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"It is best not to antagonize these people. Usually they should just be given a wide berth and let them have their way.;)"

As hard as it is not to rise to their bait,
And as much fun as it is to poke at their inflated egos,
you should realize that they are not going to change.
They will never make a significant admission of guilt or inadequacy because, in the final analysis, it is....
ALL ABOUT THEM.

Don't forget Schizophrenia

Thank you it is appreciated
 
Whatever accuracies there are in the OP, and whatever the personal qualities of the original poster, his message is still more accurate (and infinitely more useful) than those who state (or even insinuate) that the RP nomination effort is finished.

Since it is an eponymous thread, where so you think I said the effort is finished? In fact, in this thread, I link to MY threads giving people good updated information urging everyone in upcoming states to get involved. Look at the Roll Up Your Sleeves stickie.

That tactic is another of Steve's deceptions or delusions.
 
Since it is an eponymous thread, where so you think I said the effort is finished? In fact, in this thread, I link to MY threads giving people good updated information urging everyone in upcoming states to get involved. Look at the Roll Up Your Sleeves stickie.

That tactic is another of Steve's deceptions or delusions.

Don't instruct people to look up your sweet spots, Brad. Just reading your posts in this thread is plenty to have led me to the decision to stay home tomorrow instead of attending our district convention.

I could use the sleep-in day, and what use is it to trudge on in battle after battle when the war is lost.

Thanks for letting me know that people like Steve Parent are straight jacket worthy delusionals who keep using deceptive means to give people like me false hope through misinformation.

And don't give me any last minute pep talks like "Roll up your sleeves, I wasn't talking about you, only certain little tiny things that don't pertain to you. You should attend the convention. I've always been your cheerleader."

I'd also like to say how much we in North Carolina appreciate all the hard work you and your fellow American political process debate team have done to help us in so many other ways. You know, all the donations, phone banks, canvassing, signage, literature, mailings, event planning and, well, just your cheerful and winning dispositions.

Bosso
 
Yes I was a delegate to the state GOP Convention, as was mdh. I say "was" because it already took place, which seems to be a fact largely ignored by those who want to call me a defeatest. If you would care to look up Mon County, WV, or even just the overall news regarding the state GOP Convention, there was a strong Paul showing. The idea that someone who appeared after the fact is somehow the savior of the delegate process is odd, considering many of us have been saying to get involved --- and actually going around helping people sign up and get educated in person --- for many months.

The rules in our state changed very last-minute. I cringe to think what would have happened in our county if we'd been sitting around on a forum or waiting for a meetup group to inform us that we had to register to vote online for delegates or risk missing a one-day vote for delegates to the state Convention. Instead, this large, voter-rich county was *decidedly* for Ron Paul.

It's unknown what will happen as far as potentially being an RNC delegate at this point. There is still some voting to occur in May for which we are continuing the on-the-ground effort in our state. I couldn't imagine for a moment pretending to hand out numbers on a national scale right now, when there is so much to be done locally! There are Paul-friendly candidates to prep and get into the public eye, there are people who still need to hear the message, and there is the rising tide of the MSM saying "Paul has dropped out" to do battle against. On top of that, there are those out there who will spread numbers and assertions without any real backing, and that does tick me off.

We're individuals, and frankly the background of each individual isn't what is at stake for me. It's what they're saying. Is it accurate? I will say again: telling people to get educated is awesome, but when you follow it up with *numbers* and alleged *facts*, you are putting yourself out there as an expert... an educator. Please have the forethought to proofread those facts, and the decency to retract those which are incorrect. Gracefully.

As for the "personal" attacks, some of them are out of the blue, some of them are based on things that have been said by the poster themselves. Dr. Steve if you are not schizophrenic then please be aware there is someone parading around on IRC with your same IP address stating that he prescribed himself Thorazine. If it was you joking around, that would be a much easier way to resolve this than to simply act as if the people saying it were just pulling the information out of their butts. If you are schizophrenic I fail to see how that's an insult, personally, despite how people are characterizing it. I'm bipolar. Nice to meet you. I'm sure a jab from someone will soon follow!

