Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

[tonesforjonesbones]

well I like him..I do agree with one thing..he has that group Freedom Force International...which is supposed to be an activist gr;oup...but it doens't seem like they DO an;ything. I have learned not to put all my eggs in one basket..I just take the information in. I go out and get active on my own and find ways. We just got our local patriot group to agree to be more active. They started out good and some of the business men didn't want to step out..well..what's the sense in having a group if you don't STEP OUT..and do something? We must do it. TOnes

 

[FrankRep]

But "G" is!

It's a network, a system, an array of actors and movements and groups.... all to contain your "thinking." And it's working quite well.

Cognitive Dissonance is your biggest enemy right now.

Again, lets see some proof that G. Edward Griffin is controlled opposition or an insider.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

"People that can't think dialectically aren't really
human beings at all, they just look like human beings"​

Aristotle


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1957357&postcount=1​

 

[Deborah K]

Again, lets see some proof that G. Edward Griffin is controlled opposition or an insider.

He won't be able to. Ed has been exposing the truth for more than 40 years. He is one of the most knowledgable and classiest men I've ever known. I had the distinct pleasure of working with him during the revolution march and got to know him a little bit afterward. He is in no way controlled opposition. Anyone who thinks that hasn't done their due diligence. You can't be controlled opposition while you're exposing the intentions of tptb:

The Chasm: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf

Days of Infamy: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling3.pdf

The War on Terrorism: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf

 

[InterestedParticipant]

He won't be able to. Ed has been exposing the truth for more than 40 years. He is one of the most knowledgable and classiest men I've ever known. I had the distinct pleasure of working with him during the revolution march and got to know him a little bit afterward. He is in no way controlled opposition. Anyone who thinks that hasn't done their due diligence. You can't be controlled opposition while you're exposing the intentions of tptb:

The techniques he uses, amongst many, are called containment and diversion, and they are way beyond your ability to observe. So, yeah, I would expect that 99.9999% here would be totally bought-in to his "program." These guys are professionally trained... do you really think you'd ever be able to figure it out on your own?

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

 

[Deborah K]

The techniques he uses, amongst many, are called containment and diversion, and they are way beyond your ability to observe. So, yeah, I would expect that 99.9999% here would be totally bought-in to his "program." These guys are professionally trained... do you really think you'd ever be able to figure it out on your own?

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

Why are you here, in this forum, if you are so superior to all of us brain-washed koolaid drinkers? Why would you waste your time?

 

[FrankRep]

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

Thankfully G. Edward Griffin did interview Norman Dodd. Lets watch it.

The Hidden Agenda - Merging America Into World Government


The major tax-exempt foundations, since at least 1945, have been operating to promote an agenda that has little to do with charity, good works, or philanthropy. The real objectives include the creation of a world-wide collectivist state which is to be ruled from behind the scenes by those same interests which control the foundations. This story is told by Norman Dodd who, in 1954, was the staff director of the Congressional Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations, known as the Reece Committee, in recognition of its Chairman, Congressman Carroll Reece. Mr. Dodd speaks from experience with the leaders of the great foundations of that period, some of whom were amazingly frank about their goals. This interview, conducted by G. Edward Griffin, has captured a rare piece of history and illustrates the continuity between the past and present drive for a "New World Order.

 

[Deborah K]

The techniques he uses, amongst many, are called containment and diversion, and they are way beyond your ability to observe. So, yeah, I would expect that 99.9999% here would be totally bought-in to his "program." These guys are professionally trained... do you really think you'd ever be able to figure it out on your own?

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

I'm going to send him an email as per your request, but my guess would be that he couldn't get anyone to air it. I've tried like hell to get him on Glenn Beck, with the help of 'Restore the Republic', to no avail. He's considered fringe, so how the hell can he also be considered controlled opposition?

Btw, what was Ed's so called excuse for sitting on the interview that you deem to be so lame?

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Why are you here, in this forum, if you are so superior to all of us brain-washed koolaid drinkers? Why would you waste your time?

So let me see if I can interpret this post. Basically what you are saying is that you have a comfortable paradigm which includes some actors and organizations who you believe are working in your interest. I would say that you perceive that there are many others here who share your same paradigm and to that effect you believe you have a make-shift group, or consensus on who to trust and believe, what to trust and believe, and who NOT to trust.

Then, someone comes along, a libertarian, and begins to question that paradigm, begins to bring up examples where various operators and organizations, within your paradigm, employ techniques that are typical of establishment actors.

Instead of engaging in self-evaluation and additional research, as suggested by the paradigm-breaker, you question their reason for being here, as if "here" is defined by the paradigm that you live in and only discussions that fit your paradigm may take place.

