Gary Johnson Disturbing Video of Gary Johnson's Views on Iraq

[klamath]

I'm not supporting Gary Johnson but ;at the same time; look at Sarah Palins
's record and Gary Johnson's record, look at Palins views on foreign policy over a two year period and Gary Johnson's views over the same period.

She may line up in a lot of areas but not nearly as close as Johnson;hell; IIRC, Johnson signed legislation ; can we say the same for Palin , he supports a much more non interventionist foreign policy;can we say the same for Palin?

And that is why Palin and Bachmann stand head and shoulders over GJ in my book because he puts this above life, "legalizing Peyote on Indian Reservations and supports legalization of marijuana" so I think for those that support Bachmann and palin as a second choice we should start posting every tv, debate, speach and favorable article on here so we can build the base.

However John I do agree with you on the stupid acts of some of RP supporters in the last election.

 

[sailingaway]

Why do I consider him saying 'I want to give you an opportunity to express itself...' as the bait before the other shoe falls?

Here comes the caliphate again.....

 

[Theocrat]

GJ Must Not Have Been Listening, or He Was Nervous

His reaction/answer to Hannity's litmus test is very troublesome. The way he answered it too. Its as if his family was in danger if he didn't answer it the way he did.

Thanks to specsaregood.

All Gary Johnson had to do (if he truly heard Congressman Paul's statements about Iraq in the debate) was correct Hannity that Dr. Paul was blaming American foreign policy, not Americans. It was that simple, but it looked like Gary just folded to Hannity's false claims.

 

[belian78]

It's dishonest to say I ever called you ignorant or close minded. In fact, I never called you out but you did call me out: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...hnson-vs-Ron-Paul-thing&p=3229177#post3229177

I'm done with this bickering. You guys think Gary johnson is shit and no better than "Sarah Palin." Fine. Same people who bitch about Gitmo have to then renounce their support of Rand Paul since he has the same view.

You might want to tell your ego that I might not have been referring to you. In fact, from the link you provide, it shows who I was referring to.

And I stand by what I said, you and Matt seem too eager to have this wedge in the grassroots, spread between GJ and Ron. Just do us a favor and put any further GJ threads where they belong, in the opposing candidates section.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

You might want to tell your ego that I might not have been referring to you. In fact, from the link you provide, it shows who I was referring to.

And I stand by what I said, you and Matt seem too eager to have this wedge in the grassroots, spread between GJ and Ron. Just do us a favor and put any further GJ threads where they belong, in the opposing candidates section.

Um. Ok..... who did you mention:

Fine, you and bama

Also, I love how Myself and Matt saying we should not be blasting Johnson and that he is part of our movement and for the Liberty movement..... you say we are causing th "Wedge." Um..... ok. So, it would be better if I said "Gary Johnson is a Neo-Con and not part of our movement" would bring our movement together?

FYI.... This thread was put in General Politics by someone wanting to bash Johnson. So, you are all over the place. It's ok.

 

[dannno]

You might want to tell your ego that I might not have been referring to you. In fact, from the link you provide, it shows who I was referring to.

And I stand by what I said, you and Matt seem too eager to have this wedge in the grassroots, spread between GJ and Ron. Just do us a favor and put any further GJ threads where they belong, in the opposing candidates section.

Gary Johnson is not an opposing candidate... Opposing candidates are those who oppose liberty.

I would think the forum would welcome all liberty candidates to the table.

 

[dannno]

And that is why Palin and Bachmann stand head and shoulders over GJ in my book because he puts this above life, "legalizing Peyote on Indian Reservations and supports legalization of marijuana" so I think for those that support Bachmann and palin as a second choice we should start posting every tv, debate, speach and favorable article on here so we can build the base.

However John I do agree with you on the stupid acts of some of RP supporters in the last election.

Those are some ridiculous priorities, you seem to be under some delusion that the whole country is suddenly going to make abortion illegal and that some how that is going to significantly reduce the number of abortions and that there is some rational reason why we should only vote based on the issue of abortion.

Ron Paul supported Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader for President in '08 against who?? McCain and fucking Sarah Palin... all of those candidates he supported wanted to end the war on drugs, but not McCain and Sarah fucking Palin who he did not support. Ron Paul is someone with a much better list of priorities.

 

[Wren]

Presidential candidate Gary Johnson quells rumors he and Ron Paul will coordinate campaigns: http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/28/gary-johnson-i-have-no-contact-with-ron-paul/

 

[Travlyr]

Gary Johnson is not an opposing candidate... Opposing candidates are those who oppose liberty.

I would think the forum would welcome all liberty candidates to the table.

Interventionism and liberty are opposing philosophies.

Defense and the Middle East War

It is important to have a strong defense both at home and abroad. We are each grateful and appreciate those that are involved with our nation’s military.

The United States should be protected from terrorism and those that attack America should be brought to justice quickly and efficiently. The United States should be proactive in such matters.

