For Bradley in DC and anyone that wants to understand the truth of the delegate proce

[Drsteveparent]

Fact checking you: No, I was never a legislator I never worked for the RP campaign, I have never said otherwise.

Well someone named RYAN from CO called rpr radio and said you were so who is lying?

I can send you the interview if you give me your email for it was a direct attempt to discredit me by usuing your name from here.

 

[JeffersonAndLiberty]

I would just like to point out that Steve's knowledge and commitment are one of the many reasons for the delegate-related successes we've had so far ... And of course the delegates themselves who took the info to heart and made it work. Much of the info is on DP, including links to Steve's radio interviews and posts.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

I would just like to point out that Steve's knowledge and commitment are one of the many reasons for the delegate-related successes we've had so far ... And of course the delegates themselves who took the info to heart and made it work. Much of the info is on DP, including links to Steve's radio interviews and posts.

I don't doubt that Steve has helped some people with the delegate process. That doesn't excuse the delusional statements for which he has been called on in this thread and his subsequent I'm right, you're wrong, refuse to answers questions, number-creating attitude.

 

[RonPaulGuyEastWA]

I don't doubt that Steve has helped some people with the delegate process. That doesn't excuse the delusional statements for which he has been called on in this thread and his subsequent I'm right, you're wrong, refuse to answers questions, number-creating attitude.

I hang out here and on the Daily Paul forums, but rarely post. Because of Steve Parents' encouragement I looked into the rules for my state and decided to become a delegate - and now I'm off to my state convention in late May and hoping to go to national. I don't care if you call him "delusional" - he has done a lot to wake people up to the power of delegates. It's unlikely that we will have enough delegates to overturn the MSM "ordained" candidate McCain, but many of us are sure going to do our best to make it happen.

Regardless of who Steve is or isn't, where he lives, his title of Dr., I don't care. The bottom line is he has awoken many to the power of being a delegate. You can nit pick him all you want, but all most of us see is negativity and defeatism. I realize the odds are small of obtaining short term victory (Paul for President), but they are not impossible. I know many supporters who are in it for the longer term as well, starting at a local level. It is possible to support both goals.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

I hang out here and on the Daily Paul forums, but rarely post. Because of Steve Parents' encouragement I looked into the rules for my state and decided to become a delegate - and now I'm off to my state convention in late May and hoping to go to national. I don't care if you call him "delusional" - he has done a lot to wake people up to the power of delegates. It's unlikely that we will have enough delegates to overturn the MSM "ordained" candidate McCain, but many of us are sure going to do our best to make it happen.

Regardless of who Steve is or isn't, where he lives, his title of Dr., I don't care. The bottom line is he has awoken many to the power of being a delegate. You can nit pick him all you want, but all most of us see is negativity and defeatism. I realize the odds are small of obtaining short term victory (Paul for President), but they are not impossible. I know many supporters who are in it for the longer term as well, starting at a local level. It is possible to support both goals.

I have never attacked Steve for encouraging people to become delegates, it's the way he goes about doing it. Every article he has wrote gives this false illusion that we are close to victory, when in fact, we never were. He's guaranteed a brokered convention, claimed, "WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES OVER ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST STATES", among others

So my point is, when should I believe Steve and when shouldn't I. He's been proven wrong many times in this thread. Why people would continue to believe him is beyond me. His behavior in this thread has been less than stellar.

Just searched "Steve Parent" on here. His first article popped up 2/6, right after Super Tuesday and long after forming any delegate organization would have helped.

 

[Sandra]

I have never attacked Steve for encouraging people to become delegates, it's the way he goes about doing it. Every article he has wrote gives this false illusion that we are close to victory, when in fact, we never were. He's guaranteed a brokered convention, claimed, "WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES OVER ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST STATES", among others

So my point is, when should I believe Steve and when shouldn't I. He's been proven wrong many times in this thread. Why people would continue to believe him is beyond me. His behavior in this thread has been less than stellar.

Just searched "Steve Parent" on here. His first article popped up 2/6, right after Super Tuesday and long after forming any delegate organization would have helped.

When did you prove him wrong? YOU DIDN"T! We in Louisiana proved him right. You are presenting a nebulous argument , while WE HAVE DONE IT. Proof through action! What do you have?

 

[RonPaulGuyEastWA]

I have never attacked Steve for encouraging people to become delegates, it's the way he goes about doing it. Every article he has wrote gives this false illusion that we are close to victory, when in fact, we never were.

I recall hearing someone saying "It's about the message." Oh yeah, that was Ron Paul. Put aside your petty criticism and appreciate the positive things. All of us have flaws and if being overly excited and optimistic is Steve's flaw, more power to him. Steve can be a little over the top for some, but for others his optimism can be very encouraging.

I understand you are not encouraged and don't believe Ron Paul can win, but you don't need to drag others down with that attitude. A movement begins by people believing in something, even if it may not seem achievable to "realists" at the time. This election cycle I finally found a man who agrees with me on most issues and I'm not going to stop supporting that man because people tell me he can't achieve victory.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

When did you prove him wrong? YOU DIDN"T! We in Louisiana proved him right. You are presenting a nebulous argument , while WE HAVE DONE IT. Proof through action! What do you have?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1389152&postcount=41

Here's he claims only two states have elected delegates. I resonded
At least 3 states that have already voted directly elected delegates at the primary. AL, TN, IL. There are more, but there's 3. Proof from the GOP
http://www.gop.com/images/Press_State_Summaries.pdf

Another, the number of bound delegates is 1821/2380, or 76.5%. Shown here on the far bottom right.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R-PU.phtml

I proved him wrong on that here
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1391253&postcount=158

It's more of him refusing to answer my questions asking him to prove his delusional statements he spouts as fact. These are littered throughout the thread. But you've asked me to show where I've proven him wrong, so I did

 

[No1ButPaul08]

All of us have flaws and if being overly excited and optimistic is Steve's flaw, more power to him. Steve can be a little over the top for some, but for others his optimism can be very encouraging.

