DC Police Chief Responds to Adam Kokesh's Planned Armed March

[torchbearer]

I am a STRONG believer in PEACE through strength.

then we will need more the 1000 people to show up in virginia if we want to keep peace.

 

[klamath]

It's always possible. Historically there aren't just a whole lot of examples of gaining independence without at least some blood shed.

The way I see it, is there are only three options to gain freedom:
1) Convince enough people in America to give us permission to be free
2) Take freedom and be sufficiently armed to do it without their permission
3) Run into the mountains or the ocean or an island and hope they don't find you

#1 Isn't going to happen.

#2 Could be peaceful. The better armed and the more prepared we are to defend ourselves, the better the chance for peace.

If you're not prepared to defend yourself, at all, you will have to go with option #3. If you try #2 without being prepared to defend yourself, you will either be killed, or enslaved.

(I suppose you could possibly convince the people in America to give you permission to be free if you paid them enough. But that would be quite the large sum of cash!! And this is a theoretical possibility at best)

I am a STRONG believer in PEACE through strength.

 

[torchbearer]

gun ownership is being demonized in the media, the same as the being a jew in nazi germany
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/no-ea-wont-license-guns-in-its-2013-games-but-it-never-has/

even in the gaming industry, media acts like support gun makers by buying their gun licenses is a bad thing.

 

[torchbearer]

the line in the sand is now.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I am a STRONG believer in PEACE through strength.

What kind of strength?

It would seem to me, this is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate that strength.

 

[klamath]

then we will need more the 1000 people to show up in virginia if we want to keep peace.

Peace throught strength is that 200 million guns silently out in the population, not a 1000 or 10 thousand guns parading around washington.

 

[TheTexan]

Independence does not equal freedom. Lots of countries have gained independence through violence but not many people have gained freedom through violence.

I agree, but you can't have freedom without independence. I believe you missed the point, because you didn't really address the post.

but not many people have gained freedom through violence.

Not many people have gained freedom.... at all. The entire world is a giant slave system. If you haven't noticed.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

So who's going?

 

[torchbearer]

Peace throught strength is that 200 million guns silently out in the population, not a 1000 or 10 thousand guns not parading around washington.

um, there are 300 million silent gun owners in the population right now.
all of them sitting behind a keyboard is not strength.

 

[torchbearer]

So who's going?

I don't expect to be there, but its for noble reasons.

 

[TheTexan]

um, there are 300 million silent gun owners in the population right now.
all of them sitting behind a keyboard is not strength.

This, for fucks sake. There is no difference, none at all, between having no weapons, and being unwilling to use them.

 

[klamath]

I agree, but you can't have freedom without independence. I believe you missed the point, because you didn't really address the post.



Not many people have gained freedom.... at all.

That is true. Not many have and the day that the masses get total freedom will be the day that anarchy will function.

 

[klamath]

um, there are 300 million silent gun owners in the population right now.
all of them sitting behind a keyboard is not strength.

Oh yes they are. That is very much on gun grabber minds and that is what they fear. They know they are there but they know not where. When they are in Washington they know where. It is what they can't see that they fear.

 

[torchbearer]

Oh yes they are. That is very much on gun grabber minds and that is what they fear. They know they are there but they know not where. When they are in Washington they know where. It is what they can't see that they fear.

they would also fear what they see.
but until they see people willing to take action, it doesn't matter.

 

[Deborah K]

I'm pretty sure Adam is doing this to prove a point, not start a war. He is capable of respectfully arguing with 'authorities' as is evidenced by this video:



This doesn't necessarily have to go bad. Adam is an antagonist. It's who he is. Sam Adams was one too.

I'm not at all surprised that there are so many who don't have the courage of their convictions.

But, as I've always said, we don't have to agree on the best way to advance the cause of freedom. You do it your way, I'll do it mine, Adam will do it his. The only thing we need to agree on, is that it's worth the effort.

 

[klamath]

they would also fear what they see.
but until they see people willing to take action, it doesn't matter.

They don't fear Adams march. He can be handled.

 

[torchbearer]

They don't fear Adams march. He can be handled.

with a 1000 people yes.
with a 100000 people, no.
are you purposely trying to push people away from this idea, because you want a low turn-out, thus a violent end?
in your fear, you are creating your own disaster. self-fulfilling prophecy.
the answer, more people.
even if you can't go yourself, get the word out. tell people there will be peace/strength through numbers. save this event by providing numbers.

 

[klamath]

I'm pretty sure Adam is doing this to prove a point, not start a war. He is capable of respectfully arguing with 'authorities' as is evidenced by this video:



This doesn't necessarily have to go bad. Adam is an antagonist. It's who he is. Sam Adams was one too.

I'm not at all surprised that there are so many who don't have the courage of their convictions.

But, as I've always said, we don't have to agree on the best way to advance the cause of freedom. You do it your way, I'll do it mine, Adam will do it his. The only thing we need to agree on, it that it's worth the effort.

No, not necessarily. Not if we believe it is a detriment to the effort. And for the record I don't think Adam would start shooting. I think he likes to argue but what we don't know is if one of those guns behind him does.

 

[torchbearer]

And for the record I don't think Adam would start shooting.

then you don't know adam, and this is why your fear is illogical.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

"I have a permit actually, it's the first amendment of the constitution." Grade A stuff here.