Freddie Gray severed his own spinal cord

[donnay]

Next week we'll see video of Freddie from the CCTV in the van.

The antagonists never sleep.

 

[pacodever]

Its hard to tell whether the police would be stupid enough to leak this document thinking it helps their case. The document only states that the other prisoner heard Gray "banging against the walls" which is consistent to being handcuffed and leg-shackled, and tossed around the van, unrestrained. It also admits that this prisoner could not have seen Gray due to the metal partition, but only heard the banging. How was this prisoner able to conclude that Gray was intending to hurt himself, and not being tossed around the vehicle? The article did not mention any other basis for the prisoner's belief that Gray was trying to hurt himself other than the banging. Additionally, this prisoner wasn't picked up until the third stop. The police have admitted that they already made a second stop, when the driver felt it was necessary "to check on Gray," and they found him on the floor, requesting medical attention. They just picked him up and put him back in his seat, and continued on their way. So Gray, already in need of medical attention, handcuffed and shackled, and unable to keep himself seated was "banged" around the van until they stopped and found him unconscious at the police station.

Like I said, without more, I don't see how the prisoner's account helps the police case.

The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.

The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.

Police have mentioned only two prisoners in the van.

The van driver stopped three times while transporting Gray to a booking center, the first to put him in leg irons. Batts said the officer driving the van described Gray as “irate.” The search warrant application says Gray “continued to be combative in the police wagon.”

The driver made a second stop, five minutes later, and asked an officer to help check on Gray. At that stop, police have said the van driver found Gray on the floor of the van and put him back on the seat, still without restraints. Police said Gray asked for medical help at that point.

The third stop was to put the other prisoner — a 38-year-old man accused of violating a protective order — into the van. The van was then driven six blocks to the Western District station. Gray was taken from there to a hospital, where he died April 19.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I hadn't seen that before, but here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Freddie and his twin sister had lead poisoning as children from the house they grew up in and it appears that some court case related to that was misconstrued as being a car accident by the 'Free Republic' -- which has since removed the story.

The story about the lead poisoning is on the major media today. They basically are saying that all of the children in the house were brain damaged from lead dust.

 

[Qdog]

"Rough riding". Toss somebody into the back of the van and drive in such a manner the person is tossed around inside the van. Not the firs time either. Police admitted that he did not even have a seat belt on. They took their time in getting to their destination too- making other stops before checking on their prisoner in the back.

Paddy wagon's dont have seat belts in the back. Usually there are two benches running parallel to the walls of the van, with a wall in between to separate men and women.

As far as making other stops along the way... the entire purpose of using a paddy wagon is to pick up several prisoners and then then take them to jail all at once, which is a more efficient use of manpower.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Awww man, everything sucks. Utopia is right there and the only thing standing in my way is this stupid spinal cord. Let me just reach back aaaaaannnnndddd... SNAP! Ahhh wonderful!

 

[twomp]

The management of the police department is largely black. Wouldn't it just be easier to out the six and then ride in on the white horse as heroes of the community? In cases of governmental scandals, a lot of times the feds will sacrifice a mid level management type so as to show the public they are doing something proactive. If it's between the perceived integrity of the Baltimore Police Department and six measly cops, I'm giving the public the cops if I'm the kingmaker over there.

No you wouldn't because if you were a cop, you'd know you could do shit like this and get away with it. Why give each other up. They have people like you supporting them no matter what they do so why turn on each other now? This is how you train the community to obey you. You kill them without any repercussions.

 

[HankRicther12]

Take this shit to the cop sites dude. Your bosses created these urban plantations that your ilk harvest for your paychecks FFS. Don't act like every damn cop doesn't know what they are getting into. Go be a dentist you non-hacking whiner.

Couldn't someone translate that chunk of babble for me?

 

[dannno]

Couldn't someone translate that chunk of babble for me?

Cops kidnap and imprison innocent people for non-violent activities such as possessing plants and various plant materials. That is inherently immoral. If you are arrested for having marijuana, it would be totally justifiable to protect your own person and property by using whatever means necessary to defend yourself. Now, I don't recommend actually doing that because you will get killed, but defending yourself or your property against an attacker is not immoral. The cops are engaged in immoral actions on a daily basis and you have to have a certain mindset to get into it in the first place. It's the same mindset that allowed the Holocaust to happen. It's an appeal to authority, unabashed support of the Rule of Law, even if the law is wrong. It's not a healthy mindset.

Rand was right when he talked about how police have a difficult job because they have to uphold drug laws, if they took that away it would allow the cops to focus on real criminals and actually have a reasonable job where they aren't attacking innocent people on a daily basis.

The war on drugs is what has created the drug problems in our country, and all of the problems in Baltimore we see today is a result of that. It's a totally predictable result.