Everyone gets a clean slate from me every time I see something from them, believe it or not. That's why when I saw your post regarding the phone bill I did endeavor to help, and even brushed off your first response where you told me I do nothing to help anyone. I hope that in the future you look into the variety of options available on all fronts, and that it can save you money and streamline your message.

Anyhow, to recap: yes, mdh and I *were delegates* at our Convention which *passed* and produced an official 18 bound delegates to Huckabee (but unofficially 15 bound for Huckabee and 3 appointed Paul-supporters). The hard work on mdh's part prior to that produced enough delegates to that state convention that we were courted as leverage. Huckabee could not have won without us, whatever you think of that. Paul's voice was heard, and he had an impact on the first decision of Super Tuesday.

*That* is what I've been a part of.
 
At the risk of beating a dead horse.

Bradley you and the few of you are a real piece of work.

Now i am a liar?

How many meetups have you called and educated on rules of order?

How many bylaws have you read to address each state?

How many people have you spoken to personally?

I have spoken to thousands and if you look at the states that have dominated at thier conventions you ask them who they received their adice from and i assure you it was not you or anyone else here posting negative comments about me.

As far as my medical background and license or license number is none of your business or anyone elses ana has no bearing on what i have done or is willing to continue to do.

You people can try to cut me down all you want i really do not care.

You can post online all you want it does not change what i have accomplished with the delegates and the education i have given them that have won major victories in many states and will continue to win victories in many other remaining states.

How many of you dividers are delegates?

You dividers will never convince anyone that you have done anything more than blog here or motivated anyone on anything that has made a difference.

And your glorified massage therapist can critisize me all he wishes for it will change nothing.

I will be on www.rprradio.com Tuesday 4pm central time call in and debate me and then we will see the truth and if you do not show to debate me well that will speak for itself.

I will gladly yield to the gentleman for an open debate.

First, another great post Melissa!

I have both personal and professional reasons to be sympathetic to anyone who does, in fact, have a mental illness. I also do not believe that anyone should be judged on these forums based on anything other than the quality of their written contributions. I don't care how old someone is, their gender, race, occupation, education, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, etc.
This is not political correctness. (I happen to hate that whole PC, "Newspeak", "thought police" thing!) I simply respect human beings to much to discount what they say based on same lame prejudice.


Which leads me to my main point.

I don't care what kind or even if Dr. Steve is a "real" doctor. At least from the stand point of respecting his ideas and recognizing his contributions to the movement.

I obviously don't place too much stock on credentials, or I would not have waited until my 200th post to mention that fact that I am a doctor.

When I made my original post about narcissistic personality disorder, I intentionally did a cut and paste so people would not have to rely on unverified credentials or a degree. I honestly did not think too much about the fact that I was "outing" myself as a physician. In retrospect I can see how naive I was to think that this was not going to be a "big deal". I can see now how much stock these "Dr. Steveites" place on his professional status. I guess in their minds being a doctor gave him some type of special status within the movement; a link to Dr. Paul that transcended the average supporter. I can honestly say that it never occurred to me that people like "Sandra" would question my professional status. Again, I can see now that I was inadvertently encroaching onto the sacred (and to that point, unique) territory of her guru.

Now to the man.
I won't claim any special love for Dr. Steve. Since I first saw his posts on Daily Paul I will admit that I was more than a little put off by his "IF YOU CARE ANYTHING ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE FATE OF OUR REPUBLIC YOU WILL KEEP THIS BUMPED EVERY DAY AND IF YOU DON'T YOU ARE ALL SCUM THAT DESERVE TO LIVE IN CHAINS" hyperbolic style. I didn't mind so much that he called himself "Doctor" Steve. I guess I assumed that he had a PhD in Early Aztec Basket Weaving and was one of those guys that got off on being called "Doctor". And I don't think any less of someone if they don't happen to feel like me that it kind of goes against the egalitarian atmosphere of this movement.

Within the last couple of days, I will admit he got me ticked off when he and his sycophantic groupies on DailPaul accused me of fabricating an email from a national campaign staff member advising RP delegates that they probably should not expect to be able to vote for Ron Paul at the RNC.

