of the Palestinian Authority religious leaders can be summarized by eight essential principles:

Regarding the Jews:

Jews are the enemy of Allah.

Islam is fighting a continuous religious war against the Jews.

The killing of Jews is a religious obligation.

Palestinians are the vanguard in this war against the Jews, and all Islamic nations are obligated to assist in this war.

Regarding Israel:

- All of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea (which includes all of Israel) is a religious Waqf -- an Islamic religious trust. Any Moslem who relinquishes any part to Israel is damned to Hell.

- All agreements with Israel are inherently temporary in nature, and are signed only because of Israel's temporary balance of power advantage.

- Allah will replace Moslems who shirk their obligation to battle Israel.

- The ultimate destruction of Israel is a certainty.

The Palestinians repeatedly use Islamic sources to defend this religious hatred, even demanding the killing of Jews as a current obligation and the will of Allah. At least four times in recent months, Palestinian religious leaders have taught publicly that the following Hadith (Islamic traditions attributed to Mohammed) is an authoritative directive of Islam today, expressing Allah's will that obedient Moslems kill Jews. According to Sheikh Muhammed Abd al Hadi La'afi, quoted in the official P.A. newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (May 18, 2001), and Dr. Muhammed Ibrahim Madi, delivering the main Friday sermon on Palestinian TV (April 13, 2001), the Hadith itself states:

"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

It is not "anti-semitism"

Palestinians are mostly Semite,, Zionists are mostly NOT.

They are Khazar ancestry,, and that would make them Japhetic. (as am I)

I'm interested in this, if you could share a few links without too much trouble. (will not change my opinion on this shit, but I like education and would personally appreciate your efforts.)

 

[Aeroneous]

Not trying to derail this thread, but does anyone have a recommendation for a good book pertaining to the creation of Israel or its history in general? I would prefer something without bias, although I know that's going to be next to impossible to come by. This is one aspect of international relations that I have to admit to being very uneducated about.

 

[furface]

Not trying to derail this thread, but does anyone have a recommendation for a good book pertaining to the creation of Israel or its history in general? I would prefer something without bias, although I know that's going to be next to impossible to come by. This is one aspect of international relations that I have to admit to being very uneducated about.

Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but check this out.

http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/

Shlomo Sand is an Israeli history professor, and his research is solid.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2, the link would probably work for your question as well.

“Countering official Zionist historiography, Sand questions whether the Jewish People ever existed as a national group with a common origin in the Land of Israel/Palestine. He concludes that the Jews should be seen as a religious community comprising a mishmash of individuals and groups that had converted to the ancient monotheistic religion but do not have any historical right to establish an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land. In short, the Jewish People, according to Sand, are not really a “people” in the sense of having a common ethnic origin and national heritage. They certainly do not have a political claim over the territory that today constitutes Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, including Jerusalem.”

http://www.ifamericansknew.org

 

[Aeroneous]

Probably not exactly what you're looking for but, check this out.

http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/

Shlomo Sand is an Israeli history professor, and his research is solid.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2, the link would probably work for your question as well.

Thanks for the link!