Eliminate women's suffrage?

[alicegardener]

Would rhose of you who think this is either a legitimate discussion or a big yuck, would you also think it were either legitimate or funny if we were polling whether or not blacks are too childlike and unintelligent to be full citizens and were probably more suited to slavery? I agree with Buffalo's wife, you guys are ruining my eagerness to work on this campaign and I've probably done as many hours as she has.

 

[stm]

Would rhose of you who think this is either a legitimate discussion or a big yuck, would you also think it were either legitimate or funny if we were polling whether or not blacks are too childlike and unintelligent to be full citizens and were probably more suited to slavery? I agree with Buffalo's wife, you guys are ruining my eagerness to work on this campaign and I've probably done as many hours as she has.

Well, tell me, do you think that it is disputable that men are on average much more prone to violence then women?

Personally, I think that women are much more prone to emotional reactions than men (which is really quite an endearing characteristic, if you ask me). The idea that that somehow makes women inferior, or not as good as men, is not only absolutely ridiculous, but is the truly misogynistic viewpoint on the matter. Yes, there is no notion in the world more patently misogynistic than the idea that women need to be exactly like men to be as "good" as them.

Truth is, men and women are NOT equal, but that is not to say that either of them are better than the other, but rather, that they both possess different (but equally positive) qualities which compliment each other.

 

[Matt Collins]

New poll: How many people want this topic REMOVED?

I will vote yes on that one.

I have to say that this thread should really be closed/deleted.

Wow... amazed at the censorship thought around here

 

[autobot]

Matt Collins you are trying to bring attention to yourself by posting things that hurt the campaign. That is why this thread should be moved to Hot Topics. Here again, Matt Collins, this thread went away and you brought it back. Clearly, you are here for motivations contrary those of us who would like to see Ron Paul elected.

 

[Finn]

I sense some circle jerking going on here.

Well done boys!

 

[autobot]

That's irrelevant.

The point is, Occidental societies which existed prior to 1920 accomplished just as much (if not more)* as Occidental societies do today, so really, your assertion that there's any kind of correlation between "accomplishments" and the "oppression" of women is absurd.

*Arguably, most of the accomplishments prior to 1920 were of far more achievement than those today, as they not only laid all the groundwork for today's technological/scientific advancements, but they did so without all of the technological luxuries which we have today (most of which are the result of the Industrial Revolution).

Furthermore, the fact that we've accomplished so much since 1920, has more to do with the Industrial Revolution than anything else. Industrialize any society which is already making significant advances in science and technology, and you'll see a drastic increase in those advancements.



You mean like America during the time around 1789? If that's evidence of what happens, then count me in.

Geez, I soundly defeated you on your last argument and so now you want to try again. You say that our society has flourished while societies that oppress women have to fight us with box cutters because they are that primitive is irrelevant?? Then you bring up Occidentals????????Perposterous!!!!! Irrelevancy exposed. Right Here, RIGHT NOW!!! YOU are crazy, of course, and probably more infuriating to you---YOU are irrelevant and you just exposed yourself with this Occidental society bs. Did they have computers, airplanes, plagues, low life expectancy, satelites, plumbing..............YOU ARE NOT LOGICAL.

 

[Finn]

Moderators, I have a question.

Is it ok for me to make a similar thread about gays, blacks, jews, etc? You know, their right to vote?

This thread is absolutely disgusting and it does hurt women whether you believe it or not. This thread is little boys suffering small penis and trying to hid it with so called joking.

 

[fortilite]

This thread may have started out as a joke, but it has grown into a full blown retarded thread.

 

[stm]

Geez, I soundly defeated you on your last argument and so now you want to try again.

Categorically incorrect.

You say that our society has flourished while societies that oppress women have to fight us with box cutters because they are that primitive is irrelevant??

What I'm saying is that "our society" (Western civilization, that is) has flourished historically, regardless of any supposed "oppression" of women.

Then you bring up Occidentals????????Perposterous!!!!! Irrelevancy exposed. Right Here, RIGHT NOW!!! YOU are crazy, of course, and probably more infuriating to you---YOU are irrelevant and you just exposed yourself with this Occidental society bs.

What the hell are you talking about? Occidental/Western/European civilization is central to this discussion.

