Cop Kicks Suspect's Head - High Fives Other Cop

[Objectivist]

Actually I respect a boss who will stand up for his employees in tough times. The Chief has to keep the respect of the other thugs who report to him so he has to be rather slow and methodical about his stance here.

Methodical? Is there any question that kicking someone head is wrong and illegal? There was NO reason for what happened in that video, none at all.

I have the books that cops use during their academy training and I can't find the kick the shit out of their head maneuver anywhere.

 

[BeFranklin]

Suspected Murder

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11799659

This should be its own separate thread. There is good reason to believe the cop may have murdered the man.

This was a murder and a cover up. Pure and simple. We heard and saw the event and will testify in court when it comes to it.

Even a possible witness that posted the above in italics from that newspaper forum that was linked above.

That forum is also filled with some people advocating cop violence, and the cops should do whatever they like, etc. Comments like this is going to
cause widespread violence faster than anything I can think of. In fact, the widespread police brutality is being caused by these advocators.

 

[Met Income]

This is from someone I know (former cop) what say you:

Bottom line, cops don't have the right to mete out punishment, its not their job.

I saw the same thing alot of you did, which apparently, was a cop using unnecessary force on a surrendering perp.

However.... there are several mitigating factors involved here, if you will indulge me. And I do understand the cop-bashing, believe me.

First off, you DO have the right to use physical force to get a guy into custody.

Holding a guy at gunpoint is NOT custody and these mutts know this better than anyone else.

Most gang-bangers KNOW that you cannot shoot them if they are apparently unarmed and not a threat, and they have a sixth sense for weak cops who fail to take control of a perp. immediately.

For instance, it is not unusual for a perp. like this to feign surrender and then quickly assess the situation when three other cops don't immediately come around the corner after this first cop.

Many cops can read these guys minds and body language like a book in those situations and know if this guy requires a non-lethal reminder of whose in charge at that time and that place.( isolated, no other cops there yet and no telling when they will arrive)

If you watched this video, you saw the perp. take quite a circuitous route to where he ended up and I'm sure the cop AND him were surprised to see eachother....and they both knew they were alone.

The cop is full of adrenaline, the perp is full of adrenaline and anything can happen.

Countless cops have been killed in this exact scenario.

Can anyone here handcuff a sweaty, adrenaline primed perp. while holding a their service gun steady, after a long foot pursuit?

Most likely, he puts that gun away, then tries to cuff the perp.

Do you think the perp. is possibly waiting for this moment to use the neat little wrestling tricks he learned in the prison yard during long boring afternoons in the sun? Possibly use the holster grabbing tricks they teach in prison?

The kick, as ugly as it appeared, shows this perp. that this is not a weak, by- the- book cop who will wait patiently for back-up before controlling him physically. He knows, it is over.

This was a calculated risk by the cop in a potentially life and death situation, where he and the perp. know the gun is merely a prop for all intents and purposes at that moment.

Now, when the dust is settled,the Cops powers of articulation will make him or break him.

If the cop comes out and say "I was pissed, he is a perp. and he ran from me"

Then, bye bye badge. See ya! And deservedly so.

The high five? Meh, thats a one for the good guys type of thing, especially when so many of these perps. get away during these ridiculous chases.

That being said, all the other videos out there with the ten cops in a circle around a dude...kicking, swinging night sticks....I make no apologies, they let simple adrenaline and anger take over and shame on the cooler heads who stood by and allowed this...

Its assault, pure and simple.

This is one of the few where I can watch it and possibly understand, though I have have never done that myself.

 

[Danke]

This is from someone I know (former cop) what say you:

Bottom line, cops don't have the right to mete out punishment, its not their job.

I saw the same thing alot of you did, which apparently, was a cop using unnecessary force on a surrendering perp.

However.... there are several mitigating factors involved here, if you will indulge me. And I do understand the cop-bashing, believe me.

First off, you DO have the right to use physical force to get a guy into custody.

Holding a guy at gunpoint is NOT custody and these mutts know this better than anyone else.

Most gang-bangers KNOW that you cannot shoot them if they are apparently unarmed and not a threat, and they have a sixth sense for weak cops who fail to take control of a perp. immediately.

For instance, it is not unusual for a perp. like this to feign surrender and then quickly assess the situation when three other cops don't immediately come around the corner after this first cop.

Many cops can read these guys minds and body language like a book in those situations and know if this guy requires a non-lethal reminder of whose in charge at that time and that place.( isolated, no other cops there yet and no telling when they will arrive)

If you watched this video, you saw the perp. take quite a circuitous route to where he ended up and I'm sure the cop AND him were surprised to see eachother....and they both knew they were alone.

The cop is full of adrenaline, the perp is full of adrenaline and anything can happen.

Countless cops have been killed in this exact scenario.

Can anyone here handcuff a sweaty, adrenaline primed perp. while holding a their service gun steady, after a long foot pursuit?

Most likely, he puts that gun away, then tries to cuff the perp.

Do you think the perp. is possibly waiting for this moment to use the neat little wrestling tricks he learned in the prison yard during long boring afternoons in the sun? Possibly use the holster grabbing tricks they teach in prison?

The kick, as ugly as it appeared, shows this perp. that this is not a weak, by- the- book cop who will wait patiently for back-up before controlling him physically. He knows, it is over.

This was a calculated risk by the cop in a potentially life and death situation, where he and the perp. know the gun is merely a prop for all intents and purposes at that moment.

Now, when the dust is settled,the Cops powers of articulation will make him or break him.

If the cop comes out and say "I was pissed, he is a perp. and he ran from me"

Then, bye bye badge. See ya! And deservedly so.

The high five? Meh, thats a one for the good guys type of thing, especially when so many of these perps. get away during these ridiculous chases.

That being said, all the other videos out there with the ten cops in a circle around a dude...kicking, swinging night sticks....I make no apologies, they let simple adrenaline and anger take over and shame on the cooler heads who stood by and allowed this...

Its assault, pure and simple.

This is one of the few where I can watch it and possibly understand, though I have have never done that myself.

Interesting. I didn't watch the video, but I can understand the cop's prospective here.

 

[angelatc]

Interesting. I didn't watch the video, but I can understand the cop's prospective here.

Good! Then you'll understand that when they start gathering us up and sending us to detention centers because something bad might happen if they don't.

Now, when the dust is settled,the Cops powers of articulation will make him or break him. If the cop comes out and say "I was pissed, he is a perp. and he ran from me" Then, bye bye badge. See ya! And deservedly so.

It's all in how they sell it.