The United State should only be involved in just causes and should not engage in or risk military action except when needed to protect it’s specific interests. All defense budgets should be reviewed and balanced the same as any other governmental budget.

Gary Johnson opposed the war in Iraq as Governor of New Mexico and believes that the United States should withdraw our troops from both Iraq and Afghanistan as soon as effectively possible, believing that neither country poses a current threat to the US.

The United States should not be borrowing money to build roads, bridges, schools and other infrastructure in foreign countries, especially when such help is currently needed at home. Non-military foreign aid around the world is something we can not currently afford.

Governor Johnson supports the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign country and believes that the United States should protect that right militarily if needed.

ht tp://ouramericainitiative.com/issues/defense-and-the-middle-east-war

I'm tired of paying for militarism.

 

[belian78]

Gary Johnson is not an opposing candidate... Opposing candidates are those who oppose liberty.

I would think the forum would welcome all liberty candidates to the table.

GJ is running against Ron and the other R candidates for the republican nomination, yes? Then indeed, he is an opposing candidate.

 

[belian78]

Um. Ok..... who did you mention:

Also, I love how Myself and Matt saying we should not be blasting Johnson and that he is part of our movement and for the Liberty movement..... you say we are causing th "Wedge." Um..... ok. So, it would be better if I said "Gary Johnson is a Neo-Con and not part of our movement" would bring our movement together?

FYI.... This thread was put in General Politics by someone wanting to bash Johnson. So, you are all over the place. It's ok.

Lol troll harder dude.

 

[dannno]

GJ is running against Ron and the other R candidates for the republican nomination, yes? Then indeed, he is an opposing candidate.

This is a liberty forum whose ideals most closely resemble Ron Paul's ideals. We support all sorts of liberty candidates and would fully support a Republican Primary debate with Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Tom Woods and other libertarian candidates over the field we have today.

An opposing candidate, to me, is someone who opposes liberty.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

Um. Ok..... who did you mention:


Lol troll harder dude.

Troll? Nevermind. You have issues.

 

[belian78]

Yeah, I have issues because I fail to see how GJ drawing supporters and grassroots volunteers away from Rons primary campaign is a good thing. My mind, it boggles....

 

[surf]

here's what we can hope for: two against 5 as opposed to one against 8 the last time around. GJ needs to be anti-empire (as opposed to the whimpy 43% figure) and anti-war to get me intersted in the least. two anti-war candidates would be outfuckingstanding. two anti-war pro-pot dudes in a nationally televised debate is something i could never have imagined seeing anywhere but on CSPAN3 during coverage of a libertarian nominating convention.

my gf has watched Apollo 13 getting teary-eyed at the end a few times over the past few weeks, and she surprised the shit out of me when upon hearing GJ say something like, "we can send a man to the moon, we can fix this budget," she proclaimed "that's my candidate!" (she's comparing this economic clusterfuck to that mission as GJ is - and the happy ending). she knows i love RP and she sported a bumper sticker, gave to moneybombs, and was a delegate from my precinct for Ron last time.

she also just "liked" or "friended" GJ on facebook - whatever the hell that means. pretty sure she's already done that for Ron.

 

[ClayTrainor]

An opposing candidate, to me, is someone who opposes liberty.

To me, the juries still out on GJ in regards to this. He doesn't seem very principled.

 

[klamath]

Those are some ridiculous priorities, you seem to be under some delusion that the whole country is suddenly going to make abortion illegal and that some how that is going to significantly reduce the number of abortions and that there is some rational reason why we should only vote based on the issue of abortion.

Ron Paul supported Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader for President in '08 against who?? McCain and fucking Sarah Palin... all of those candidates he supported wanted to end the war on drugs, but not McCain and Sarah fucking Palin who he did not support. Ron Paul is someone with a much better list of priorities.

Sorry danno but I don't hold, that a practice that has killed more people than all the wars in the last century to the same level as being able to smoke weed. You may I don't so we have our own ideas of a second choice candidate based on issues we each feel is important.

 

[specsaregood]

Those are some ridiculous priorities, you seem to be under some delusion that the whole country is suddenly going to make abortion illegal and that some how that is going to significantly reduce the number of abortions and that there is some rational reason why we should only vote based on the issue of abortion.

In the republican primary it is not a ridiculous priority.

 

[klamath]

I just did a long google search of the threads on GJ. Of all the people supporting GJ a good portion jumped ship from RP (RP losing his base) or people that absolutely detested RP but liked GJ. (So much for bringing people in to support RP)
Other GJ supporters were hoping to have RP say all the "crazy extreame" stuff so that GJ could slide in and be the sane candidate and steal RP's voters.

 

[Flash]

That video wasn't disturbing at all. He's presenting his Libertarian argument in a manner which will please Neo-Conservatives, Progressives, & Moderates. This is what is needed for the sake of Libertarianism.