Did they have computers, airplanes, plagues, low life expectancy, satelites, plumbing..............YOU ARE NOT LOGICAL.

Irrelevant.

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt Collins you are trying to bring attention to yourself by posting things that hurt the campaign. Clearly, you are here for motivations contrary those of us who would like to see Ron Paul elected.

Not at all. How do you get to such a conclusion???

And you are a troll.

 

[Matt Collins]

This thread may have started out as a joke, but it has grown into a full blown retarded thread.

I actually agree with that.

 

[autobot]

"What I'm saying is that "our society" (Western civilization, that is) has flourished historically, regardless of any supposed "oppression" of women."




Our society flourishes more when women are given more rights. Yes Western civilization has always treated women better, and has reaped the benefits. More rights for women equals a better life for all. What don't you understand here?
Moms are the future of the country.

 

[LibertiORDeth]

I take (what I believe to be) a biblical view on this.

I believe that biblically a man is the head of the home, and is supposed to be the breadwinner, and the woman is to take care of the home and her children. The man should be the religious and political leader, although occasionally women have to take the lead when there are no men strong enough to do it.

 

[autobot]

Matt Collins is the OP he brings back a dead thread over and over. It is inappropriate and has no benefit except to bring himself attention. Matt Collins is fully responsible for this thread in every way. I will not allow women's suffrage to get railed against without a defense because that would not be in my interest as a women. Matt Collins has so many posts that are directed at bringing down women I can't believe you people think he is funny.

Only a fool believes his neighbor when he insults him and says "I am only joking"

I am not a fool, so I respond.

 

[autobot]

I take (what I believe to be) a biblical view on this.

I believe that biblically a man is the head of the home, and is supposed to be the breadwinner, and the woman is to take care of the home and her children. The man should be the religious and political leader, although occasionally women have to take the lead when there are no men strong enough to do it.

I agree with you on this, actually. But taking a mother's right to vote away and you will have a backwards society. Women were not created as less than man. She is cursed after the fall to be subject to men. So be careful because if you believe in the Bible the curse of fallen man will be lifted and that would include the one against Eve. Wisdom is a female attribute. This is why women make excellent judges. Let a man lead, because men resent women leaders, however, women need to be able to hold men accountable. Otherwise the next generations will suffer from having oppressed mothers.

 

[Finn]

Autobot, the OP is a total moron. His snidy little "I'm joking, but really like being serious a little bit" made it obvious right from the beginning.

Most know it as you can see in the poll.

 

[RonPaulRocksMyWorld]

This thread is a waste of time that could be better spent to get RP elected. People use your time wisely please we have so little left.

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt Collins is the OP he brings back a dead thread over and over.

This thread was started 3 days ago, hardly "dead".

I will not allow women's suffrage to get railed against without a defense because that would not be in my interest as a women.

That's perfectly ok. Post your thoughts, that's what this thread is here for. But attacking others while trying to pass it off as a serious statement is immature and rude.

If you have serious thoughts on women's suffrage, then please share.

My honest opinion which I have not shared yet is that I do think there is some merit to the theory that our socialistic expansion was due in part to women being able to vote (although I am not fully educated on the issue to be able to really discuss it - which is why I created the thread). But regardless I do not think that we should repeal suffrage for women.

Matt Collins has so many posts that are directed at bringing down women I can't believe you people think he is funny.

Links?

That's absurd.

I am not a fool, so I respond.

No but I think you are a Feminazi.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I think suffrage should be denied to EVERYONE who has not served in the military. You shouldn't get a voice on policy unless you put your own flesh on the line to defend that policy.

*Puts on flame-proof undies*

 

[autobot]

For the two of you trying to argue with me I don't have the time to respond nor do I need to because the truth is obvious. Nice try but you all have been officially crushed in this thread by a woman. Maybe we should have a poll to see who won this thread. NOW that sounds fun!!!!

MOMs are GREAT!!!!!

I love women, and no, not like that. Women are wise, intelligent, good with words, thoughtful. I love to work with women because they are cooperative, creative and hard workers. I love to hang out with women because they are deep, spiritual beings. Women were made last, people. I just had to say something nice about women at the end of a thread that has been cruel.