Federal judge tosses out Montana's firearms freedom act lawsuit

[Matt Collins]

“we’re hopeful that we’ll find some relief from the appellate court,” he said. “but if not, we’ll keep fighting to protect our right to self-determination.”

how will he do so?

 

[Noob]

how will he do so?

I guest well just have to wait and see, mean while he is going to ban Spice. It seems that Idaho likes Federal money and yet likes to say they don't like the feds. How easy is it to run for office in TN? I can't seem to fine any info how you can do that in Idaho, other than you get kick of the ballot rather easy for over the stupidest things and that a lot of Idaho's lawmakers are running unopposed in their reelections.

 

[Pericles]

A well regulated state organized militia could provide a deterrent to federal encroachments on state retained rights not delegated to the federal government.

That is the enforcement mechanism the founders intended for the Constitution.

 

[Anti Federalist]

A well regulated state organized militia could provide a deterrent to federal encroachments on state retained rights not delegated to the federal government.

That is the enforcement mechanism the founders intended for the Constitution.

And there you have it.

After all the blarg blarg blarg, there it is.

You say "oh no, you don't".

The feds say, "oh yes, we are".

You have no option left but to stick a gun in their faces for a change and say "NO, you don't".

And if we are not prepared to do so, then everything is just meaningless, empty talk.

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[Anti Federalist]

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[Noob]

Gun control advocates who joined in the case welcomed the decision.

"We are pleased that the court rejected this dangerous, misguided and unconstitutional law," Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement. "It is already far too easy for dangerous people to get deadly weapons. There is no reason for Montana or other states to allow gun sales without the Brady background checks that help keep guns away from criminals."

http://www.havredailynews.com/cms/news/state_headlines/story-192311.html

 

[ChaosControl]

because the commerce clause grants Congress the power to regulate firearms.

This judge is an idiot who doesn't have a clue about the constitution.

 

[tpreitzel]

I distinctly remember Governor Schweitzer threaten to initiate the possibility of seceding from the union over this issue.

 

[Philhelm]

Gun control advocates who joined in the case welcomed the decision.

"It is already far too easy for dangerous people to get deadly weapons."

Like government law enforcement, for instance.

 

[Dianne]

The federal government owns judges, but has no real power. The people are the power... f..... the federal government. They don't own me or my state.

Feds have no power... it is we the people who have all the power. The feds are our employees, although worthless as they are; we hired them; now let's fire them.

 

[torchbearer]

i do not believe the federal courts should have anything to say about state laws. those should be handled by state courts.

 

[malkusm]

To the extent that the state law conflicts with federal gun laws and regulations, federal law trumps the Montana Firearms Freedom Act, the ATF explained.

Marbut and other gun-rights advocates argued that this answer violates the 10th Amendment, which limits the federal government's authority to the powers specifically outlined in the Constitution.

Not only does the federal government not have the power to regulate firearms, it is specifically PROHIBITED from doing so via the 2nd Amendment. The explanation is so unbelievably far from Constitutional government....

 

[malkusm]

I distinctly remember Governor Schweitzer threaten to initiate the possibility of seceding from the union over this issue.

YouTube? Link? Source?

I've been saying for a while that Ron should adopt this guy as his running mate on a bi-partisan 2012 ticket

 

[osan]

WACO?

No.

WACKO.

 

[osan]

I think the best step is for Montana residents to demand clarification not from federal courts but from their state legislature. The clarification should be another law reaffirming the first one and explicitly empowering state law enforcement to arrest any ATF or other feds who interfere with gun manufacturers, sellers, and owners in Montana who are acting in accordance with state law. Montana residents need to demand this vocally and repeatedly from their representatives, and those legislators who voted for the first law should feel obligated to vote for this one as well. This can be another example proving what Federalist #78 says, which is that the court has neither force nor will, only judgment.

This would seem to be good thinking.

I don't understand why they would go to federal court in the first place. It lends legitimacy to the feds where they have none.

 

[osan]

Advocating violence isn't a good thing.

At some point one has to shit or get off the pot.

 

[tpreitzel]

YouTube? Link? Source?

I've been saying for a while that Ron should adopt this guy as his running mate on a bi-partisan 2012 ticket

You WOULD have to ask that question.

It's been awhile, but Schweitzer made the statement in connection with the guarantee of 2nd amendment rights being a condition of Montana's entrance into the union. I've looked for it in the past without success, but his remarks should be out there. Personally, I don't much time to look into it at the moment. Anyone else remember Schweitzer making a similar remark and do you have access to a source?

 

[Pericles]

I distinctly remember Governor Schweitzer threaten to initiate the possibility of seceding from the union over this issue.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/feb/25/montanans-insist-on-gun-rights/

 

[tpreitzel]

[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/feb/25/montanans-insist-on-gun-rights/[/URL]

Thank you, commander.