For Bradley in DC and anyone that wants to understand the truth of the delegate proce

[greywolf]

Bradley, thanks for the welcome. Mr. Drummond, I too look forward to meeting at the National Convention. I am glad to see the youth getting involved in political affairs of our country. I am getting old enough (hence the name 'Greywolf') to realized that bickering will not get anyone anywhere. Again, I re-iterate, it is for each of us to research the facts and find out for ourselves how it affects us as delegates and as Citizens of the United States of America. Everyone is bringing out good facts and discussions and I think we all have a common goal...FREEDOM!!!

 

[Bradley in DC]

Bradley, thanks for the welcome. Mr. Drummond, I too look forward to meeting at the National Convention. I am glad to see the youth getting involved in political affairs of our country. I am getting old enough (hence the name 'Greywolf') to realized that bickering will not get anyone anywhere. Again, I re-iterate, it is for each of us to research the facts and find out for ourselves how it affects us as delegates and as Citizens of the United States of America. Everyone is bringing out good facts and discussions and I think we all have a common goal...FREEDOM!!!

Hi Greywolf,

I may be catching up with you on that score!

Please take a moment to look around the forum. You'll find that in the state subfora many of us have been working together to contribute to the best most up-to-date state-specific information we can.

Of course, we welcome everyone else--including Steve--to join our efforts!

 

[Lord Xar]

I am noticing alot of mail coming to me, as a delegate, in hopes of me voting"mccain". Why am I asked and being somewhat "courted" as a delegate for McCain for a vote. I live in Los Angeles and since my distrcit didn't win for Ron Paul, my delegate status is moot. YET, why am I being sent things as delegate with some nods to "vote for Mccain". Is this just "junk/spam mail" that I am getting from the RNC and such?

 

[greywolf]

Mail / Spam message

Xar, it would be interesting to see the headers on those email messages and find the source of the mail.

 

[Drsteveparent]

Bradley you and the few of you are a real piece of work.

Now i am a liar?

How many meetups have you called and educated on rules of order?

How many bylaws have you read to address each state?

How many people have you spoken to personally?

I have spoken to thousands and if you look at the states that have dominated at thier conventions you ask them who they received their adice from and i assure you it was not you or anyone else here posting negative comments about me.

As far as my medical background and license or license number is none of your business or anyone elses ana has no bearing on what i have done or is willing to continue to do.

You people can try to cut me down all you want i really do not care.

You can post online all you want it does not change what i have accomplished with the delegates and the education i have given them that have won major victories in many states and will continue to win victories in many other remaining states.

How many of you dividers are delegates?

You dividers will never convince anyone that you have done anything more than blog here or motivated anyone on anything that has made a difference.

And your glorified massage therapist can critisize me all he wishes for it will change nothing.

I will be on www.rprradio.com Tuesday 4pm central time call in and debate me and then we will see the truth and if you do not show to debate me well that will speak for itself.

I will gladly yield to the gentleman for an open debate.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I am noticing alot of mail coming to me, as a delegate, in hopes of me voting"mccain". Why am I asked and being somewhat "courted" as a delegate for McCain for a vote. I live in Los Angeles and since my distrcit didn't win for Ron Paul, my delegate status is moot. YET, why am I being sent things as delegate with some nods to "vote for Mccain". Is this just "junk/spam mail" that I am getting from the RNC and such?

Are you sure they're courting you as a delegate? I'm getting non-stop McCain spam from the RNC.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Bradley you and the few of you are a real piece of work.

Now i am a liar?

Steve,

In the OP you say I said things I never said:

Hello Bradley, ...

Dr. Paul only needs the actual people that are elected to be the majority of delegates in ANY 5 states to be placed on the ballot at the RNC in September and he DOES NOT have to win 5 state primary votes to obtain the delegates.​

But in fact I have never said any such thing. In this thread I pointed out my discussion of the issue here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=104384

Lie
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression​

I have nothing confused. You are lying now since you know what you say is factually wrong, an untrue statment with the intent to deceive, since I have explained it here in this thread and here you are obviously reading that what you say is wrong.

