Gaza under attack by Israel

[compromise]

Are there sanctions on honey, sugar, and cement for the Cherokee?
Are there American settlements being taken from the reservation and housing being built on them for white Christians only?
IS there a big long guarded fence, and kill zone, surrounding the Cherokee reservation, with guarded entry ways where every Cherokee that wants to work outside of the reservation must wait in line hours each day to be patted down and given clearance by American Soldiers?

In the 19th century, it wasn't really all that different, obviously there were technological limitations then.

One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations. Long guarded fences, sanctions and kill zones are common along borders between enemy nations. Look at South Korea/North Korea, India/Pakistan, India/Bangladesh, Sudan/South Sudan, Cambodia/Thailand, DRC/Angola, Ethiopia/Eritrea, Venezuela/Columbia, etc. Each country feels the other is a threat to their national security.

 

[compromise]

So your saying he was for bombing Iraq's nuke plant?

Where did I say that? I was responding to someone who said Israel deserve condemnation. Israel deserve nothing from the government. Neither government aid, nor government condemnation. Same with Palestine.

 

[awake]

Where did I say that? I was responding to someone who said Israel deserve condemnation. Israel deserve nothing from the government. Neither government aid, nor government condemnation. Same with Palestine.

Ahh...Ok, my bad.

 

[Jon311]

Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?

 

[dannno]

Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?

Incorrect

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/israels-latest-assault-on-gaza-the-lie-of-who-started-it/

 

[Zippyjuan]

Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?

Low level "skirmishes" have been going on for practically forever. But the assasination greatly raised the level of responce and violence.

 

[UWDude]

In the 19th century, it wasn't really all that different, obviously there were technological limitations then.

Oh, I could have sworn your post was used in a present tense manner for greater misleading impact.
Hey, look:

Just as the Cherokee Nation is a concentration camp occupied by Oklahoma..

Is that the word "is" I see?
Are you going to try and tell me it depends on what the definition of "is" is?
Or wait, your fingers slipped, and you meant to type "was" right?
Because now you are talking 19th century all of the sudden, when called out on your BULLSHIT.

Nice attempt at a fast one, there slick, but you didn't fool me.

One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations.

No, Palestine is not a nation, America and Israel will never allow it to be. It is an occupied territory.

 

[Muwahid]

The arguments over who started it are totally irrelevant, because the very existence of Israel is an attack on the basic human rights of the Palestinians. The fact of the matter is Hamas is extremely passive in the face of Israel, but they are perfect since they also cast the "Islamist" aura which scares all the westerners unlike the PLO which was seen as the face of resistance for some time.

Hamas actively arrests (and executes!!) people serious about fighting the Israelis, but this wasn't enough. They played nice which the Israelis, maybe it's time they don't anymore.

BTW I'm pretty sure Hamas' rockets don't even have exploding heads, they just sort of land and break a couple bricks, which is why in any confrontation only like 10 Israelis will die despite hundreds or thousands of these toy rockets being hurled across the border. Hamas also has no incentive to fire rockets at Israel unless Israel transgressed first, I mean duh... that's like asking to die.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Incorrect

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/israels-latest-assault-on-gaza-the-lie-of-who-started-it/

What I have viewed/heard on http://wwitv.com/

This all initially started with a couple Israeli solders shot a child. Then it all escalated... Israel says it started by rocket fire from Gaza.

Mohammed Omer reported from Gaza said that the Hamas leader just received the final drafts for a continuous truce, as well as the proposed deal for a permanent peace treaty. recently, reported that Israel is now launching attacks from sea.

Funniest of the US garbage shows reporting: CNBC the Kudlow Report, he and his guests, "IRAN is bombing Israel. All the bombs are from Iran... etc etc."

Remember, anything out of Cairo/Morsi's mouth is all planned.

 

[Jlasoon]

Why do we care what Israel or the Palestinians do to each other to resolve their conflicts? People need to stop meddling with other people's sh*t. Let the strong survive, and let the weak be decimated. Protect yourself, your family, and fight for your country, forget about this crap. Most would be terrified if I was Netanyahu. This crap has nothing to do with borders, or rights, or freedom. This has everything to do with religion. Rationality has no place in this conflict. Let one side wipe the floor with the other, and lets all move on. This escalation every few years is getting old, really old. Defending one side over another is infuriating and nauseating at the same time. LET THEM FIGHT, they've been doing it for thousands of years.