Wowee, talk about shooting the messenger. Within minutes I was called everything from a troll to a CFR infiltrator to a liar. I reposted adding even more chunks of the email, explaining meticulously and as clearly as possible that I WAS NOT ENDORSING OR CONDONING THE VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THE EMAIL but that I thought it was worth knowing what some within the campaign were advising.

That made them even madder.
I was a liar. I made the whole thing up.

I had my wife come on to confirm that she had in fact received the email.
Either they ignored her or thought she was a CFR plant (I honestly don't know what is going on inside that gelatinous mass they use for brains.)
But at least I could count on the good doctor to add a note of dignity, right?:rolleyes:

He came on and without commenting at all on the changes, clarifications, replies, and added comments by my wife asked, "Why hasn't this post been flagged?"

"Sorry, Your Highness. We'll get on it right away! We won't let it happen again!", said his lapdog fanboys, as they scurried to do his bidding.

I offered to forward the email in question to Steve if he would promise me not to divulge the author's name or post excerpts out of context.
Nada. No rebuttal. No acknowledgment. No apology and no retraction.

No, Steve is strictly a hit and run kind of guy.

So now that he has thoroughly befouled the atmosphere over at DailyPaul, Steve announces grandly (everything he does is always done in dramatic fashion) that he is going to come over to the RonPaul Forums to root out the infidels and could he have some of his groupies come with him? (They almost always travel in packs, safer that way.)

And this thread was the result.

And still I would have given him some benefit of the doubt. That maybe he has actually helped some of the people that he says he has helped. And maybe some of the people that think he has helped them, actually aren't deluded or suffering from intellectual Stockholm Syndrome.

And then he gave THIS quote above.

When I first read his smear about the "glorified massage therapist" I was actually amused. I am used to some lay people confusing DO's (Doctor of Osteopathy) with chiropractors or whatever simply because in addition to all of the courses that any MD medical student has to take the Osteopathic medical student also must learn manipulative therapy. True, in the early 20th century there was a sometimes not all that friendly rivalry between the two schools of medicine. But by the time I entered medical school that was all ancient history. Today's DO's and MD's share residency programs and populate every specialty from Pediatrics to Neurosurgery and sometimes work with a doctor for a years before they realize which one he is.

All doctors know this. Patients may not, especially if they come from some areas of the country where DO's aren't as numerous. But ALL doctors know this.
So it never occurred to me that Steve was anything but a PhD taking a cheap shot out of ignorance.

That's when I made this response:

" BTW, Dr. Steve, if you happen to be driving through southwest Iowa in a couple of weeks be very careful not to get in a car accident.
I hear that the local hospital is going to have a "glorified massage therapist" staffing their emergency room! :eek:
I hear they even have him supervising all three of the Physician Assistants who cover the emergency room full time.
But what would you expect from a hospital that would let that same "glorified massage therapist" be their Chief of Staff last year?
And while he isn't a psychiatrist (and does NOT claim to be one) he was the medical director for the geriatric psychiatry unit for a couple of years.

And if you are interested, he does know some excellent psychiatrists.

(Personally, I just think you need to cut down on your caffeine.;))"


More out of amusement than anger.
A little sarcastic? Sure. A little condescending? Guilty.
But you can see why I might have been a little fed up with this self-righteous stuffed shirt.

But then I stumbled back across his note and noticed for the first time his claim to be a physician --

As far as my medical background and license or license number is none of your business or anyone elses ana has no bearing on what i have done or is willing to continue to do.

Wait a minute, I had been cutting him some slack because I thought he was just ignorant. Spiteful, self-promoting, conceited, deluded, and petty, sure, but not malevolent.

But now all of a sudden my view of "Doctor" Steve made a paradigm shift. He was claiming to be a medical doctor. All of this grandstanding and posturing was coming from an MD, not some PhD with an inferiority complex?!? All of this childish, unprofessional behavior from a colleague?

Now he no longer had an excuse. I have practiced medicine and trained in states from Nevada to Pennsylvania; Iowa to Virginia. I have worked with DO's and MD's trained everywhere from Botswana to the Mayo Clinic; but I have never, NEVER met a doctor who would debase himself to call a DO colleague a "glorified massage therapist". I know you may not understand this but, this just isn't done. Not on our worst days. Not even in gest. And Steve was most certainly NOT joking. He wasn't calling me a liar this time, he was insulting my profession (actually OUR profession) and taking advantage of YOUR ignorance to take a cheap shot at someone he KNEW really WAS a doctor.

