DC Police Chief Responds to Adam Kokesh's Planned Armed March

[Petar]

the DC cops will be breaking the law, they should be arrested.

And I should have a harem, what difference does it make in this world?

 

[torchbearer]

And I should have a harem, what difference does it make in this world?

well, maybe it should be injected into the matrix, by someone who would be quoted in the media that the DC cops are not upholding the law, they will in fact, be the ones breaking it.
let the liberals hiss over the comment for awhile.

 

[Petar]

well, maybe it should be injected into the matrix, by someone who would be quoted in the media that the DC cops are not upholding the law, they will in fact, be the ones breaking it.
let the liberals hiss over the comment for awhile.

Sure, but there comes a point where hysteria takes over and telling the truth only gets you burned with the witches.

Adam Kokesh does not even seem to be aware that invoking this eventuality is precisely what he is flirting with here.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

The alternative to killing people and causing distruction with no gain? Hmmm. I like to kill a lot, let me think about that one

Accept the status quo? Oh, okay. If you believe that's what we should do, then fine, but I don't see what you're doing here if that's what you think.

 

[TheTexan]

Don't you ever wonder if maybe he is just controlled opposition?

I mean couldn't Janet Napolitano really use someone like him to provoke something that will give her the excuse that she needs to round up the patriots?

The guy doesn't even seem to be aware of what kind of tightrope he is walking here, so at best he seems really reckless.

You know how I know hes not controlled opposition? Because the LAST thing that TPTB wants is to even give anyone any IDEAS about armed rebellion. Its the only thing they fear.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Don't you ever wonder if maybe he is just controlled opposition?

I mean couldn't Janet Napolitano really use someone like him to provoke something that will give her the excuse that she needs to round up the patriots?

The guy doesn't even seem to be aware of what kind of tightrope he is walking here, so at best he seems really reckless.

What does Janet Napolitano have to do with this?

 

[torchbearer]

Sure, but there comes a point where hysteria takes over and telling the truth only gets you burned with the witches.

Adam Kokesh does not even seem to be aware that invoking this eventuality is precisely what he is flirting with here.

but it needs to be said. it needs to be verbalized.
because that is what this action is saying.

 

[shane77m]

Don't you ever wonder if maybe he is just controlled opposition?

I mean couldn't Janet Napolitano really use someone like him to provoke something that will give her the excuse that she needs to round up the patriots?

The guy doesn't even seem to be aware of what kind of tightrope he is walking here, so at best he seems really reckless.

Anyone could be controlled opposition. Finally someone has the guts to do what others are thinking and suddenly the man is controlled opposition, DHS, commie, leftwing nujob, rightwing nutjob, and etc.

 

[klamath]

I wouldnt say no gain. The last revolution worked fairly well. It didnt last, but thats not necessarily the fault of the revolutionaries. Even though their gains are now lost, I still consider it worth it.

You have to understand, its the threat of violence that prevents people from trampling on your rights. Even otherwise good people will trample on your rights, because they believe it is right or necessary. The threat of defensive force is what keeps them at bay.

We dont necessarily need to use force to reclaim our rights, but we will need to be prepared to do so if necessary. If we refuse to take up arms in our defense, they will continue as they always have to take up arms against us, unopposed, with nothing to lose.

I don't necessary think we gained that much in the last revolution. 5 million americans had not one bit of freedom. The british actually freed their slaves before we did and without killing a million people. It wasn't the violent revolution that gave us freedom as much as the minds of men like Locke and others. The war just gave us independence not necessarily freedom. The tories sure weren't afforded any freedom nor the blacks.
The real force that forces change is the mass of the public. Lose that and you are going to lose the battle of force.

 

[Petar]

You know how I know hes not controlled opposition? Because the LAST thing that TPTB wants is to even give anyone any IDEAS about armed rebellion. Its the only thing they fear.

No, what they need is an event to tie patriots to violent extremism.

What do you think Oklahoma City was about?

They need popular support for their plans to round us all up.

What does Janet Napolitano have to do with this?

Janet Napolitano is the head of the DHS.

These people literally sit around and try to figure out how they can impose martial-law, all day long.

but it needs to be said. it needs to be verbalized.
because that is what this action is saying.

Say it, but don't go about it in such a way that threatens to dismantle the entire liberty movement.

