Cop Kicks Suspect's Head - High Fives Other Cop

[BeFranklin]

If you look at the cop video, the suspect was down on the ground with arms spread, not moving and defenseless.

That was assault. Keeping with current standards, the cop should get about 3 years in prison on conviction - and its on film.
Conviction would be almost automatic. The only way the cop will have out of going to jail is striking a deal with a crooked
justice system, and that is almost certainly what he will try.

 

[KoldKut]

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[LibertyEagle]

I said numerous times in this thread that the cop was out of line.

But the cop wasn't nearly as far out of line as the perp.

I just think it's fucking hilarious how much the denizens of this forum despise cops and love criminals.

"OH MY GOD HE KICKED THAT GUY IN THE HEAD?!?!? WTF!?!? BURN HIM!!!!!"

But for the perp who recklessly endangered so many innocent lives?

*crickets*

The perp was arrested. He will be tried in a court of law. If found guilty, he will be sentenced. That's the way it's supposed to work.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Does anyone here know what the LAPD training manual says in situation like this? I mean, was the officer acting in accordance with his training given the specifics of the scenario? I certainly don't know. But seems like a reasonable question. Is it the officer who is at fault, is it LAPD policy, is it training, or are there some things that we as onlookers just didn't see that justified this type of maneuver by the cop?

Look, I'm certainly no advocate of unnecessary police violence, but I'd like a little information before I jump to any conclusions here. The cop wasn't attacking some political protester here, he's attacking a criminal who just put people's lives in danger. What's the protocol?

It's certainly NOT kicking someone in the frickin' head!! The guy was not resisting. He was flat out on the ground with arms and legs spread eagle.

 

[purplechoe]

Am I being voted off the island?

And for what? Because I expressed some opinions that people found distasteful? Because I dared to not share in the groupthink? Because my posts contained elements of sarcasm? Because I didn't back down when certain posters clucked their tongues at me?

Well if you are so shocked, and can not bear to view my satanic ramblings any longer, then may I suggest to you the "ignore user" feature of these forums? It's a great feature. It allows you to block out anyone and everyone who's views you find offensive, stupid, and/or trollish. Turning a chaotic forum of argument into a soothing place where all your preconceptions can be reinforced, all your desires echoed, and all your blandness welcomed.

 

[Lord Xar]

If you look at the cop video, the suspect was down on the ground with arms spread, not moving and defenseless.

That was assault. Keeping with current standards, the cop should get about 3 years in prison on conviction - and its on film.
Conviction would be almost automatic. The only way the cop will have out of going to jail is striking a deal with a crooked
justice system, and that is almost certainly what he will try.

Well, I am not one for violence but I am not so sure I am of the mind that the cop was 'so' wrong.

Hear me out. this thug leads police on a wild high speed chase.... jeopardizing many lives in the process. He gets out and runs... and ONLY when he can't get away, he "gives up".... he is certainly not defenseless in the respect I think. Infact, given his behaviour, a reasonable person can't assume anything.

Perhaps I was raised differently. But you don't act the fool, jeopardize lives and obviously a criminal, then cry foul when you get a boot to the head.

Hi fives???? hmmm. C'mon, the high five was given AFTER the dude was handcuffed and the 'chase done'. The high fives wasn't for the boot in the head, but for apprehending the criminal, what is wrong with that? Its like scoring a touchdown... you know what I mean. I think the extreme I take it one way, you perhaps take it the other.... lets meet in the middle.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

um i doubt he high-fived him for kicking his head, but for catching him

 

[BeFranklin]

Perhaps I was raised differently. But you don't act the fool, jeopardize lives and obviously a criminal, then cry foul when you get a boot to the head.

Hi fives???? hmmm. C'mon, the high five was given AFTER the dude was handcuffed and the 'chase done'. The high fives wasn't for the boot in the head, but for apprehending the criminal, what is wrong with that? Its like scoring a touchdown... you know what I mean. I think the extreme I take it one way, you perhaps take it the other.... lets meet in the middle.

Well, if we are going to make up stories, the guy ran because he was afraid of the cop.

Where I was raised, cops don't have any more power than citizens. But that was an america a long time ago.

 

[Objectivist]

I was always told that if I use my feet it's a FELONY. I understand the Police Chief said it's under review, as if watching the video wasn't enough to charge the shithead with felony assault. Maybe they should hire a new Chief that understands the LAW.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Well, I am not one for violence but I am not so sure I am of the mind that the cop was 'so' wrong.

Hear me out. this thug leads police on a wild high speed chase.... jeopardizing many lives in the process. He gets out and runs... and ONLY when he can't get away, he "gives up".... he is certainly not defenseless in the respect I think. Infact, given his behaviour, a reasonable person can't assume anything.