Now all the misspelled, ungrammatical, disjointed posts were more sinister. This is a guy that will stop at nothing, will stoop to anything to win his point. I know now that whatever else he is, he is not the dedicated servant to this movement that he claims to be. I don't care how many hours he spends talking to delegates or how many phone bills he racks up; Steve Parent cares about only one thing -- Steve Parent.

I don't know, nor do I care if he is a doctor or not. Either he is a bold-faced liar, or a professional who has lost any semblance of ethical or professional dignity.

I now know that I have only heard him say one thing that is absolutely true,
"
i really do not care.
"

How true. How true.
 
First, another great post Melissa!

I have both personal and professional reasons to be sympathetic to anyone who does, in fact, have a mental illness. I also do not believe that anyone should be judged on these forums based on anything other than the quality of their written contributions. I don't care how old someone is, their gender, race, occupation, education, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, etc.
This is not political correctness. (I happen to hate that whole PC, "Newspeak", "thought police" thing!) I simply respect human beings to much to discount what they say based on same lame prejudice.


Which leads me to my main point.

I don't care what kind or even if Dr. Steve is a "real" doctor. At least from the stand point of respecting his ideas and recognizing his contributions to the movement.

I obviously don't place too much stock on credentials, or I would not have waited until my 200th post to mention that fact that I am a doctor.

When I made my original post about narcissistic personality disorder, I intentionally did a cut and paste so people would not have to rely on unverified credentials or a degree. I honestly did not think too much about the fact that I was "outing" myself as a physician. In retrospect I can see how naive I was to think that this was not going to be a "big deal". I can see now how much stock these "Dr. Steveites" place on his professional status. I guess in their minds being a doctor gave him some type of special status within the movement; a link to Dr. Paul that transcended the average supporter. I can honestly say that it never occurred to me that people like "Sandra" would question my professional status. Again, I can see now that I was inadvertently encroaching onto the sacred (and to that point, unique) territory of her guru.

Now to the man.
I won't claim any special love for Dr. Steve. Since I first saw his posts on Daily Paul I will admit that I was more than a little put off by his "IF YOU CARE ANYTHING ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE FATE OF OUR REPUBLIC YOU WILL KEEP THIS BUMPED EVERY DAY AND IF YOU DON'T YOU ARE ALL SCUM THAT DESERVE TO LIVE IN CHAINS" hyperbolic style. I didn't mind so much that he called himself "Doctor" Steve. I guess I assumed that he had a PhD in Early Aztec Basket Weaving and was one of those guys that got off on being called "Doctor". And I don't think any less of someone if they don't happen to feel like me that it kind of goes against the egalitarian atmosphere of this movement.

Within the last couple of days, I will admit he got me ticked off when he and his sycophantic groupies on DailPaul accused me of fabricating an email from a national campaign staff member advising RP delegates that they probably should not expect to be able to vote for Ron Paul at the RNC.

Wowee, talk about shooting the messenger. Within minutes I was called everything from a troll to a CFR infiltrator to a liar. I reposted adding even more chunks of the email, explaining meticulously and as clearly as possible that I WAS NOT ENDORSING OR CONDONING THE VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THE EMAIL but that I thought it was worth knowing what some within the campaign were advising.

That made them even madder.
I was a liar. I made the whole thing up.

I had my wife come on to confirm that she had in fact received the email.
Either they ignored her or thought she was a CFR plant (I honestly don't know what is going on inside that gelatinous mass they use for brains.)
But at least I could count on the good doctor to add a note of dignity, right?:rolleyes:

He came on and without commenting at all on the changes, clarifications, replies, and added comments by my wife asked, "Why hasn't this post been flagged?"

"Sorry, Your Highness. We'll get on it right away! We won't let it happen again!", said his lapdog fanboys, as they scurried to do his bidding.