I suggest taking some time and following the research leads that I have provided, learn about the techniques that are used, ask meaningful questions that are designed to learn rather than designed to "trap" the messenger.

As far as "G" is concerned, you definitely won't get a straight answer, and you certainly won't be given any meaningful queues without being there in person to watch the biological response and get it on camera.

The bottom line is that the paradigm that you live-in will get us no where, as evidenced by history. The only way to break our enslavement is to break this manufactured reality, and that is not given to you on a silver platter by book writers and "alternative" media, you have to work for that on your own using what Paulo Freire calls "Conscientization"... this is the goal that you must strive for as it will allow you to see all without input from any external source.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

I'm going to send him an email as per your request, but my guess would be that he couldn't get anyone to air it. I've tried like hell to get him on Glenn Beck, with the help of 'Restore the Republic', to no avail. He's considered fringe, so how the hell can he also be considered controlled opposition?

Btw, what was Ed's so called excuse for sitting on the interview that you deem to be so lame?

Containment !!!

P.S. I never called the interview "lame," those are your words not mine. My statements have all been around the 20year delay of the interview's release.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Thankfully G. Edward Griffin did interview Norman Dodd. Lets watch it.

The major tax-exempt foundations, since at least 1945, have been operating to promote an agenda that has little to do with charity, good works, or philanthropy. The real objectives include the creation of a world-wide collectivist state which is to be ruled from behind the scenes by those same interests which control the foundations. This story is told by Norman Dodd who, in 1954, was the staff director of the Congressional Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations, known as the Reece Committee, in recognition of its Chairman, Congressman Carroll Reece. Mr. Dodd speaks from experience with the leaders of the great foundations of that period, some of whom were amazingly frank about their goals. This interview, conducted by G. Edward Griffin, has captured a rare piece of history and illustrates the continuity between the past and present drive for a "New World Order.

You miss some of the most important elements of the interview, which if released shortly after it was conducted could have made a significant difference in disruption the establishment's plans...

Probably the one key historical event which proves without a doubt the conspiratorial goal of the "traitors" to merge our country into an unconstitutional international socialist system (called for by Lenin and Stalin, with the financial backing of Wall Street, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and many multinational corporations) was the meeting Norman Dodd had with Rowan Gaither, the President of the Ford Foundation during Mr. Dodd's tenure as the Research Director for the Reece Committee in 1953. This Congressional committee was established to investigate the activities of the left-leaning foundations.

http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt9.htm


"Mr. Dodd, we have asked you to come up here today because we thought that, possibly, off the record, you would tell us why the Congress is interested in the activities of foundations such as ourselves.

Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here, have had experience either with the OSS during the war, or with European economic administration after the war. We have had experience operating under directives. The directives emanate, and did emanate, from the White House. Now, we still operate under just such directives. Would you like to know what the substance of these directives is?

Mr. Dodd, we are here to operate in response to similar directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States, that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."

-Alan Gaither, President of the Ford Foundation
http://supremelaw.org/authors/dodd/interview.htm

 

[FrankRep]

Containment !!!

P.S. I never called the interview "lame," those are your words not mine. My statements have all been around the 20year delay of the interview's release.

Why did he record it in the first place?

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Why did he record it in the first place?

To keep Dodd from being interviewed by an "unauthorized" source who would have released this information in a timely way. It's an intervention in order to control the information. This is a common technique.

Look, it's about Total Information Dominance (look up this concept). TID means controlling ALL information, even opposition information. So, you can bury it, or rewrite history (his-story), or mix it with some false information to create confusion, etc.

Why did Walter Chronkite recently receive the World Federation Association award (a globalist organization)? and why in his acceptance speech did he say come hell or highwater he wanted world government?

 

[Deborah K]

By the way, the next time you talk to "G", ask him why he sat on the Norman Dodd video taped interviews for 20 years because his public excuse about this is pathetic.

Here's your answer:

G. Edward Griffin to me
show details 1:06 PM (51 minutes ago) Reply

The truth is that there was no general interest in this interview until several years after I recorded it. Also, it costs money to edit and release a video, even a simple one like that one. Money has always been tight at American Media, but it was particularly so during those early days. If this guy thinks I “sat” on the interview, I wonder why he thinks I recorded it in the first place and why I released it at all. I could have just skipped it in the beginning or, having recorded it, I could have buried it completely, if that was my mission. This person makes no sense at all, and I am amazed that anyone pays attention to him.

You may post this if you wish.

Ed Griffin

 

[Deborah K]

To keep Dodd from being interviewed by an "unauthorized" source who would have released this information in a timely way. It's an intervention in order to control the information. This is a common technique.