Perhaps I was raised differently. But you don't act the fool, jeopardize lives and obviously a criminal, then cry foul when you get a boot to the head.

Hi fives???? hmmm. C'mon, the high five was given AFTER the dude was handcuffed and the 'chase done'. The high fives wasn't for the boot in the head, but for apprehending the criminal, what is wrong with that? Its like scoring a touchdown... you know what I mean. I think the extreme I take it one way, you perhaps take it the other.... lets meet in the middle.

For what purpose would the cop have for kicking the guy in the head?

He wasn't trying to resist arrest. So, the only reason could be that the cop was pissed off and decided to abuse his position to assault the guy. The cop isn't above the law. In fact, just like the book is thrown at people who kill policemen, likewise the book should be thrown at policemen who abuse their power. Police simply must be held to at least the standard of everyone else, if not higher, because of the power they wield. They exist to protect the populace and to enforce laws. If they're not going to be held to those same laws that they enforce, then they're nothing else but thugs.

 

[Objectivist]

For what purpose would the cop have for kicking the guy in the head?

He wasn't trying to resist arrest. So, the only reason could be that the cop was pissed off and decided to abuse his position to assault the guy. The cop isn't above the law. In fact, just like the book is thrown at people who kill policemen, likewise the book should be thrown at policemen who abuse their power. Police simply must be held to at least the standard of everyone else, if not higher, because of the power they wield. They exist to protect the populace and to enforce laws. If they're not going to be held to those same laws that they enforce, then they're nothing else but thugs.

He was gas on full ahead in the moment when he kicked him in the head. I've seen that drug kick into gear before and it aint pretty. That same emotion comes out in villages where women and children get massacred or raped and tortured.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not a neocon, just an admirer of Machiavelli.

And at the end of it all all, there it is.

A moral compass so completely fucked, that it can never be understood by folks such as yourself, that you will one day find yourself being "eliminated" because your end will justify somebody else's means.

This is the logic that brings the killing field, the gulag and the gas chamber.

Learn it and fight it wherever it rears it's ugly head.

 

[Ninja Homer]

Well, the message is clear... if you decide to run from the police, you just better keep on running and not give up. If you give yourself up, there's a chance you'll get kicked in the head, and you may or may not survive that.

I don't think this is the message police want to send, unless of course they really want people to run from them. If that's the case, they aren't really law enforcement officers, they're sociopaths with badges.

 

[Objectivist]

And for anyone questioning if it really hurt the criminal, take note of his foot turning inward to the centerline of his body when he takes the boot to the head. Pain response.

 

[PaulaGem]

This is how they do it in Denver...

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[Meatwasp]

My Brother in Law was a cop and he told me he saw so many criminals and got under so much stress that he found he was beating up people too. He felt so bad that he quit and joined the fire department. The cop should get fired or quit as he is no use to the department anymore. Some men are weaker than others.

 

[diggronpaul]

It's certainly NOT kicking someone in the frickin' head!! The guy was not resisting. He was flat out on the ground with arms and legs spread eagle.

I'm trying to understand the real nature of the problem here, I'm not attempting to excuse the action. For example, as has been more recently discussed in this thread, was the cop under unbelieveable stress for some reason? Did he just work ten 14-hours shifts in a row? Was one of his buddies just killed in the line of duty by another crazy driver? Is he on meds of some sort? Seems to me that we all want to prevent this behavior. To do this, we must understand its true triggers. Somehow, I don't think this was just about a bad Cop, I think there is more to it. Finding what that is and addressing it where I'm coming from.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I'm trying to understand the real nature of the problem here, I'm not attempting to excuse the action. For example, as has been more recently discussed in this thread, was the cop under unbelieveable stress for some reason? Did he just work ten 14-hours shifts in a row? Was one of his buddies just killed in the line of duty by another crazy driver? Is he on meds of some sort? Seems to me that we all want to prevent this behavior. To do this, we must understand its true triggers. Somehow, I don't think this was just about a bad Cop, I think there is more to it. Finding what that is and addressing it where I'm coming from.

Might be interesting for other cops, but this one needs to go.

 

[angelatc]

I look at it like this. That guy should be thankful it was the cop that kicked him in the head and not one of the people he nearly took out with his shenanigans.

I would imagine he is very glad about it, as is his lawyer. The city has deep pockets.

 

[angelatc]

I was always told that if I use my feet it's a FELONY. I understand the Police Chief said it's under review, as if watching the video wasn't enough to charge the shithead with felony assault. Maybe they should hire a new Chief that understands the LAW.

Actually I respect a boss who will stand up for his employees in tough times. The Chief has to keep the respect of the other thugs who report to him so he has to be rather slow and methodical about his stance here.