I offered to forward the email in question to Steve if he would promise me not to divulge the author's name or post excerpts out of context.
Nada. No rebuttal. No acknowledgment. No apology and no retraction.

No, Steve is strictly a hit and run kind of guy.

So now that he has thoroughly befouled the atmosphere over at DailyPaul, Steve announces grandly (everything he does is always done in dramatic fashion) that he is going to come over to the RonPaul Forums to root out the infidels and could he have some of his groupies come with him? (They almost always travel in packs, safer that way.)

And this thread was the result.

And still I would have given him some benefit of the doubt. That maybe he has actually helped some of the people that he says he has helped. And maybe some of the people that think he has helped them, actually aren't deluded or suffering from intellectual Stockholm Syndrome.

And then he gave THIS quote above.

When I first read his smear about the "glorified massage therapist" I was actually amused. I am used to some lay people confusing DO's (Doctor of Osteopathy) with chiropractors or whatever simply because in addition to all of the courses that any MD medical student has to take the Osteopathic medical student also must learn manipulative therapy. True, in the early 20th century there was a sometimes not all that friendly rivalry between the two schools of medicine. But by the time I entered medical school that was all ancient history. Today's DO's and MD's share residency programs and populate every specialty from Pediatrics to Neurosurgery and sometimes work with a doctor for a years before they realize which one he is.

All doctors know this. Patients may not, especially if they come from some areas of the country where DO's aren't as numerous. But ALL doctors know this.
So it never occurred to me that Steve was anything but a PhD taking a cheap shot out of ignorance.

That's when I made this response:

" BTW, Dr. Steve, if you happen to be driving through southwest Iowa in a couple of weeks be very careful not to get in a car accident.
I hear that the local hospital is going to have a "glorified massage therapist" staffing their emergency room! :eek:
I hear they even have him supervising all three of the Physician Assistants who cover the emergency room full time.
But what would you expect from a hospital that would let that same "glorified massage therapist" be their Chief of Staff last year?
And while he isn't a psychiatrist (and does NOT claim to be one) he was the medical director for the geriatric psychiatry unit for a couple of years.

And if you are interested, he does know some excellent psychiatrists.

(Personally, I just think you need to cut down on your caffeine.;))"


More out of amusement than anger.
A little sarcastic? Sure. A little condescending? Guilty.
But you can see why I might have been a little fed up with this self-righteous stuffed shirt.

But then I stumbled back across his note and noticed for the first time his claim to be a physician --

As far as my medical background and license or license number is none of your business or anyone elses ana has no bearing on what i have done or is willing to continue to do.

Wait a minute, I had been cutting him some slack because I thought he was just ignorant. Spiteful, self-promoting, conceited, deluded, and petty, sure, but not malevolent.

But now all of a sudden my view of "Doctor" Steve made a paradigm shift. He was claiming to be a medical doctor. All of this grandstanding and posturing was coming from an MD, not some PhD with an inferiority complex?!? All of this childish, unprofessional behavior from a colleague?

Now he no longer had an excuse. I have practiced medicine and trained in states from Nevada to Pennsylvania; Iowa to Virginia. I have worked with DO's and MD's trained everywhere from Botswana to the Mayo Clinic; but I have never, NEVER met a doctor who would debase himself to call a DO colleague a "glorified massage therapist". I know you may not understand this but, this just isn't done. Not on our worst days. Not even in gest. And Steve was most certainly NOT joking. He wasn't calling me a liar this time, he was insulting my profession (actually OUR profession) and taking advantage of YOUR ignorance to take a cheap shot at someone he KNEW really WAS a doctor.

Now all the misspelled, ungrammatical, disjointed posts were more sinister. This is a guy that will stop at nothing, will stoop to anything to win his point. I know now that whatever else he is, he is not the dedicated servant to this movement that he claims to be. I don't care how many hours he spends talking to delegates or how many phone bills he racks up; Steve Parent cares about only one thing -- Steve Parent.

I don't know, nor do I care if he is a doctor or not. Either he is a bold-faced liar, or a professional who has lost any semblance of ethical or professional dignity.

I now know that I have only heard him say one thing that is absolutely true,
"
i really do not care.
"

How true. How true.