The war on drugs beefs up the police state, they get more funding when they make more drug convictions. They sell their property and keep the proceeds. It's just a really bad situation.

 

[Slave Mentality]

Couldn't someone translate that chunk of babble for me?

I guess it's no conspiracy that they look for the sub-100 IQ types.

 

[Pericles]

Those Baltimore cops really can do some amazing stuff. They made my video camera disappear some years back, right in the middle of recording them. If they can pull that off, then they would certainly seem to be capable of having someone break their own spine.

Grey was arrested for an "illegal" knife. Liberal gun control policies and the police that love them killed Freddie Grey.

 

[HankRicther12]

Cops kidnap and imprison innocent people for non-violent activities such as possessing plants and various plant materials. That is inherently immoral. If you are arrested for having marijuana, it would be totally justifiable to protect your own person and property by using whatever means necessary to defend yourself. Now, I don't recommend actually doing that because you will get killed, but defending yourself or your property against an attacker is not immoral. The cops are engaged in immoral actions on a daily basis and you have to have a certain mindset to get into it in the first place. It's the same mindset that allowed the Holocaust to happen. It's an appeal to authority, unabashed support of the Rule of Law, even if the law is wrong. It's not a healthy mindset.

Rand was right when he talked about how police have a difficult job because they have to uphold drug laws, if they took that away it would allow the cops to focus on real criminals and actually have a reasonable job where they aren't attacking innocent people on a daily basis.

The war on drugs is what has created the drug problems in our country, and all of the problems in Baltimore we see today is a result of that. It's a totally predictable result.

The war on drugs beefs up the police state, they get more funding when they make more drug convictions. They sell their property and keep the proceeds. It's just a really bad situation.

OK, and what does that have to do with anything I said? Also, I don't understand what the obsession here is with pot, in my town the cops don't even bother with pot, despite what many of you think most cops don't get up every day saying "I can't wait to go get me some pot heads", pretty much every cop I know would like pot to be legal, they hate wasting their time on it.

 

[JK/SEA]

I guess it's no conspiracy that they look for the sub-100 IQ types.

that '12' after his fake name...?...age?...dick size?....FEMA camp?....new TV show called 12?...the 12 project?...a 12 IQ seems low..but ya never know. Ricther/Richter scale?...that must be it...Richter scale... as in 12 earthquake...

 

[JK/SEA]

OK, and what does that have to do with anything I said? Also, I don't understand what the obsession here is with pot, in my town the cops don't even bother with pot, despite what many of you think most cops don't get up every day saying "I can't wait to go get me some pot heads", pretty much every cop I know would like pot to be legal, they hate wasting their time on it.

the DEA would argue that, but then they are the FED, and the FED loves to give tax money away to local towns and cities to bust little boys and girls smoking mother nature...so, you live in utopia then...cool.

 

[Carlybee]

OK, and what does that have to do with anything I said? Also, I don't understand what the obsession here is with pot, in my town the cops don't even bother with pot, despite what many of you think most cops don't get up every day saying "I can't wait to go get me some pot heads", pretty much every cop I know would like pot to be legal, they hate wasting their time on it.

What size town do you live in?

 

[invisible]

OK, and what does that have to do with anything I said? Also, I don't understand what the obsession here is with pot, in my town the cops don't even bother with pot, despite what many of you think most cops don't get up every day saying "I can't wait to go get me some pot heads", pretty much every cop I know would like pot to be legal, they hate wasting their time on it.

Of course they don't bother with it in wealthy towns, when there's plenty of victims to be had in low-income areas, that won't have that $10,000 lawyer on retainer to fight back.

Looks like we've got ourselves another 56ktarget here in the making! Welcome to operation rep burn!

 

[invisible]

that '12' after his fake name...?...age?...dick size?....FEMA camp?....new TV show called 12?...the 12 project?...a 12 IQ seems low..but ya never know. Ricther/Richter scale?...that must be it...Richter scale... as in 12 earthquake...

Adam 12? 12th sock puppet account? 12th precinct? Badge number?

 

[dannno]

OK, and what does that have to do with anything I said? Also, I don't understand what the obsession here is with pot, in my town the cops don't even bother with pot, despite what many of you think most cops don't get up every day saying "I can't wait to go get me some pot heads", pretty much every cop I know would like pot to be legal, they hate wasting their time on it.

Right, same with my town. You must live in a town with few minorities like me.

U.S. Prison Population As Of Jan. 25, 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/war-on-drugs-prisons-infographic_n_4914884.html

 

[JK/SEA]

What size town do you live in?

he has his own country.

 

[JK/SEA]

Adam 12? 12th sock puppet account? 12th precinct? Badge number?

badge number..ha..that explains his small town attitude.

 

[HankRicther12]

What size town do you live in?

Last census, 14,000.