I have asked you to correct your misstatements both here when you lie about what I say and on Daily Paul and your other posts where you deceive others with false information about the delegate process:

Steve: The only way this matters is if one person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to a candidate.
Bradley: Now, as we've discussed here, this statement is factually inaccurate. Either delusional or a lie. Period. A candidate can get the nomination on the first vote and avoid a brokered convention with the votes of BOUND AND UNBOUND delegates.​

You know it is not true even while you deny saying it:

Bradley: Would you please clarify (again) that McCain (or anyone else!) can get the nomination from the majority of votes of bound AND unbound delegates at the national nominating convention (at the first or subsequent votes)?

Steve : I have never denied that for of course it is possible which is why i have said many times if we do not get our number of delegates registered and elected we will have no shot at winning at all and i have never tried to hide the fact that we could lose and this would be a battle to win either way.​

So yes, liar or delusional, but I'd defer to a real medical doctor...

Bragging about how many you mislead is less impressive than unfounded professional claims.

I will be on www.rprradio.com Tuesday 4pm central time call in and debate me and then we will see the truth and if you do not show to debate me well that will speak for itself.

I have a previous engagement with McKinley for Congress and the Granny Warriors rally on the Mall. The truth is that I'm working to promote the rEVOLution in positive ways. Your record here speaks for itself.

 

[Drsteveparent]

Steve,

In the OP you say I said things I never said:

Hello Bradley, ...

Dr. Paul only needs the actual people that are elected to be the majority of delegates in ANY 5 states to be placed on the ballot at the RNC in September and he DOES NOT have to win 5 state primary votes to obtain the delegates.​

But in fact I have never said any such thing. In this thread I pointed out my discussion of the issue here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=104384

Lie
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression​

I have nothing confused. You are lying now since you know what you say is factually wrong, an untrue statment with the intent to deceive, since I have explained it here in this thread you are obviously reading that what you say is wrong.

I have asked you to correct your misstatements both here when you lie about what I say and on Daily Paul and your other posts where you deceive others with false information about the delegate process.

Bragging about how many you mislead is less impressive than unfounded professional claims.




I have a previous engagement with McKinley for Congress and the Granny Warriors rally on the Mall. The truth is that I'm working to promote the rEVOLution in positive ways. Your record here speaks for itself.

Actually Bradley why don't you call the show on tuesday and explain where i lied please and also explain where i have given misinformation to many states where they have dominated their convention and explain that for all of us please?

As i said ask the meetup groups and heads who they received their information from.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

How many meetups have you called and educated on rules of order?

Zero, I'm not really educated on the topic. I didn't see where anyone criticized you for this.

How many bylaws have you read to address each state?

15-20

How many people have you spoken to personally?

Not many, but I did help some people in NE
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=118868

You can post online all you want it does not change what i have accomplished with the delegates and the education i have given them that have won major victories in many states and will continue to win victories in many other remaining states.

Again, nobody is mad that you are trying to educate potenial delegates. It the delusional statements that you've made and your attitude.

How many of you dividers are delegates?

Bradley was and Alex is too young. I'm not sure but I'm going to guess MDH and MelissaWV were too. I was, but my county election board determined i wasn't, "a Republican in good standing," so they threw my candidacy out. I could have appealed, but for numerous reasons ($ for lawyer (not sure if i needed one, but i'm rather clueless on these matters, almost 0% chance of victory, and others), chose not to.

And your glorified massage therapist can critisize me all he wishes for it will change nothing.

I'm going to assume you're talking about spacehab, but I didn't see him criticize you. He just informed us of a medical condtion, that's all.

I will be on www.rprradio.com Tuesday 4pm central time call in and debate me and then we will see the truth and if you do not show to debate me well that will speak for itself.

I'll probably be able to join, but since I'm "ignorant," you will probably block my call or have me cut off in short order

 

[Bradley in DC]

Actually Bradley why don't you call the show on tuesday and explain where i lied please and also explain where i have given misinformation to many states where they have dominated their convention and explain that for all of us please?

As i said ask the meetup groups and heads who they received their information from.

Steve, can't you read what you quote? I made my own plans before your silly challenge.

Please feel free to address the factual discussion here for all to see--especially the ones you invited.

 

[cjhowe]

Again, I ask: How many of you are still delegates or eligible to be delegates to an upcoming convention or caucus?

So far there has been one reply from Bradley who said that while he was a 'delegate candidate', he is not a delegate to an upcoming convention or caucus.

