Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, Tea Party Alliance - TRUE Third Party Initiative

[TCE]

There are two possibly viable solutions I see:

1. Libertarian and Constitution Party combine. The Green Party along with all of the other minor ones will probably not agree to combine, but the CP and LP have enough in common that they have no excuse not to join forces. The abortion issue alone, something that will realistically never be important since a Constitutional Amendment will never pass, should not be the deal-breaker. Get all of these people together, and start hammering out fund-raising opportunities and a plan.

2. Create another Free State Project. One party should get as many party members to move to a particular state and copy the FSP. They could probably become a presence in a small state, such as Montana, with 5,000 people or so. The alternative would be to solely focus on one state and go all-in on that one state for each election. Ignore the hopeless ones, such as California, Illinois, and New York, and focus on the smaller states where an advertising dollar stretches further.

Either way, the Third Parties need to look themselves in the mirror and realize some kind of seismic change needs to occur for them to be relevant.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

I like the idea, odds are long but I like it. Wouldnt happen overnight so if your in for the long haul.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Third parties are relevant. They have seeded, over decades, the base of pro-liberty activists who made up the backbone of the Ron Paul movement that emerged in 2007-8, and now. They are the ones who remained firm and true to libertarian and constitutional principle when other movements were co-opted by establishment controlled GOP and Democratic parties. The third party ideological systems vet the real-deal liberty people whom we can trust, if ever elected, to legislate as they campaign--as opposed to the initial legislative record of the Tea party candidates so far elected, of whom 90% vote EXACTLY like hack Republicans (more Fed, more war, more Patriot act, etc).

In a country where 95% of districts at all levels are structured to ensure a Democrat or Republican hack gets elected, third parties are shut out before they even try. It's mainly not their fault they are structurally boxed out of having a winning vote, whereas the dismal performance of the GOP IN office IS their fault. How's the Republican record of decades of endless failure working for you? I'll compare the 40 years of electoral "irrelevance" of the LP anytime, against the 80+ years of legislative irrelevance of the GOP in reversing any aspect of the welfare-warfare state. Their total lack of progress with changing anything, makes any talk of getting elected in order to be "relevant" a shopworn sham.

 

[Badger Paul]

Their activists need to helping Ron Paul if they want to make a difference.

 

[speciallyblend]

Their activists need to helping Ron Paul if they want to make a difference.

so when the gop alienates ron paul in 2012 again and again. We should just say we made a difference and call it a day! and wait till next time.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

In the 2008 Presidential general election, the Libertarian and Constitution parties' nominees combined for 0.55% of the popular vote. So they would appear to be insignificant.

Unless Ron Paul was their nominee....






Bumping this thread cuz it seems relevant again.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Bump

 

[FrankRep]

I still support this idea.

 

[presence]

I don't necessarily agree with alliance amongst the parties to get their platforms streamlined, but I do agree with alliances to change the legal structure, creating a more even playing field and 3rd party accessibility. For that matter, the Leftist Green Party and the Reform Party need to be invited to the alliance as well.

 

[FrankRep]

For that matter, the Leftist Green Party and the Reform Party need to be invited to the alliance as well.

The Green Party rejects limited government and the Constitution. I'll have to reject the Green Party.

 

[presence]

The Green Party rejects limited government and the Constitution. I'll have to reject the Green Party.

Don't bite off your nose to spite your face; I can agree I don't support their politics, but I still support their right to be recognized, debate, appear on ballots, etc.

 

[FrankRep]

Don't bite off your nose to spite your face; I can agree I don't support their politics, but I still support their right to be recognized, debate, appear on ballots, etc.

I want a consolidated third party consisting of the Constitution, Libertarian, and Tea Party.

A real third party.

 

[TomtheTinker]

Such a party would simply take away votes from the Republican Party. They still wouldn't ever win anything.

I know...because its our soul purpose on earth to make sure the R party remains viable...or not

The reason it wont ever happen has to do with egos within the 3 camps and each having their own agendas ghat have little to do with winning elections.

 

[presence]

I guess we have different goals. I'd rather see a lowered bar to get well organized parties, or individuals onto national ballots. There is no reason why in a free country we should not have all of the above parties, plus people like Ron Paul, who clearly have national support, listed on the ballot in all 50 states. I'd rather see a 100 party system than one more philosophically compromised party added to our 2 party system.