Controlled Opposition - A must read for everyone in the liberty movement

[tonesforjonesbones]

I bumped the thread because I thought it was important...why are YOU coming to a thread you obviously have no interest in? Just to rock the boat? tones

 

[andrewh817]

type in "Why it's Hard to take Alex Jones Seriously" on Youtube

Good intentions do not always produce good results.......... but at least Alex Jones always says to not take his word for it and research the issues yourself.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

This could be the most ironic thread ever posted on RPF, because JBS was setup as controlled opposition.

If I had the money, I'd offer $10K to anyone who could prove that anyone in the extended media or in the public eye is NOT controlled. I haven't found one yet, and I don't care what names or organizations you bring up. They all are!

The public is on its own, and the sooner they realize it the better off we'll be.

 

[FrankRep]

This could be the most ironic thread ever posted on RPF, because JBS was setup as controlled opposition.

Strong words. Since I am a JBS member, show me how the JBS is controlled opposition.

 

[Danke]

Strong words. Since I am a JBS member, show me how the JBS is controlled opposition.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Strong words. Since I am a JBS member, show me how the JBS is controlled opposition.

I can't break through the cognitive dissonance for you, you must do it yourself. You will simply fight anything I say, that's what always happens.

Right now, your thoughts regarding the scope of the conspiracy are limited, which JBS helps to perpetuate through containment of thought. Bottom line, they are just another organization offering a tailored product to yet another target market.

Think really big picture. Think dialectics. Think about the need to provide a fiat-democracy to society. When you can start to view the world in these terms, you will find the data points to support your vision. Until then, you won't be able to see it no matter what I or anyone else says.

 

[Sandman33]

Beck is two faced tones. I really think he hates our guts. The same day after he had RP on his show and was nice, he went on his friends show saying how much of a whackjob he and all his supporters are. If and when there is a terrorist attack like 911 and say this person is associated with campaign for liberty or RP, etc, he will be the first one calling for RP supporters arrest and detainment. He doesn't respect most of the constitution, like the 4th amendment, habeus corpus, etc, and he can't be trusted in a crisis. He initially supported the bailouts. Don't forget that. He is a fraud.

Agreed...well put.

 

[FrankRep]

I can't break through the cognitive dissonance for you, you must do it yourself. You will simply fight anything I say, that's what always happens.

Right now, your thoughts regarding the scope of the conspiracy are limited, which JBS helps to perpetuate through containment of thought. Bottom line, they are just another organization offering a tailored product to yet another target market.

Think really big picture. Think dialectics. Think about the need to provide a fiat-democracy to society. When you can start to view the world in these terms, you will find the data points to support your vision. Until then, you won't be able to see it no matter what I or anyone else says.

You better do some research on the JBS before you start attacking us.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

You better do some research on the JBS before you start attacking us.

Give me a freaking break!

I'm so tired of hearing this kinda shit from every person who is a member of some organization or is supporting the latest superstar activist. Falling for the same traps over and over and over again.

Yeah, everything is a goddamn Communist or Marxist conspiracy. But they never ever talk about who is behind them except to give you the Illuminati buzzword.

Why exactly do you think organizations are created?

Anyway, nothing I can do to bring your head out of this sandpit. You'll fight everyone so you can stay in this cave. It's just the way the psychology works.

Watch, I guarantee that JBS will be setup to be another target group soon. Just like the von Brunn OP targets "911 Truthers" and "Conspiracy Theorists" and "Anti Semites"... it won't be too long before they assemble an OP for a crazy JBS member to do something awful, then your entire "group" will be targeted. What a nice setup. And you'll fall for it every freaking time.

 

[FrankRep]

Give me a freaking break!Yeah, everything is a goddamn Communist or Marxist conspiracy. But they never ever talk about who is behind them except to give you the Illuminati buzzword.

You haven't done your research. Our major enemy, so to speak, is the Council on Foreign Relations. They have a major influence over shaping foreign policy and over the election process.