He's not overly excited and optimistic, more like manipulating and misleading. Good for him that he's getting people involved, but he can do that while not misleading people and giving them false hope.

 

[Bradley in DC]

+1000! The Louisiana forum had to run Bradley out. He intentionally gave the most injurous advice I've ever seen. I don't believe he is who he says he is or has but what little experience he gained on this campaign. I believe wholeheartedly he was a mole.

Check out the crap he posted in the LA forums.

Sandra,

aside from highjacking this thread, what on earth are you talking about?

[EDIT: ok, it's been a few hours and you've posted several other times but not responded here, so I'll try again. What Louisiana forum "ran me out"? The subforum here? Would you like me to cross-post this question there to disprove you? Wow, you know my intentions with such certaintly. Impressive. "Injurious [note correct spelling] advice"? Examples, please. Or just one. You can believe whatever you like, but my public record is there. Mole for whom? based on what information from whom?

 

[Bradley in DC]

Well someone named RYAN from CO called rpr radio and said you were so who is lying?

I can send you the interview if you give me your email for it was a direct attempt to discredit me by usuing your name from here.

Um, so you are saying here that you just believe everything you hear from some random person on an internet radio show as Gospel truth?


We're getting to the bottom of your assurances of what you know.

 

[RonPaulGuyEastWA]

So my point is, when should I believe Steve and when shouldn't I.

From the information I've read, Steve always encourages you to review your local and state GOP by-laws/rules. You have internet access - verify how things work in your state. Surely you can't expect one person to summarize all 50 state processes and spoon feed everyone.

He's been proven wrong many times in this thread. Why people would continue to believe him is beyond me. His behavior in this thread has been less than stellar.

He is being attacked in this thread, and like most humans respond to attack, he became defensive.

Just searched "Steve Parent" on here. His first article popped up 2/6, right after Super Tuesday and long after forming any delegate organization would have helped.

I found out about Ron Paul about 1 week before my state's popular vote took place so I didn't have very long to get educated. The point is that no matter when someone became involved or first heard the message, they can still contribute to a good cause. I understand that sooner would have been better, but complaining about Steve's timing is weak.

 

[Drsteveparent]

Um, so you are saying here that you just believe everything you hear from some random person on an internet radio show as Gospel truth?


We're getting to the bottom of your assurances of what you know.

He sure believed it and went on for 20 minutes about it.

It was simple question but i take it he was lying?

 

[No1ButPaul08]

From the information I've read, Steve always encourages you to review your local and state GOP by-laws/rules. You have internet access - verify how things work in your state. Surely you can't expect one person to summarize all 50 state processes and spoon feed everyone.

Yes, but he's also guaranteed a brokered convention and said we have most of the delegates in most of the states.

.He is being attacked in this thread, and like most humans respond to attack, he became defensive..

Does that make it right? Why doesn't he try to prove his statements or admit it was delusional thinking. Instead he justs ignores it or resorts to personal attacks

I found out about Ron Paul about 1 week before my state's popular vote took place so I didn't have very long to get educated. The point is that no matter when someone became involved or first heard the message, they can still contribute to a good cause. I understand that sooner would have been better, but complaining about Steve's timing is weak.

I was only somewhat questioning the timing, the greater point was that Steve was not the great delegate influence he's made out to be. People were talking about delegates on here long before anybody here had ever heard of Steve. I was not one of those. Bradley was, as he posted in every state forum the 2004 rules asking people to update them.

 

[undergroundrr]

Dr. Paul often says that it's foolish to express absolutes in politics.

I will always trust a delusional optimist before a realist naysayer. The delusional guy is better equipped to exploit an unexpected opportunity. Even if I were 99.99% sure RP will not be the Republican nominee, like a hostage chained to a wall, with my own execution imminent, I would still hang onto that small gap of possibility.

I'm now a delegate to my state convention Even for a resolutely secular person like me, every step forward in this process seems miraculous. But it's really just persistence.

The Steven Bradbury video says it all. If you haven't watched it in a while, you owe it to yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQMJtilOGg

 

[mdh]

Milly all of you people from rpi have the same attitude and what question do you ask me?

All your lies will not distort the truth now go back to your pathetic rpi radio chat room where you are a op and enjoy your little power trip.

lol, milly isn't an op.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

Dr. Paul often says that it's foolish to express absolutes in politics.

I will always trust a delusional optimist before a realist naysayer.

Delusion > realism

I guess in reality when HillBamaCain gets elected your world will be much better when RP gets elected

 

[Sandra]

Does that make it right? Why doesn't he try to prove his statements or admit it was delusional thinking. Instead he justs ignores it or resorts to personal attacks



I was only somewhat questioning the timing, the greater point was that Steve was not the great delegate influence he's made out to be. People were talking about delegates on here long before anybody here had ever heard of Steve. I was not one of those. Bradley was, as he posted in every state forum the 2004 rules asking people to update them.

NoOneButPaul08, Your post is the most hypocrytical lying mess I've ever read. It's OK for you to do all of the above

As far as Bradley, he wasn'y trying to help, he was trying to be an expert at everything.

 

[mdh]

Bradley's done an awful lot to help - I've seen some of it with my own two eyes, in fact.

Dr Steve on the other hand has gone around making unsubstantiated claims on the internet and generally saying things that have been proven time and again to be false - and now he's on dailypaul talking about needing $6000, but begging people not to setup a chipin for him.

 

[Sandra]

Birds of a feather.