Look, it's about Total Information Dominance (look up this concept). TID means controlling ALL information, even opposition information. So, you can bury it, or rewrite history (his-story), or mix it with some false information to create confusion, etc.

Why did Walter Chronkite recently receive the World Federation Association award (a globalist organization)? and why in his acceptance speech did he say come hell or highwater he wanted world government?

This is ridiculous. First, you're whining because he supposedly "sat" on it. Now, your story is that he did the interview in order to control the information. Then why "sit" on it???? You can't have it both ways.

 

[Deborah K]

So let me see if I can interpret this post. Basically what you are saying is that you have a comfortable paradigm which includes some actors and organizations who you believe are working in your interest. I would say that you perceive that there are many others here who share your same paradigm and to that effect you believe you have a make-shift group, or consensus on who to trust and believe, what to trust and believe, and who NOT to trust.

Then, someone comes along, a libertarian, and begins to question that paradigm, begins to bring up examples where various operators and organizations, within your paradigm, employ techniques that are typical of establishment actors.

Instead of engaging in self-evaluation and additional research, as suggested by the paradigm-breaker, you question their reason for being here, as if "here" is defined by the paradigm that you live in and only discussions that fit your paradigm may take place.

I suggest taking some time and following the research leads that I have provided, learn about the techniques that are used, ask meaningful questions that are designed to learn rather than designed to "trap" the messenger.

As far as "G" is concerned, you definitely won't get a straight answer, and you certainly won't be given any meaningful queues without being there in person to watch the biological response and get it on camera.

The bottom line is that the paradigm that you live-in will get us no where, as evidenced by history. The only way to break our enslavement is to break this manufactured reality, and that is not given to you on a silver platter by book writers and "alternative" media, you have to work for that on your own using what Paulo Freire calls "Conscientization"... this is the goal that you must strive for as it will allow you to see all without input from any external source.

If your goal is to be the savior of the sheeple in this and other forums, perhaps you should start your quest by providing evidence of the accusations that you are flailing against Ed Griffin - for starters. You can't go around making wild accusations about people- claiming they are "controlled opposition" without some evidence. And sending us to research your claims is lazy and disingenuous. That's like a prosecuter claiming a man is guilty and expecting the man or the jury to find the evidence to prove it.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Here's your answer:

The truth is that there was no general interest in this interview until several years after I recorded it. Also, it costs money to edit and release a video, even a simple one like that one. Money has always been tight at American Media, but it was particularly so during those early days. If this guy thinks I “sat” on the interview, I wonder why he thinks I recorded it in the first place and why I released it at all. I could have just skipped it in the beginning or, having recorded it, I could have buried it completely, if that was my mission. This person makes no sense at all, and I am amazed that anyone pays attention to him.

I addressed G's points in an earlier reply, anticipating what he would say.

To keep Dodd from being interviewed by an "unauthorized" source who would have released this information in a timely way. It's an intervention in order to control the information. This is a common technique.

Look, it's about Total Information Dominance (look up this concept). TID means controlling ALL information, even opposition information. So, you can bury it, or rewrite history (his-story), or mix it with some false information to create confusion, etc.

He did the interview and sat on it to keep the information contained for 20 years. And to say there was no interest was BS, a little look around and he would have found Charlotte Iserbyt who was exposing similar information in her book Dumbing Us Down, and this interview would have strengthened her work tremendously.

Anyway, this is just one datapoint, one that I am able to share because it's so damn obvious.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

This is ridiculous. First, you're whining because he supposedly "sat" on it. Now, your story is that he did the interview in order to control the information. Then why "sit" on it???? You can't have it both ways.

Sitting on it means to control it.

Please, if you want to keep your head in the sand, you are entitled to do so, but at least try to keep the conversation focused on issues that are somewhat relevant.

 

[Deborah K]

I addressed G's points in an earlier reply, anticipating what he would say.


He did the interview and sat on it to keep the information contained for 20 years. And to say there was no interest was BS, a little look around and he would have found Charlotte Iserbyt who was exposing similar information in her book Dumbing Us Down, and this interview would have strengthened her work tremendously.

Anyway, this is just one datapoint, one that I am able to share because it's so damn obvious.

And I addressed your response. You can't have it both ways. Why, on the one hand, would you complain about his "sitting" on the interview, then on the other, claim that he did the interview to control the information? If his goal was to control the information, then why sit on the interview?

Then, you assume that Griffin somehow had the power to keep Dodd from being interviewed by anyone else. Give me a break.

 

[Deborah K]

Sitting on it means to control it.

Please, if you want to keep your head in the sand, you are entitled to do so, but at least try to keep the conversation focused on issues that are somewhat relevant.

Then why interview him at all? You're going around in circles because you're cornered.