Anyone could be controlled opposition. Finally someone has the guts to do what others are thinking and suddenly the man is controlled opposition, DHS, commie, leftwing nujob, rightwing nutjob, and etc.

I've always suspected Adam of being controlled opposition, but even if I am wrong, he should at the very least be capable of addressing the dangerous tightrope that he really is walking in this case.

 

[torchbearer]

Say it, but don't go about it in such a way that threatens to dismantle the entire liberty movement.

the whole point of saying it, defines the action. It starts the right debate. It makes this action work.

 

[TheTexan]

I don't necessary think we gained that much in the last revolution. 5 million americans had not one bit of freedom. The british actually freed their slaves before we did and without killing a million people. It wasn't the violent revolution that gave us freedom as much as the minds of men like Locke and others. The war just gave us independence not necessarily freedom. The tories sure weren't afforded any freedom nor the blacks.
The real force that forces change is the mass of the public. Lose that and you are going to lose the battle of force.

Indeed it was minds like Locke that made the revolution worthwhile. Who is to say that Paul(s), Mises, Hayek, Rothbard wouldnt play a similar role.

 

[klamath]

Accept the status quo? Oh, okay. If you believe that's what we should do, then fine, but I don't see what you're doing here if that's what you think.

Why are YOU still here? I have been told multiple time by you violence advocates "why am I here". Because when I joined and I see it is still in the forums guidelines it was for political change.

+ For extreme violations a ban can be issued, such as for advocating violence or for obvious spam-bots.

Will the moderaters or administrators please inform me if I missread the guidelines and I need to be banned for NOT supporting a VIOLENT revolution? Is that now the intent of the Forums?

 

[Petar]

the whole point of saying it, defines the action. It starts the right debate. It makes this action work.

All I'm saying is that if this event goes sideways and turns into people shooting at each other, then that gives Janet Napolitano the excuse that she needs to round us all up.

It's not like they don't have the resources!

And who is going to sympathize with us in that case?

We need to play this smart.

The empire is going to collapse on it's own, we need to stay active and wait for that time to come.

We cannot afford to be seen as the belligerents, it would be suicide.

 

[jclay2]

Why are YOU still here? I have been told multiple time by you violence advocates "why am I here". Because when I joined and I see it is still in the forums guidelines it was for political change.


Will the moderaters or administrators please inform me if I missread the guidelines and I need to be banned for NOT supporting a VIOLENT revolution? Is that now the intent of the Forums?

If they had online forums back in 1776, the ff would have been banned for sure.

 

[Petar]

People need to get it out of their heads that today = 1776.

It's incredibly narrow minded to assume that everything is exactly the same today and requires the exact same approach.

 

[tod evans]

Why isn't it okay to let AK do what he wants?

Same for every person on the board...

The majority of us are grown up and can make decisions on our own.

AK isn't a spokesman for RP or even RPF so I've got problems getting my head around the objections..

Or are there a batch of folks here who belong to some super top secret club that AK's march is going to shine a negative light on?

 

[torchbearer]

Why isn't it okay to let AK do what he wants?

Same for every person on the board...

The majority of us are grown up and can make decisions on our own.

AK isn't a spokesman for RP or even RPF so I've got problems getting my head around the objections..

Or are there a batch of folks here who belong to some super top secret club that AK's march is going to shine a negative light on?

maybe these cowards just want to leave an evidence trail that they were good statist boot-lickers so they get a bunk at fema camp instead of a dirt nap in a mass grave.

 

[klamath]

Why isn't it okay to let AK do what he wants?

Same for every person on the board...

The majority of us are grown up and can make decisions on our own.

AK isn't a spokesman for RP or even RPF so I've got problems getting my head around the objections..

Or are there a batch of folks here who belong to some super top secret club that AK's march is going to shine a negative light on?

Adam is a public figure. Why can't people express their opinion on an action. I guess we shouldn't express any opinion on any subject or event. Support him or STFU!

 

[torchbearer]

Adam is a public figure. Why can't people express their opinion on an action. I guess we shouldn't express any opinion on any subject or event. Support him or STFU!

Well, i don't think you should stfu.
I hope i never came across that way.
I may be an ass, but i fully expect people to debate me passionately.