 

[spacehabitats]

I am.

Again, I ask: How many of you are still delegates or eligible to be delegates to an upcoming convention or caucus?

So far there has been one reply from Bradley who said that while he was a 'delegate candidate', he is not a delegate to an upcoming convention or caucus.

Actually, I am an alternate to the 5th district convention here in Iowa. (Practicing physicians make notoriously unreliable delegates.)
My wife is a full delegate and we both will be going to Carroll, Iowa on the 19th. She is the one that we are trying to get through to the RNC

BTW, Dr. Steve, if you happen to be driving through southwest Iowa in a couple of weeks be very careful not to get in a car accident.
I hear that the local hospital is going to have a "glorified massage therapist" staffing their emergency room!
I hear they even have him supervising all three of the Physician Assistants who cover the emergency room full time.
But what would you expect from a hospital that would let that same "glorified massage therapist" be their Chief of Staff last year?
And while he isn't a psychiatrist (and does NOT claim to be one) he was the medical director for the geriatric psychiatry unit for a couple of years.

And if you are interested, he does know some excellent psychiatrists.

(Personally, I just think you need to cut down on your caffeine.)

 

[greywolf]

Delegate

Again, I ask: How many of you are still delegates or eligible to be delegates to an upcoming convention or caucus?

So far there has been one reply from Bradley who said that while he was a 'delegate candidate', he is not a delegate to an upcoming convention or caucus.

Thanks for bringing this back on track. I am a delegate to the congressional district caucus on April 19 in Missouri.

 

[cjhowe]

Thanks for bringing this back on track. I am a delegate to the congressional district caucus on April 19 in Missouri.

I have a difficult time believing that those that are still involved in the mechanical process of being a delegate are only in it to secure Ron Paul a nomination. They should at this point understand the power and influence they will have within the party and among their fellow delegates. Your fellow delegates are people. Talk with them. Let them know that you understand what Republican values are built upon.

Regardless of what a fellow internet surfer pontificates as his understanding of the rules, if some scenario unfolds that results in McCain not receiving the nomination, I think we'd do well to ensure that as many liberty minded people are in St. Paul to make the decision on behalf of the Republican party in accordance with their conscience. In the meantime, there are hearts and minds to enlighten on the subject of the false choices of American politics.

 

[greywolf]

Well spoken, cjhowe. We must show a unified front. This thread has be viewed over 6,000 times. You can bet there are Republicans, Dems, Libs, etc. viewing this thread. I also became a delegate because I believe in the Republican ideals and want to see them return to the grassroot Conservative platform. We can provide valuable insight, and it is the duty of all Americans to stand up for what is right and to protect our personal freedoms.

 

[SteveMartin]

I am a delegate to the State Convention in Augusta on May 2, 3.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Again, I ask: How many of you are still delegates or eligible to be delegates to an upcoming convention or caucus?

So far there has been one reply from Bradley who said that while he was a 'delegate candidate', he is not a delegate to an upcoming convention or caucus.

I am not a delegate to an upcoming convention or caucus because unlike Anson's site that lies about the official campaign's approval and is chock full of bad info that Steve keeps promoting--WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONVENTIONS OR CAUCUSES HERE!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

One does have to be a delegate to see that Steve is either lying or delusional.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Well spoken, cjhowe. We must show a unified front.

Exactly why it would be to EVERYONE'S benefit if Steve apologized for lying and simply corrected his misinformation and would work WITH the rest of us who have been putting out good, state-specific information since last May before anyone heard of him.

 

[spacehabitats]

I feel your pain.

"It is best not to antagonize these people. Usually they should just be given a wide berth and let them have their way."

As hard as it is not to rise to their bait,
And as much fun as it is to poke at their inflated egos,
you should realize that they are not going to change.
They will never make a significant admission of guilt or inadequacy because, in the final analysis, it is....
ALL ABOUT THEM.

 

[undergroundrr]

I'm a delegate. Every step of the process opens up new possibilities. Every step introduces me to more dedicated Republicans who detest a McCain nomination.

Whatever accuracies there are in the OP, and whatever the personal qualities of the original poster, his message is still more accurate (and infinitely more useful) than those who state (or even insinuate) that the RP nomination effort is finished.