Gary Johnson Disturbing Video of Gary Johnson's Views on Iraq

[Travlyr]

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It truly is the free market of ideas. It a wonderful forum. Kudos to the founders & all the posters ... and virtual + reps for all.

 

[johnrocks]

A person who has a different take than your own or my own isn't necessarily "ignorant and closed minded". That type attitude does nothing to win friends and influence people.

 

[cdc482]

I've been posting a link to this video many times before he announced. This is the reason why I don't trust the guy, if he agreed with RP he would have been unafraid at articulating his position to hannity and mentioning the theory of blowback.

edit: this is not the entire interview. you missed the part where he agreed with hannity that iraqis somehow owe us for 'liberating' their country



it's @ 4:15

Damn. Lost all my respect for Johnson just now.

 

[specsaregood]

A person who has a different take than your own or my own isn't necessarily "ignorant and closed minded". That type attitude does nothing to win friends and influence people.

I would never accuse you of that even if i strongly disagree with your acceptance of Johnson's response.

 

[johnrocks]

GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
@
@JPollock94 I believe in Austrian economics.


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
@
@anthonyschiessl I think we should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and I don't think we should have intervened in Libya #gjchat


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
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RT @galtenberg The 3 things I condemn most would be 1) spending 2) IRAQ and 3) continued involvement in Afghanistan #gjchat


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
We should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan tomorrow. Libya? Opposed to US military involvement.
http://twitter.com/#!/GovGaryJohnson


I'm just not going to hang my hat on what Sean Hannity says or the wedge he tries to cause between us ;sorry.

 

[JCLibertarian]

Gary Johnson sounded like a groveling pussy with no conviction in those videos. Ron Paul might not when an election, but at least he has principles and isn't afraid to articulate them. No one is going to vote for a guy like Gary Johnson who wavers from every argument he makes and concedes every point. This guy will probably get less votes than Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter, he might even drop out before any primary. I don't see how he is a considered a threat to Dr. Paul, no one I know of other than Nick Gillespie supports Gary Johnson over Ron Paul.

 

[belian78]

LOL... GJ being in the primary as an opponent of Ron is the wedge, don't you see that?

 

[zacharyrow]

The problem is when Hannity asked him about blowback he got scared and didn't answer the question.

 

[johnrocks]

I would never accuse you of that even if i strongly disagree with your acceptance of Johnson's response.

Thank you,sincerely. I'll be 50 in a few weeks and I've been a fan of Ron Paul since the days he endorsed Reagan over Ford but I honestly like Johnson;not nearly as much as RP but I do like him;a lot.

 

[AGRP]

GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
@
@JPollock94 I believe in Austrian economics.


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
@
@anthonyschiessl I think we should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and I don't think we should have intervened in Libya #gjchat


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
@
RT @galtenberg The 3 things I condemn most would be 1) spending 2) IRAQ and 3) continued involvement in Afghanistan #gjchat


GovGaryJohnson Gov Gary Johnson
We should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan tomorrow. Libya? Opposed to US military involvement.
http://twitter.com/#!/GovGaryJohnson


I'm just not going to hang my hat on what Sean Hannity says or the wedge he tries to cause between us ;sorry.

Do you seriously believe GJ is going to side with his twitter followers?

 

[Brett85]

Gary is also for Gitmo.

Yeah, that's one issue where he's actually better than Ron.

 

[johnrocks]

LOL... GJ being in the primary as an opponent of Ron is the wedge, don't you see that?

I believe in the freedom of people to run and people to support who they want, it's our job to "sell" people on Ron Paul and criticizing Gary Johnson and/or his supporters doesn't do it anymore than me trying to sell an insurance policy is going to be more successful if I just spend my time knocking the perspective client, their current agent or their current insurance company.

I honestly believe that and if you think I'm wrong, I respect your opinion; I just disagree.

 

[johnrocks]

Do you seriously believe GJ is going to side with his twitter followers?

I have a choice, look at his eight year record as Governor, look at his speeches over the years and look at things such as a Q&A session on Twitter or base my decision on a few seconds of him on Sean Hannity being questioned about Ron Paul and foreign policy, my ears didn't hear him criticize Ron Paul in the video that I watched.

 

[iamse7en]

The reason for GJ's hesitation and terrible answer? He was thinking like a politician: "How do I answer this question without looking as kooky as Ron Paul, but also not offending his supporters, because I need them to vote for me in the coming years."

You will see. When push comes to shove, he'll line up with the status quo, just as Reason and Cato do, when it comes to central banking, and true non-interventionism. You're seeing snippets of it now. I called this many months ago.

 

[freshjiva]

You will see. When push comes to shove, he'll line up with the status quo, just as Reason and Cato do, when it comes to central banking, and true non-interventionism. You're seeing snippets of it now. I called this many months ago.

Source? CATO is every bit as noninterventionist, pro-free markets, and pro-sound money as Ron Paul is.
I can't recall his name, but there was a CATO fellow who was invited to contribute to a fascinating panel debating foreign policy at CPAC in the main ballroom (where thousands of people are). He took a principled stand and argued very convincingly that there's nothing conservative about our policy in the middle east and around the world.

 

[JCLibertarian]

Yeah, that's one issue where he's actually better than Ron.

We gotta lock up those turists forever who hate our freedom, if we give them a trial, they might not be guilty and get to go. Secret trials are quicker, way more efficient, and we know the verdict. We gotta lock them up forever because they might commit a crime at some time in the future.

 

[belian78]

I believe in the freedom of people to run and people to support who they want, it's our job to "sell" people on Ron Paul and criticizing Gary Johnson and/or his supporters doesn't do it anymore than me trying to sell an insurance policy is going to be more successful if I just spend my time knocking the perspective client, their current agent or their current insurance company.

I honestly believe that and if you think I'm wrong, I respect your opinion; I just disagree.

Agree to disagree and all that, yeah I get it. But my opinion is that its not ok to spend our time trying to convince GJ supporters to back Ron when we should all be working together to get independents and republicans behind Rons campaign. Which would be happening already had GJ not entered the presidential picture and focused on a senate race.

 

[Brett85]

We gotta lock up those turists forever who hate our freedom, if we give them a trial, they might not be guilty and get to go. Secret trials are quicker, way more efficient, and we know the verdict. We gotta lock them up forever because they might commit a crime at some time in the future.

I don't support holding the prisoners indefinitely without trying them, but military tribunals are authorized in the Constitution for people who we capture on the battlefield.

"Congress shall have the power to declare war, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.

"Congress shall have the power to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court."

Also, trying the high profile terrorists in New York City will cost taxpayers over 1 billion dollars, and that's clearly the fiscally liberal position on this issue. Trying the prisoners in military tribunals is the fiscally conservative position on this issue, the Constitutional position, and the position that makes the most sense from a national security perspective.

 

[klamath]

I fully expect this question to be asked. "Gov. Johnson, you and congressmen Paul are from the libertarian wing of the party, why should people vote for you over Congressman Paul?"

 

[Fredom101]

Here's the thing:

Ron Paul's very appeal with us is that he is straightforward and honest in a moral cesspool of loser candidates. He doesn't pull punches and he sticks with his guns on every question. He is not afraid to make statements like get rid of the income tax and replace it with nothing, or legalize all drugs.

Ron Paul Lite won't work. Most libertarians aren't going to buy it, and he won't be neocon enough to sway the neocons.

GJ is a bad idea.