You should learn about them.

http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/shadows-of-power.html

 

[InterestedParticipant]

You haven't done your research. Our major enemy, so to speak, is the Council on Foreign Relations. They have a major influence over shaping foreign policy and over the election process.

You should learn about them.

http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/shadows-of-power.html

CFR is just one small branch of a much bigger picture. The technique JBS is using is called "clipping" or "cropping" where they only show you small parts of the big picture and frame everything accordingly, effectively putting their members in a thought bubble.

 

[FrankRep]

CFR is just one small branch of a much bigger picture. The technique JBS is using is called "clipping" or "cropping" where they only show you small parts of the big picture and frame everything accordingly, effectively putting their members in a thought bubble.

Small branch of a Global Picture, you mean. We know its an International Conspiracy for Global government.

Show us the "big picture" then.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Personally, I like the JBS and have for years; I think there are a lot of true blue patriots in that organization. That said, I don't trust ANY organization or ANY person 100 percent. I agree with InterestedParticipant that most groups are infiltrated that were ever any good. I think a lot of us would be shocked at the extent of the infiltration.

That said, if we stick to principles rather than to people or organizations, we shouldn't often be fooled. And if an organization offers some good stuff and tools that we can use to accomplish good things, well then, I'm going to take advantage of them.

Keep in mind, that it's extremely difficult to accomplish much of anything if we do not work together in some manner for specific objectives and goals.

 

[FrankRep]

Personally, I like the JBS and have for years; I think there are a lot of true blue patriots in that organization. That said, I don't trust ANY organization or ANY person 100 percent. I agree with InterestedParticipant that most groups are infiltrated that were ever any good. I think a lot of us would be shocked at the extent of the infiltration.

I would agree. Can't trust any organization 100%.

 

[anaconda]

If I had the money, I'd offer $10K to anyone who could prove that anyone in the extended media or in the public eye is NOT controlled

Are you therefore suspicious of Ron Paul, for example?

 

[apropos]

CFR is just one small branch of a much bigger picture. The technique JBS is using is called "clipping" or "cropping" where they only show you small parts of the big picture and frame everything accordingly, effectively putting their members in a thought bubble.

I'm not a member of any organization, so I don't have any particular loyalties to this or that group. If you claim to have genuine insight into the Big Picture, let's hear about it.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Personally, I like the JBS and have for years; I think there are a lot of true blue patriots in that organization. That said, I don't trust ANY organization or ANY person 100 percent. I agree with InterestedParticipant that most groups are infiltrated that were ever any good. I think a lot of us would be shocked at the extent of the infiltration.

That said, if we stick to principles rather than to people or organizations, we shouldn't often be fooled. And if an organization offers some good stuff and tools that we can use to accomplish good things, well then, I'm going to take advantage of them.


Keep in mind, that it's extremely difficult to accomplish much of anything if we do not work together in some manner for specific objectives and goals.

• "I think there are a lot of true blue patriots in that organization."
  
  Precisely why these organizations are created, so as to attract these types so they can be manipulated and controlled and identified/attacked, if necessary.
  
  
• "I agree with InterestedParticipant that most groups are infiltrated that were ever any good."
  
  It's beyond "infiltration"... we're talking establishing and marking groups and entire movement. Little is infiltrated because that would presuppose that alternate interests were successfully able to start such groups.
  
  
• "if we stick to principles rather than to people or organizations, we shouldn't often be fooled."
  
  Bullshit. People have no freaking idea what's accurate or not and live in a world where they are fooled 24/7. Some are just fooled with different trickery than others.
  
  
• it's extremely difficult to accomplish much of anything if we do not work together in some manner for specific objectives and goals"
  
  All groups and movements are manipulated and controlled. Only way to do this is through leaderless individuals all operating in accordance with the laws of the Kingdom.