Great Post
 
Spacehabitat, I am convinced your post as a "doctor" is as fake as hell. I also think you came here to be a nemesis to Drsteveparent by adoptng an equal yet opposite personna. Couldn't you have chosen a cop or fireman instead? Your first post on this thread and the other threads you started serve as a self diagnosis.

You are truly your own patient.
 
First, another great post Melissa!

I have both personal and professional reasons to be sympathetic to anyone who does, in fact, have a mental illness. I also do not believe that anyone should be judged on these forums based on anything other than the quality of their written contributions. I don't care how old someone is, their gender, race, occupation, education, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, etc.
This is not political correctness. (I happen to hate that whole PC, "Newspeak", "thought police" thing!) I simply respect human beings to much to discount what they say based on same lame prejudice.


Which leads me to my main point.

I don't care what kind or even if Dr. Steve is a "real" doctor. At least from the stand point of respecting his ideas and recognizing his contributions to the movement.

I obviously don't place too much stock on credentials, or I would not have waited until my 200th post to mention that fact that I am a doctor.

When I made my original post about narcissistic personality disorder, I intentionally did a cut and paste so people would not have to rely on unverified credentials or a degree. I honestly did not think too much about the fact that I was "outing" myself as a physician. In retrospect I can see how naive I was to think that this was not going to be a "big deal". I can see now how much stock these "Dr. Steveites" place on his professional status. I guess in their minds being a doctor gave him some type of special status within the movement; a link to Dr. Paul that transcended the average supporter. I can honestly say that it never occurred to me that people like "Sandra" would question my professional status. Again, I can see now that I was inadvertently encroaching onto the sacred (and to that point, unique) territory of her guru.

Now to the man.
I won't claim any special love for Dr. Steve. Since I first saw his posts on Daily Paul I will admit that I was more than a little put off by his "IF YOU CARE ANYTHING ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE FATE OF OUR REPUBLIC YOU WILL KEEP THIS BUMPED EVERY DAY AND IF YOU DON'T YOU ARE ALL SCUM THAT DESERVE TO LIVE IN CHAINS" hyperbolic style. I didn't mind so much that he called himself "Doctor" Steve. I guess I assumed that he had a PhD in Early Aztec Basket Weaving and was one of those guys that got off on being called "Doctor". And I don't think any less of someone if they don't happen to feel like me that it kind of goes against the egalitarian atmosphere of this movement.

Within the last couple of days, I will admit he got me ticked off when he and his sycophantic groupies on DailPaul accused me of fabricating an email from a national campaign staff member advising RP delegates that they probably should not expect to be able to vote for Ron Paul at the RNC.

Wowee, talk about shooting the messenger. Within minutes I was called everything from a troll to a CFR infiltrator to a liar. I reposted adding even more chunks of the email, explaining meticulously and as clearly as possible that I WAS NOT ENDORSING OR CONDONING THE VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THE EMAIL but that I thought it was worth knowing what some within the campaign were advising.

That made them even madder.
I was a liar. I made the whole thing up.

I had my wife come on to confirm that she had in fact received the email.
Either they ignored her or thought she was a CFR plant (I honestly don't know what is going on inside that gelatinous mass they use for brains.)
But at least I could count on the good doctor to add a note of dignity, right?:rolleyes:

He came on and without commenting at all on the changes, clarifications, replies, and added comments by my wife asked, "Why hasn't this post been flagged?"

"Sorry, Your Highness. We'll get on it right away! We won't let it happen again!", said his lapdog fanboys, as they scurried to do his bidding.

I offered to forward the email in question to Steve if he would promise me not to divulge the author's name or post excerpts out of context.
Nada. No rebuttal. No acknowledgment. No apology and no retraction.

No, Steve is strictly a hit and run kind of guy.

So now that he has thoroughly befouled the atmosphere over at DailyPaul, Steve announces grandly (everything he does is always done in dramatic fashion) that he is going to come over to the RonPaul Forums to root out the infidels and could he have some of his groupies come with him? (They almost always travel in packs, safer that way.)

And this thread was the result.

And still I would have given him some benefit of the doubt. That maybe he has actually helped some of the people that he says he has helped. And maybe some of the people that think he has helped them, actually aren't deluded or suffering from intellectual Stockholm Syndrome.