 

[pcosmar]

One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations. Long guarded fences, sanctions and kill zones are common along borders between enemy nations. Look at South Korea/North Korea, India/Pakistan, India/Bangladesh, Sudan/South Sudan, Cambodia/Thailand, DRC/Angola, Ethiopia/Eritrea, Venezuela/Columbia, etc. Each country feels the other is a threat to their national security.

???
How did they become enemies..
Palestinians,, (Christian,Jew and Arab) lived peaceably for the most part till Zionists invaded/infested the area.

As with ALL those other countries,, outside instigation is the cause of the fighting.

Israel has only existed since 1948,,, and has been stirring shit the whole time.
The Zionists started shit in the late 1800s when they came into existence.

They are a curse on the Jewish people and the world.

 

[pcosmar]

Why do we care what Israel or the Palestinians do to each other to resolve their conflicts?

Because our Foreign Policy and many domestic issues are directly tied to Israel. Israel Lobbies exert considerable and undue influence on our politicians.
And a third World War will have dire and direct consequences on life here.

LET THEM FIGHT, they've been doing it for thousands of years.

No. No they haven't.
Zionism has not been around for 200 years. And Palestine was peaceful for the most part for a thousand years before Zionism.

 

[Jlasoon]

No. No they haven't.
Zionism has not been around for 200 years. And Palestine was peaceful for the most part for a thousand years before Zionism.

Peaceful for the most part? LOL. Get out of here. Your bias is glaring. Both sides have their religious nuts. LET THEM FIGHT!!! Intervention is futile. If you've never been to that part of the world, I would suggest you keep your mouth shut.

This goes beyond Zionism.

 

[robert68]

He is against using the state as a mouth-piece to 'condemn' something or a nation in the name of the people, instead individuals should condemn the actions of governments and such.

It’s not interventionist for congresspersons to criticize a state for bombing another country, especially when the bombing was done with weapons their state provided it.

 

[phill4paul]

Interesting thought....

The nation of Israel believe that it is their 'right' to hold ancestral lands and that America should help them secure it.
America, as a union, holds the lands that are ancestral to the native Americans.
If we support Israel, economically and with munitions, should we not support the Native Americans in the same way?
Would we object if other nations did?

Things that make one go..hmmmm?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

It’s not interventionist for congresspersons to criticize a state for bombing another country, especially when the bombing was done with weapons their state provided for it.

Yes, when you look at what commenced this bloodshed, it was Israel's state apparatus that broadcasted the assassination of the HAMAS leader, like boasting their technological superiority at squashing ants in a video game. Weapons funded by stolen money from American taxpayers. This genocide on people creates security and safety repercussions here in the US. We are viewed as the enablers that armed the psychopaths ruling Israel that murder and imprison Palestinians.

US corporate media has been in full out warmongering retardation, along with GIYUS MEGAPHONE propagandizing every piece of social media/www dialog.

Even Joe the Plumber has it wrong in his tweets...

Tweets Top 8h Joe the Plumber ‏@RealJTP
4 those of u that won't support Israel. I would much rather b on ur bad side than GOD's bad side. GOD says standby Israel & I DO #tcot #jtp

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[robert68]

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[robert68]

Interesting thought....


Things that make one go..hmmmm?

Not to those who know and respect the actual facts.

 

[Qdog]

Pretty dumb to declare open war against someone 100x stronger than you.

BRB challenging Mike Tyson to a boxing match, crying when I lose saying its unfair.

Thats why you dont challenge him to a boxing match. You challenge him to never sleep, and when he does you slit his throat.

 

[Qdog]

The Russian government has propaganda objectives. Talking against Big Government and Oligarchy and Fascism and Socialism and Communism and watching RT or Al Jazeera sounds weird.

What is sad, is that RT and Al Jazeera are more fair and unbiased than our corporately controlled media.