Small branch of a Global Picture, you mean. We know its an International Conspiracy for Global government.

Show us the "big picture" then.

There are some things you need to figure out for yourself for them to be believed and accepted (ie. to break through your own cognitive dissonance). No one can "show" you this. You need to start questions ALL of your assumptions and ALL of the limits to your thinking. The revelations will come quickly once you break through these chains.

I'm not a member of any organization, so I don't have any particular loyalties to this or that group. If you claim to have genuine insight into the Big Picture, let's hear about it.

Do you subscribe to any particular memes (ie "Slogans") that are promulgated by the patriot movement, like "911 was an inside job"? If so, you will be targeted.

It's about understanding the system in its entirety, not about grasping a handful of facts or slogans psychically driven into our consciousness by controlled actors. Can you start to revisit all major events in history and see how they all fit together? Can you see that the public is nothing more than an audience to ALL that occurs, and that ALL actions are perpetrated by the same source, whether it appears to be establishment or opposition? Watch this video.

YouTube - Assassination of Beal

All the audience (ie public) is expected to do is watch and applaud on
queue. That's it! All the elements of the 'show' (actors et. al.) is left up to
the controllers. Public participation is not a variable in the equation.

Everything freaking thing is manufactured for you. When you understand that, you will begin to see things as they really are and will be able to analyze organizations, individuals and "events" on your own.

 

[FrankRep]

Small branch of a Global Picture, you mean. We know its an International Conspiracy for Global government.

Show us the "big picture" then.

There are some things you need to figure out for yourself for them to be believed and accepted (ie. to break through your own cognitive dissonance). No one can "show" you this. You need to start questions ALL of your assumptions and ALL of the limits to your thinking. The revelations will come quickly once you break through these chains.

What is the Matrix?

I'm listening. How is the John Birch Society Controlled Opposition and what is the truth about Global Government?

 

[InterestedParticipant]

What is the Matrix?

I'm listening. How is the John Birch Society Controlled Opposition and what is the truth about Global Government?

JBS is controlled because they contain their members thinking (as described in quoted post below), they can persuade their members thinking (hence, set traps on the other side of the dialectic), and they provide a target group that can be leveraged by the establishment for any purpose.

CFR is just one small branch of a much bigger picture. The technique JBS is using is called "clipping" or "cropping" where they only show you small parts of the big picture and frame everything accordingly, effectively putting their members in a thought bubble.

In terms of next steps, find out who started CFR, where it originated from. Who is behind it.

Then, maybe look into 4GW (4th Generational Warfare) and see who is behind that and what purpose it will serve (ie. what is the dialectic it creates and who are the primary actors on each side of that dialectic).

Look into "events" that have occurred over the last 40 years and see how intelligence agencies fit into the picture: Jonestown; Oklahoma City, Columbine, Virginia Tech, 911, Katrina, Lennon's shooting, Reagan's shooting.... the list goes on and on and on. Look for patterns.

Think about all of these observations in terms of dialectics, which are leverage to create a given end. Think about the same people controlling all sides of the dialectic, and why they would want to do this, and what were the outcomes they sought to achieve.

You need to break free from herd thinking, which you have been programmed to do. As I've stated before, no one can do that for you, and remaining in a group is going to do nothing but keep you locked into group think. Only way to be an individual is on your own.

On Edit: Here's a thought, the entire series of the Prisoner TV Show are now online and can be watched for free. Invest some time and see if you can understand the significance of that series and #6's efforts to be "unmutual". There is much to be learned in this series, and this can help one see the World (ie villiage) as it really is.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner-1960s-series/

 

[FrankRep]

JBS is controlled because they contain their members thinking (as described in quoted post below), they can persuade their members thinking (hence, set traps on the other side of the dialectic), and they provide a target group that can be leveraged by the establishment for any purpose.

By your reasoning, Ron Paul must also fit into the Hegelian Dialectics as well.

Give me some real facts.