And then he gave THIS quote above.

When I first read his smear about the "glorified massage therapist" I was actually amused. I am used to some lay people confusing DO's (Doctor of Osteopathy) with chiropractors or whatever simply because in addition to all of the courses that any MD medical student has to take the Osteopathic medical student also must learn manipulative therapy. True, in the early 20th century there was a sometimes not all that friendly rivalry between the two schools of medicine. But by the time I entered medical school that was all ancient history. Today's DO's and MD's share residency programs and populate every specialty from Pediatrics to Neurosurgery and sometimes work with a doctor for a years before they realize which one he is.

All doctors know this. Patients may not, especially if they come from some areas of the country where DO's aren't as numerous. But ALL doctors know this.
So it never occurred to me that Steve was anything but a PhD taking a cheap shot out of ignorance.

That's when I made this response:

" BTW, Dr. Steve, if you happen to be driving through southwest Iowa in a couple of weeks be very careful not to get in a car accident.
I hear that the local hospital is going to have a "glorified massage therapist" staffing their emergency room! :eek:
I hear they even have him supervising all three of the Physician Assistants who cover the emergency room full time.
But what would you expect from a hospital that would let that same "glorified massage therapist" be their Chief of Staff last year?
And while he isn't a psychiatrist (and does NOT claim to be one) he was the medical director for the geriatric psychiatry unit for a couple of years.

And if you are interested, he does know some excellent psychiatrists.

(Personally, I just think you need to cut down on your caffeine.;))"


More out of amusement than anger.
A little sarcastic? Sure. A little condescending? Guilty.
But you can see why I might have been a little fed up with this self-righteous stuffed shirt.

But then I stumbled back across his note and noticed for the first time his claim to be a physician --

As far as my medical background and license or license number is none of your business or anyone elses ana has no bearing on what i have done or is willing to continue to do.

Wait a minute, I had been cutting him some slack because I thought he was just ignorant. Spiteful, self-promoting, conceited, deluded, and petty, sure, but not malevolent.

But now all of a sudden my view of "Doctor" Steve made a paradigm shift. He was claiming to be a medical doctor. All of this grandstanding and posturing was coming from an MD, not some PhD with an inferiority complex?!? All of this childish, unprofessional behavior from a colleague?

Now he no longer had an excuse. I have practiced medicine and trained in states from Nevada to Pennsylvania; Iowa to Virginia. I have worked with DO's and MD's trained everywhere from Botswana to the Mayo Clinic; but I have never, NEVER met a doctor who would debase himself to call a DO colleague a "glorified massage therapist". I know you may not understand this but, this just isn't done. Not on our worst days. Not even in gest. And Steve was most certainly NOT joking. He wasn't calling me a liar this time, he was insulting my profession (actually OUR profession) and taking advantage of YOUR ignorance to take a cheap shot at someone he KNEW really WAS a doctor.

Now all the misspelled, ungrammatical, disjointed posts were more sinister. This is a guy that will stop at nothing, will stoop to anything to win his point. I know now that whatever else he is, he is not the dedicated servant to this movement that he claims to be. I don't care how many hours he spends talking to delegates or how many phone bills he racks up; Steve Parent cares about only one thing -- Steve Parent.

I don't know, nor do I care if he is a doctor or not. Either he is a bold-faced liar, or a professional who has lost any semblance of ethical or professional dignity.

I now know that I have only heard him say one thing that is absolutely true,
"
i really do not care.
"

How true. How true.

Excuse me Doctor but here is why i took a cheap shot at you for it was to return the favor and you accomplished your goal which was to illicit a prescribed response which succeeded however you decided to question my mental state of mind not knowing who i was or what i have done for this movement or my profession by stating and i know that comment was aimed at me to claim i was a narcissistic Disorder.

You claim this never happens in our profession and you are some what correct doctor however the correct statement would be is rarely happens for it does in fact happen although you did attempt to take a cheap shot at me and i only returned the favor.

I have no desire to argue here for it is a waste of time for if people are going to make claims it is over and Ron Paul will not be president or why am i wasting peoples time it is worthless to change the minds of such people so i simply claim to them just get out of our way instead of trying to discouraging people to quit.

In September after the convention doctor i will surely disclose as to my medical background is for all to see and until September only a select few know although many meetup heads know what my medical professional background is.

As to your email request for me to answer you i have not seen it and i would entertain any email you send to me.

I will use my title

Dr. Steve Parent
 
I have no desire to argue here for it is a waste of time for if people are going to make claims it is over and Ron Paul will not be president or why am i wasting peoples time it is worthless to change the minds of such people so i simply claim to them just get out of our way instead of trying to discouraging people to quit.

I'm not the best writer, but do doctors what a run-on sentence is
 
Excuse me Doctor but here is why i took a cheap shot at you for it was to return the favor and you accomplished your goal which was to illicit a prescribed response which succeeded however you decided to question my mental state of mind not knowing who i was or what i have done for this movement or my profession by stating and i know that comment was aimed at me to claim i was a narcissistic Disorder.

You claim this never happens in our profession and you are some what correct doctor however the correct statement would be is rarely happens for it does in fact happen although you did attempt to take a cheap shot at me and i only returned the favor.

I have no desire to argue here for it is a waste of time for if people are going to make claims it is over and Ron Paul will not be president or why am i wasting peoples time it is worthless to change the minds of such people so i simply claim to them just get out of our way instead of trying to discouraging people to quit.

In September after the convention doctor i will surely disclose as to my medical background is for all to see and until September only a select few know although many meetup heads know what my medical professional background is.

As to your email request for me to answer you i have not seen it and i would entertain any email you send to me.

I will use my title

Dr. Steve Parent

i read this and i think, "this guy can't be for real."

are you a native english speaker? not that being *or not being* has any bearing
on your intellectual capacity or mental state, i'm just wondering.

one sentence:

Excuse me Doctor but here is why i took a cheap shot at you for it was to return the favor and you accomplished your goal which was to illicit a prescribed response which succeeded however you decided to question my mental state of mind not knowing who i was or what i have done for this movement or my profession by stating and i know that comment was aimed at me to claim i was a narcissistic Disorder.

....

"to claim i was a narcissistic Disorder."

...


what i find particularly bothersome (perhaps even disappointing) is the use of "doctor" over and over again, as if you were wagging your finger or something.
 
Sandra, explain to me, once again, what is wrong with wanting correct information put out?

I don't understand your opposition to have a factual base for one's comments.
 
Okay I have to run out and get some dinner, but I think it's getting close to time to just lock this thread up and kill it.

I think we've breached the baseline and are entering anti-productivity.

I'm close to getting a bruise mark on my forehead for how many times I've slapped it reading some of the absurd stuff, and I feel it has no bearing anymore on the Grassroots movement.
 
Okay I have to run out and get some dinner, but I think it's getting close to time to just lock this thread up and kill it.

I think we've breached the baseline and are entering anti-productivity.

I'm close to getting a bruise mark on my forehead for how many times I've slapped it reading some of the absurd stuff, and I feel it has no bearing anymore on the Grassroots movement.

Sounds fair.

I apologize to anyone I may have offended with any of my comments, but I assure you that my intentions were only to have the correct information available to anyone interested in becoming a delegate.
 
Sure Sandra

Spacehabitat, I am convinced your post as a "doctor" is as fake as hell. I also think you came here to be a nemesis to Drsteveparent by adoptng an equal yet opposite personna. Couldn't you have chosen a cop or fireman instead? Your first post on this thread and the other threads you started serve as a self diagnosis.

You are truly your own patient.

This is all an elaborate hoax to trash your idol. I lifted the license
Do you really want to know if I am a doctor, or would it shatter your world view?
I could give you the link to my hospital's website, but I hate my picture. And you would have to find some way to restore you mental equilibrium.
I would hate to be the one who made you turn to drugs or alcohol.;)

Personally, I was happier when I believed that Dr. Steve was "just" a self-promoting jerk. Now I have to face the fact that there are a significant number of well-meaning people (like you?) that are following a conscienceless impostor on his path to divide and conquer this movement.

Sorry, but it is true.
 
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